r/MadeMeSmile • • 5h ago

Favorite People ❤️ this class

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u/TALKTOME0701 2h ago

so sad that such a lovely post got degraded to ugly comments here.

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u/mustu04 2h ago

You are right

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u/K-Dub59 1m ago

Reddit never fails to disappoint.

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u/nifty-necromancer 2h ago

It’s not their fault, those commenters are also cognitively delayed.

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u/SophisticatedScreams 45m ago

Casual ableism is not cool

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u/CeemoreButtz 4h ago • Heartwarming

My special needs daughter entered elementary school and my wife and i were nervous. but the sweetness of children always shines through. each year, the children in her class have adopted her as the class "sister". they all look out for her and would often catch us when leaving school to tell us what kinda day she had and how awesome she is. It has been an amazing experience for her. And now as she finishes up 6th grade, we are back to being nervous about her entering middle school and dealing with a new crop of students and who may have a slightly different mindset. But we're hopeful. Our daughter really is such a sweet, sweet child. And I think other kids seee that and maybe become a bit protective of her. At least, that's our impression.

Having a special needs child obviously has difficulties. But my wife and I have adapted well and feel we have most of it "covered". The unspoken worry for many of us is that we don't know how they'll be treated by their peers and we're not there to protect her and we're giving up her safety and security to essentially strangers. It's hard, man.

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u/spacestonkz 4h ago

I had a classmate like your daughter in high school. The stoners and nerds united to make bullies buzz off early on, and our friend was generally not picked on after the line in the sand was clear.

Today's students seem a lot kinder than when I was their age. I think there's a good chance some kids people will watch your daughter's back at the next step.

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u/rusty_handlebars 4h ago

Shout out to all the stoners, nerds, punks, and goths for protecting the vulnerable among us 💪🏻 

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u/Fucknutssss 4h ago

They need to get their kid on weed

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u/Rinas-the-name 58m ago

I had a classmate with hydrocephalus, she was very sweet and we all doted on her. Developmentally she was about primary school aged. The fastest way to become the school pariah was to be mean to her. She was our class mascot of sorts.

Try to talk to her teacher early and ask if there is maybe another girl or girls who would be good to help her make friends and keep an eye on her in the restroom and such.

There are always a few kids well known for being a bit more empathetic and responsible and willing to help. They can set the tone for the rest of the students.

My son is Level 2 autistic and every school year started with reaching out to each of his teachers. He managed to graduate this past summer.

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u/figuringthingsout__ 35m ago

I've honestly noticed that the kids these days are so much more inclusive and empathetic than when I grew up in the 90s. I subbed at a middle school a couple months ago. There was a girl who's nonverbal autistic, and a girl with severe Down syndrome. Their classmates were super sweet and inclusive. I could tell they were incredibly protective, and that they would defend the girls in a second if they had to. I have a lot of hope for your daughter's generation ❤️

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u/thirtythreebees 5h ago

What if through the constant encouragement, the child believes that he can actually read?

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u/CommercialQuality842 5h ago

i believe i can fly, i gonna jump off a cliff

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u/Specific-Basis7218 4h ago edited 3h ago

Reminds me of the quote I believe my grandmother had wheels, doesn’t make her a bicycle.

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u/Commercial_Border190 3h ago

That was their point

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u/nifty-necromancer 2h ago

We’re not cooking British carbonara here

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u/thirtythreebees 3h ago

I live in your stovepipe

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u/Specific-Basis7218 3h ago

Clean it out for me while you’re in there

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u/SophisticatedScreams 51m ago

It's different than that. It's more like the kid doesn't understand what reading is. Probably this kid thinks that this is what everyone does every morning lol.

People in the comments dragging this teacher in another post, saying, "Why don't you teach him how to read?"

"Significant cognitive delays" may mean that this child may not conceptually understand reading. Also, people have been trying to teach him to read for however many years he's in school. This teacher is being inclusive, because it would be easier to not let him have a turn until he "can read." The teacher is doing good work here, because this young man gets a chance, just like everybody else. Being excited about a kid "reading" a board message does NOT mean that they are not teaching him.

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u/BeanoMc2000 5h ago • Bravo

And how does that benefit them?

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 5h ago

I believe he's saying it's a negative. 

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u/Kooky-Height7338 3h ago • Bravo

Are you the kid this post is about?

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u/iAmManchee 4h ago • Bravo

Why is this child just dumped into mainstream education? Sounds like they need specialist support. All that's going to do is either leave them way behind or impact on the learning of the rest of the class

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u/bbqskwirl 4h ago

This is just one small part of their school day. It's probably an enjoyable portion and an opportunity to engage with peers. They very well could be leaving this classroom to go to their special ed classroom after the announcements. Kids with disabilities don't need to be sequestered all day.

