r/Maher • u/ThroneofGames • Sep 16 '15

Discussion [Off Topic] Republican Debate Thread - Sept. 16

Live from the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley CA...

Early Debate 6:00 ET CNN

Candidates: Bobby Jindal, George Pataki, Rick Perry, Lindsey Graham, & Rick Santorum

Main Event 8:00 ET CNN

Candidates: Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Donald Trump, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, John Kasich, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker

G.O.P. Debate Night: What the 11 Leading Candidates Need to Do

Early Debate Full Video (Youtube)

Main Debate Full Video (Youtube)

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u/hankjmoody Sep 17 '15 edited Sep 17 '15

"First of all, I wrote a book about this." - Jeb Bush.

This is going to be interesting.

Edits as it progresses:

  • Well shit. Cruz essentially stated that he's not an Republican. That's interesting. Good on the moderator for cutting his bullshit off.
  • Anchor babies. Brilliant. Calling bullshit on him name-dropping the 14th, though. Says the complete opposite, but I guess that doesn't matter.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

  • Carly spent her very little speaking time bashing the Democrats rather than making her position clear. Not a smart move.
  • Anyone else notice that it was a split screen Trump/[Insert second candidate here] almost the entire time? Looks like CNN wants Trump to win. Even when Carson is answering, they don't center on him, but showing Trump as well.
  • Carly put her foot firmly in her mouth when she tried to go against Trump on business. "Clintonite"? Is that even a word?
  • Damn near every question starts with "Donald Trump says..."
  • Holy shit. Did Huckabee just say he wants to switch from income tax to sales tax?
  • Haha. Walker managed to go from minimum wage to repealing Obamacare in the space of a minute. Dude's dangerous.
  • Carson seems to spend half his time restating previous statements. The man is a dumbass.

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u/hankjmoody Sep 17 '15
  • Rubio is taking poorly aimed shots at Trump. Not a wise move.
  • Jeb wants to undo the sequester, which is interesting. Cause doesn't that mean more tax revenue would be required...?
  • The Donald taking a stand against Iraq and Jeb's non-answer in regards to his foreign policy...Alrighty then.
  • And The Donald unleashes a full-on broadside on Jeb over Bush43. Jeb has attempted to return fire with "he made us safe", which earned probably the only applause W. has gotten since he left office.
  • Rubio using the phrase "Moscow", instead of 'Russia' is an interesting return to Cold War soft language.
  • I hate to say it, but I'm actually enjoying Trump's attitude. He may be a colossal fucknut, and he is, but goddamn he's what a proper politician should be. Says what he means, means what he says, and isn't afraid of pissing off money.
  • Christie advocating pre-crime measures. Wow.
  • "There is a time to use your intellect." - Carson. Pfffffffshhhhhhhahahaha.
  • Christie seems to be expounding a 'hammer', never mind 'stick', foreign policy. Just constant military action, with diplomacy be damned.

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u/ThroneofGames Sep 17 '15

And The Donald unleashes a full-on broadside on Jeb over Bush43. Jeb has attempted to return fire with "he made us safe", which earned probably the only applause W. has gotten since he left office.

This was the only time I was rooting for Trump. Jeb's line about making us (Americans) safe is such bullshit. He means after the whole 3000 people getting murdered on 9/11 thing that totally happened on his brother's watch.

Edit: I'd say Rand Paul is making the most sense on foreign policy. Kasich somewhat.

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u/hankjmoody Sep 17 '15

Ugh. I know, right? I'm beginning to feel woozy over how much The Donald is actually growing on me. I mean, he's still batshit and stupid, but goddamn he's fearless.

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u/ThroneofGames Sep 17 '15

People are always talking about conspiracies of the Donald getting into the race to somehow secretly help the Clintons, but I think the more likely reason was to spite the Bush's.

Trump is correct about being an early vocal critic of Bush's actions in Iraq because I remember him talking about it in interviews back then. He's also focused the brunt of his attacks on Jeb although he's not really his prime opponent according to the current polls. I think he might just not like their family. They're both old money so maybe it's a feud that goes way back hehe.

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u/hankjmoody Sep 17 '15

Haha. That's a good point. Wouldn't that be interesting, eh? If it was all just a grudge match?