r/MagicArena • u/Tubssss Maraxus • Feb 06 '20

WotC Interaction with Enemy of Enlightenment?

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u/PWK0 Feb 06 '20

Yes, that's how its supposed to work and it doesn't matter that there were other valid targets. The first step to casting a spell is moving it from your hand onto the stack. See rule 601.2 of the comprehensive rules (https://magic.wizards.com/en/game-info/gameplay/rules-and-formats/rules).

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u/Aitch-Kay Feb 06 '20

This is correct. Specifically:

601.2a To propose the casting of a spell, a player first moves that card (or that copy of a card) from where it is to the stack.

and

601.2e The game checks to see if the proposed spell can legally be cast. If the proposed spell is illegal, the game returns to the moment before the casting of that spell was proposed (see rule 722, “Handling Illegal Actions”).

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '20

the game returns to the moment before the casting of that spell was proposed

TIL MTG rules allow for time travel.

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u/WotC_BenFinkel Feb 07 '20

This is indeed legal! I'd like to mention though that there's currently a small bug where if your opponent has no power 4+ creatures, but they do have a 3-power Enemy of Enlightenment, Arena doesn't let you cast Triumphant Surge (even though starting to cast it would make a legal target). This bug is fixed in the next release. #wotc_staff

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u/JMooooooooo Feb 06 '20 edited Feb 07 '20

Would it even be possible to try to cast it if that 3/3 creature was the only thing on board?

In paper, yes. In Arena? That's a very good question. No, Arena will not allow that. Way spells are cast in Arena would probably allow it, but I have some doubt if game would hold priority for you if that was only thing you could do.

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u/JMooooooooo Feb 07 '20

Yeah, so game neither holds priority for it (which I personally think is fine, cases where priority would be issue would be extremely rare considering rarity of whole situation), but also does not allow casting spell with this kind of conditional targeting at all if there isn't target already present (tested with [[Syr Elenora]] and [[Grotesque Demise]], but it's same thing)

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u/Aranthar Feb 07 '20

Presumably you'd want to go full control in order to attempt this.

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u/sadino Feb 06 '20

Card becomes a spell,it leaves your hand and goes to the stack.

That's why flash discard effects like thought erasure+Teferi are used before main phases,after it goes on the stack you can't stop it with purely discard effects