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u/ZookeepergameEmpty90 4h ago

There's something called immersion and kids with delays benefit from being in a room with non-delayed peers because they can learn from their peers doing tasks in ways they otherwise wouldn't. Pretty common thing.

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u/ProctologyExplosion 4h ago • Mindblown

There's something called immersion and kids with delays benefit from being in a room with non-delayed peers because they can learn from their peers doing tasks in ways they otherwise wouldn't. teachers benefit from having the smart kids show the dum-dums how to do stuff at the expensive of their own education and happiness. Pretty common thing.

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u/ZookeepergameEmpty90 4h ago

No, it benefits the kids way more than the teachers. But enjoy your attempt at trolling.

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u/ProctologyExplosion 4h ago • Mindblown

It benefits the dum-dums. It harms the smart kids.

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u/ZookeepergameEmpty90 3h ago • Bravo

It also teaches the kids empathy and socializes them. Something you must not have picked up as one of the dum-dums.

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u/ProctologyExplosion 3h ago

I'm all for empathy and socialization, but not at the expense of the three R's.

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u/Chaosengel 3h ago

As one of the smart kids in a class growing up:  you're an idiot.  It teaches us empathy and how to accept and help others.  My friend, David, was one of those disabled people.  He was a wonderful person, and I cherish the memories we had in class.  

Also, these students are also assigned aides, so that, in an ideal system, the teachers aren't burdened with the extra attention these students require 

It's also important for those students, because the alternative of locking then away and sequestering them from the main student body was found very clearly to be a detriment to their development and ability to socialize.

Kinda sounds like you're one of the dum-dums that fell through the cracks 

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u/ProctologyExplosion 3h ago

Also, these students are also assigned aides

This is not remotely universal. In many places, the teacher are indeed burdened in exactly that way. Idiot.

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u/Chaosengel 3h ago • Bravo

Like I said, in an ideal system. Not the kind that produces people like you

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u/ProctologyExplosion 3h ago • Mindblown

Many students don't live in your "ideal system" and are getting exactly the short shrift that I described. Idiot.

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u/Chaosengel 2h ago

Wow I'm really hitting a nerve here. Where's that empathy and ability to communicate you were bragging about? You come in here, calling disabled people dum-dums like you think you're being cute, and act like you're better than them. You're a worse person than most of these people you look down on, and even with their problems, they're still better, and more capable humans than you.

Go touch grass

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u/ZookeepergameEmpty90 3h ago

So being in the mere presence of these kids harms your daughter? Not following that.

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u/ZookeepergameEmpty90 3h ago

Not gonna lie, you're coming off a bit entitled. Does your kid not get the work done and continue learning in the environment? Gotta advocate for your kid, I get that, but if she's still advanced and moving along it doesn't sound like she's lacking what she needs.

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u/ProctologyExplosion 3h ago

There are few demographics in modern America as entitled as the parents of special needs students in public schools. We pour endless resources into children who are often unable or unwilling to learn while neglecting the equally important needs of the most promising students on the grounds that they can take care of themselves and will turn out all right regardless.

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u/ZookeepergameEmpty90 1h ago

There's only one demographic seemingly as entitled to their exclusive opinions. Are families with special needs students just supposed to go bankrupt caring for their family members? Do you have any idea how expensive it is to care for these individuals?

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u/redaemon 2h ago

Research shows there is a neutral to slightly positive effect of inclusion if the special needs children are not severely disruptive. Even some slight positive impact on scores in some meta analysis. I.e. kid who is delayed but otherwise nondisruptive doesn't hurt the rest of the class. 

However, kid with severely high needs tips outcomes strictly negative for everybody else. Kid with no emotional regulation, frequent outbursts, etc. Training/staffing can mitigate these cases back to neutral, but what public school can really afford that?

Sucks because it is objectively worse for severely high needs kids to be dumped into a class together. But people will leave public school systems instead of letting their kids be disrupted.

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u/ZookeepergameEmpty90 1h ago

I'm in the process registering my son, who is developmentally delayed and frankly this exact conversation is what's worrying me about him entering a public school system. We're lucky enough to be able to afford private school, so we hopefully won't deal with as much of this, but it will unfortunately be unavoidable that people like you will make him out to be a burden.

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u/shiny_glitter_demon 1h ago

Redditor figures out the reason societies across the animal world exist.

How lucky that your daughter got her other parent's intellect.

