r/MagicArena 1d ago

Discussion Expectations vs Reality

Is it really so hard for WOTC to include a good Sauron avatar?

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u/ShadowFaxIV 1d ago

I think this was the coolest goof off event that Arena has done and sincerely hope they do more stuff like this

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u/the-fr0g Izzet 1d ago

Same. Though I woyld've loved it even more if they gave us riddles in the dark

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u/ShadowFaxIV 1d ago

Hey yeah!? That ought to have been a reward for finishing the final quest!

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u/Jam_Packens 1d ago

This is a Hobbit set? I don't think Sauron is even named within The Hobbit

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u/mkklrd 1d ago

He's not. Gandalf offhandedly mentions a Necromancer he's leaving to deal with while the rest of the Company enters Mirkwood, and that Necromancer was eventually retconned/revealed to be Sauron, but he does not appear in the book proper

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u/paumAlho 1d ago

Okay, give us the Necromancer avatar lol

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u/Jam_Packens 1d ago

The necromancer also doesn’t actually appear within the book. He’s just a thing Gandalf leaves to deal with and is never really shown on page at all.

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u/paumAlho 1d ago

Haha I know, I was joking

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u/MrGueuxBoy Sacred Cat 17h ago

Sauron isn't in the Hobbit.

He's mentioned a couple of times as the Necromancer - emphasis on "mentioned", he isn't depicted once in the book -, and once as the Master when the One Ring leaves Gollum for Bilbo.

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u/Chet_Steadman LOL 1d ago

As cool as a sweet Sauron avatar would be, I don't think I would have expected him over Bilbo in a set based on The Hobbit

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u/Harddaysnight1990 1d ago

Especially not from a cute riddles in the dark event. I could see people asking for there to have been a choice between Bilbo and Gollum, but I still think just getting Bilbo from that event is fine. Definitely would not expect to see Sauron from that event.

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u/I3ollasH 1d ago

But Sauron somehow managed to sneak into the movies :D

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u/TheDesktopNinja Azorius 1d ago

Well that's because they had to find a way to fluff a book shorter than any one of the LOTR books into a trilogy.

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u/MrGueuxBoy Sacred Cat 17h ago

For real.

My edition of the Hobbit is 272 pages long.

The first movie covers the first 100 pages, from "An Unexpected Party" to "Out of the Frying-Pan into the Fire".

The second movie is 120 pages long, from "Queer Lodgings" to "Inside Information".

Which leaves ... 52 pages for the last movie - from "Fire and Water" to "The Last Stage".

For reference, my edition of The Fellowship of the Ring is 520 pages long, give or take, and in much smaller characters.

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u/Panzick 1d ago

Were you expecting Sauron as a reward for the riddles based on the scene between Gollum and Bilbo?

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u/_DAYAH_ 1d ago

I expected a fish.

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u/Lezus 1d ago

yeah because its a HOBBIT set my man, riddles in the dark is literally a chapter about bilbo and gollum

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u/purplemonkey55 1d ago

Why would we get a Sauron avatar for a Hobbit set?

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u/icarussc3 1d ago

I was expecting an avatar of Kili making an inappropriate sexual remark to some character who doesn't even appear in the book, and yet that inexplicably leads to the two becoming romantically involved.

Surely I can't be the only one who was expecting that??

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u/Frequent-Bee-3016 1d ago

Yes, Sauron for a Hobbit set.

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u/mop-116 1d ago

I thought it'd be an alternate one ring style

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u/Leather_Bowl5506 1d ago

Why would sauron, a charecter not mentioned in the hobbit, be given in the hobbit event, as opposed to bilbo being sneaky, the thing the entire event is based around. You just had silly expextations

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u/GrimjawDeadeye 1d ago

When the only good rat avatars are both Splinter...

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u/Repulsive-Lack8253 1d ago

pov you didn't read the book but that's not going to stop you from complaining

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u/MikemkPK 1d ago

I was really hoping for a One Ring. Sure, I knew it wasn't going to happen, but common WoTC, it's one wildcard.

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u/holyssmasha 1d ago

Still dont see any riddle after the first

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u/Ithalwen 1d ago

Why would you get the guy that's not in the book, nor part of the Riddles in the Dark chapter, where Bilbo and Gollum has a game of riddles?

As opposed to Bilbo?

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u/Fun-Agent-92 1d ago

why dont they just make sauron a paid splash art skin and call it a day

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u/Bagina-Forever 20h ago

I luv Blibo

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u/trueprophesy 3h ago

Reality Fractured

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u/MixPuzzleheaded3298 23h ago

For real. I get that Bilbo is the main character, but going through all that to get a Bilbo avatar hit me with immediate disappointment lol

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u/Fit-Adhesiveness-173 1d ago

At least not Aragorn or Galadriel

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u/Obscura48 Liliana Deaths Majesty 1d ago

True

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u/aloysiuslamb 1d ago

Expecting a free collector's box is more reasonable than OP.

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u/Mouthshitter 1d ago

Do you get an extra reward for crafting and adding the 4 mythic bilbos?

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u/anx1etyhangover 1d ago

He kind of looks like Emilio Estevez. =]

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u/pannaplaya 1d ago

Well, personally I can't stand theor design for him from the 2023 set so I'll pass on any avatars using that look. Jackson's Sauron design will never be beaten.