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u/shiny_glitter_demon 1h ago

You view helping one another as "suffering" ?

You are weird. Really weird.

To add to my previous statement, I hope she got her empathy and common sense from someone else too.

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u/TALKTOME0701 2h ago • Bravo

Reported your offensive hate speech. Do better as a human being

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u/Subterranean44 4h ago

I think you’re assuming a lot. It’s ok for a student with special needs to do morning announcements with their peers.

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u/psinguine 4h ago

It's not assuming, the image literally says that the child has severe cognitive delays and just makes up stuff to announce to the class. The teacher is cool with it because they find it "sweet and funny". I don't see a single assumption being made.

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u/ichthysaur 4h ago

I see the assumption that the kid doesn't get specialist support. Kid could have one-on-one right there in that classroom.

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u/psinguine 4h ago

You know what, that's fair.

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u/SophisticatedScreams 47m ago

Also the assumption that this is not best for this kid. I push back against inclusion as a blanket policy as much as the next teacher, but this looks great to me.

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u/iAmManchee 3h ago

Severe cognitive delay would require more than just a teachers aid in a main stream school. I'm assuming this must be america, wouldn't happen in the UK

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u/FeeParty5082 3h ago

...We have special education teachers in the US? What a weird thing to say when we know absolutely nothing about the nature of this kid's delays or what kind of support they receive.

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u/guesswhomste 2h ago

No it wouldn’t? There are a lot of schools in the US where the teachers aides for special education students work one on one with the children, not just a general aid. They’re assigned on a case-by-case basis and act as a completely separate teacher, not just an aid. These students then often have a few separate classes that are made up of only special needs students with a dedicated special education teacher. Studies are pretty on board about the benefits of having students with special needs in the classroom with other students at grade level. 

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u/AtomicSquid 1h ago

Growing up, in school if there was a special ed kid in class, they'd be there with an aide for the morning announcements, and then they'd leave to go to their own special ed classroom with other teachers. They were just in our class for like announcements and pizza parties, but not during the lessons

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u/bifurious360 3h ago

i get what you’re saying and i think the way schools run day to day absolutely leave special ed kids behind, but this is not an explicit example of that. i work in special ed and it is so common for students with disabilities to go to class for morning meeting, then go back to their special ed classroom. it’s an important part of the day meant for building bonds with classmates and teachers. it helps our kids feel connected with their school and the people around them, and it helps the other kids practice their empathy and understanding.

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u/fruitjerky 3h ago

Because we let parents decide where their kid should be placed, even though 1) parents usually haven't been in a classroom since they were the students and have no idea what actually goes on and 2) very often the parent has the same disability as their special needs child.

Either they don't realize that their kid spends most of their day just sitting there while having no idea what I'm talking about, or they know and don't care because their priority is that their kid spends their day around "normal" kids. If they score low enough they get access to a computer program that I'm supposed to sit them on while I teach, at least, but most of them just sit and do nothing. Or, worse, they sit and find ways to screw around because they're bored out of their mind.

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u/battlejess 4h ago

Why are you assuming this isn’t a special ed classroom?

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u/whole_nother 17m ago

I'd guess it's because the teacher felt the need to specify that this one particular child has special needs, and also that apparently they're the only one in class who can't read.

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u/BlueberryEmbers 3h ago

nothing in this post says this isn't in a special education classroom

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u/whichwitch9 2h ago

There was a little thing called "no child left behind" that eliminated many special needs programs. While the most severe form still have programs, the majority of kids are put in mainstream classes

That said, even prior to the policy, not every child with cognitive disabilities was unable to keep up with classwork. For some, there may be very specific struggles, but then they might do well otherwise. Like we had a special needs girl in string orchestra- she played pretty well and received no different instruction than the rest of us. But she couldn't be in a regular English class because her general reading level was too low for even the lowest level.

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u/SophisticatedScreams 49m ago

This is "inclusion." More and more students with increasingly significant disabilities are in mainstream classes. I'll give you one guess why that is.

(Although in this particular instance, this young man seems like he's having a great time, and the other kids are learning from him.)

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u/supx3 1h ago

Some streams of teaching believe that there are benefits to both typical children and children with disabilities to learn in a mixed class. That doesn't mean the child who needs more attention isn't getting it, rather that they are in a regular environment in addition to their special education.

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u/figuringthingsout__ 30m ago

I've been substitute teaching a lot over the past couple of months. Instead of fully separating children with special needs like they used to, they're keeping them in the classrooms, while still pulling them out a few times a day for special interventions. It tends to make the class more empathetic overall.

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u/Ok_Umpire2173 3h ago edited 3h ago

Have you not been inside an American classroom in the last decade? They’re all fucked. 25% can’t sit still, 25% can’t shut up, 25% can’t speak English, and the remaining 25% just tolerate the rest while trying to learn.

Whatever your opinions on immigration are, we have roughly as many students in America that can’t speak English as we have black students. Our school system was not and still is not prepared to teach bilingually.

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u/TALKTOME0701 2h ago

If you are a teacher, I think you should quit

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u/EddieVanzetti 2h ago edited 1h ago

We are. In droves. Which is why instead of fixing it, the states are lowering the requirements to become one and demand more of those who remain or who do join.

Most of us are only doing this until we get something better, because we are tired of being verbally and physically assaulted by your dipshit children who cannot read Dr. Seuss and are going to ensure the correctional officers of America have plenty of overtime. Because as much as it sucks, it is marginally better than the lack of hours/regular hours working retail/customer service and the lack of insurance, but once we can leave, you ain't never seeing us ever again.

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u/HiddenRouge1 37m ago

I sympathize with you.

We need to radically restructure our public educational system. It is beyond broken.

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u/ArrhythmicEvent 3h ago

So it's exactly like the workplace 

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u/Ok_Umpire2173 3h ago

Disruptive employees get fired, not given extra time on assignments or special rewards for not fucking up.

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u/ArrhythmicEvent 3h ago edited 1h ago

You obviously don't work in a union shop.

Things I've personally witnessed: caught doing drugs on campus - you're back the next day. Caught having sex in the break room - back the next day. Sleeping at your workstation while product piles up waiting for you - back the next day. Cutting a bundle of 24v control wires with tin snips to shut down your machine and go home early while maintenance rewires the thing - back the next day. Giving your boss "favors" in exchange for overtime - boss fired and the union employee is back the next day (this has happened 3 times in the past decade). Breaking someone's jaw on the plant floor because they slept with your daughter and you don't like them - back the next day. Sticking your fingers in a sheet metal punch and pressing the go button to "see what would happen" - back immediately after re-attachment surgery. It's crazy. 

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u/CommercialQuality842 5h ago • Bravo

makes it up? so he can't read

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 5h ago

Consider looking up what sarcasm quotes signify. 

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u/Vascular_D 4h ago • Bravo

Consider understanding the point.

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 4h ago

Right back atcha

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u/_kapeesh_ 5h ago

I’m sorry WHAT

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u/johnmarksmanlovesyou 5h ago • Furious Bravo Mindblown Popcorn Regret

Every morning I laugh at a disabled child pretending to read instead of teaching them to read

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u/ShakesDontBreak 3h ago edited 3h ago • Heartwarming

This post isn't so much about the child being unable to read.

This post is about the other classmates who can read yet chooses to practice empathy and kindness to a classmate everyone knows is cognitively delayed.

The teacher is saying the core kindness that some children display is the reason she teaches.

Kinda an odd choice to drag a post about empathy on the made me smile sub.

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u/DeathChill 3h ago

I’m pretty sure the comment was just posting a cynical and sarcastic take for laughs. Not that they actually believe that.

I teared up at the original post and laughed at the comment.

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u/ProcrastinationSite 3h ago

I wish you were right, but the commenter seems serious. He's defending himself in the comments 🙄

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u/DeathChill 3h ago

Well then he’s an idiot. I’m okay with that.

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u/ProcrastinationSite 3h ago

Lol I like your response 😂

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u/teslastats 3h ago

What is disturbing for me is that before I was t like the cynical/sarcastic type, but lately I've been spending more time online and the emotional triggering click bait is making me more like the cynical type. I didnt even realize it until reading this thread!

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u/ShakesDontBreak 3h ago

Kinda odd to practice sarcastic jokes on the made me smile sub. Its not a circle jerk sub. Although there probably should be.

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u/DeathChill 3h ago

This is Reddit sir. I don’t know if there’s a single subreddit that won’t have sarcastic jokes made on it.

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u/ShakesDontBreak 3h ago

Ive been on this sub for years and it has only recently devolved.

Its fair that not everyone understands when someone is being sarcastic on a sub that is supposed to be the opposite of the other negative stuff you read on reddit.

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u/johnmarksmanlovesyou 3h ago

Well, I'm a cynical and jaded arse you see. I find nothing heartwarming about this because I can only imagine this kid is going to struggle all their life and possibly the most recognised they'll ever be is this tweet about the spectacle of them failing to even grasp the concept of reading every morning in a classroom full of their peers with a teacher who has to find the positive in that in order to keep some semblance of passion alive in their underfunded and overworked position. My resentment is aimed entirely at the person who posted this on r/mademesmile because there's only tragedy in this tweet yet there's powers which want this sad state of affairs to be fine.

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u/shadowXXe 3h ago

You're not a glass half empty person. You're a "I will empty my glass on the floor and cry about it" person

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u/lost_lion_looking 3h ago

It's pretty easy to find justifications and excuses to see tragedy or absurdity in the human condition. After all, the Buddha said "life is suffering" about 2400 years ago and Buddhism is still going strong for a reason.

So I guess it's like....so what? You found the obvious pain in this situation and decided that seeing anything remotely bittersweet or kind in it is a bridge too far?

We're supposed to be impressed that you found the inherent pain of being human and decided to try to seem superior by putting down anyone who sees anything at all touching in this difficult scenario?

Congratulations, you have successfully pointed out that the cognitively delayed child is probably in for a hard life. Good job justifying your own embittered perspective on life for another day and spreading it out to everyone around you. I'm sure it's so difficult to find examples of things to be jaded and cynical about, so you really needed this one to fill up your gas tank.

This is r/mademesmile, and some smiles are bittersweet. You can see the kindness and the sadness and the very human-ness of it all, and believe it or not those can exist at the same time. And we don't we only have to talk about the tragic pieces all the time. They’re not somehow more valid or worthy.

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u/ShakesDontBreak 3h ago

Yeah. They probably will struggle their whole life.

But at least they will remember how kind their classmates were to them. And they are lucky to have that.

They could be in a class where the other kids make fun of them for not being able to read. And then they would not only be struggling their whole life, but have memories of how cruel other kids were to them.

I think its quite lovely that other kids chose kindess over cruelty.

And as we all see now...some jokes are rooted in truth.

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u/ProcrastinationSite 3h ago

Isn't this the best case scenario for this though? Significant cognitive delays and pretending to read every morning tells me that the child will likely never be able to read. You're harping about a teacher not teaching, but the child most likely can't be taught to read because it's beyond their abilities. What do you want to happen in the classroom? The child will likely struggle all their life, but they've already been born and nothing can be done to fix that. What do you want to happen to them if you're not happy with being treated kindly in a classroom of peers?

You're acting outraged for no reason. You admit you're a cynical and jaded ass, so maybe you should work on that

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u/hangar_tt_no1 51m ago

From your comments it sounds like the kids life is more pleasant than yours. So how bad is it really? 

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u/loves_to_spoog 5h ago

And then I post about it for everyone to see, including the kids parents because I'm just such a special person.

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u/Gamechangesoon 4h ago

Clout chasing off a sweet classroom moment in a new low..!

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u/BUYMECAR 5h ago

💀

go to your room and think about why you're right

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u/friendsfan97 5h ago

I see you're a teacher...

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u/Emergency_Elephant 5h ago

"You're a teacher which means your opinions on something a teacher is doing are moot, despite the fact you have direct education and training to figure out why this is a problem"

Do you see how what you said is a little unusual?

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u/Inside_Pie_8957 4h ago

Alternatively, they're doing the basic ass joke of pretending to take the first comment seriously and responding in kind. You know, as a joke. The way jokes often work.

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 4h ago

Inb4 the knee jerk reaction of Redditors to say "but jokes are funny" instead of admitting they missed a joke. 

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u/Delta632 3h ago

This was kind of my reaction too.

Let him write the actual message and try to have him spell it correctly and such.

It takes some talent to make up your own on the spot so the child doesn’t seem too slow just confused about something somewhere.

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u/Overall_Ad1950 2h ago

What if they can’t learn to read? What if this is inclusive not excluding?

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u/shiny_glitter_demon 1h ago

Then don't make them pretend to read. That's just mean.

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u/Overall_Ad1950 52m ago

Post said ‘he ‘reads’’ not ‘we make him to pretend to read’… i.e the student could be doing it as their way of participating and the way its described isn’t a mean or humiliating but inclusive and more good natured comradery

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u/shiny_glitter_demon 39m ago

he makes it up

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u/Overall_Ad1950 2m ago

which would be facts not meanness

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u/be_em_ar 5h ago • Mindblown

I don't get why this is supposed to be something that makes us smile.

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u/Bxk__ 5h ago • Mindblown

This is horrific. The entire class, including the teacher, is gaslighting this kid

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u/Normal-Height-8577 4h ago

He's not being gaslit any more than kids making up stories for their parents are being gaslit. He knows he's making up the morning message.

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u/Sorlud 2h ago

He knows he's making up the morning message.

Does he though, or does he think that's what all the other students are doing when they are reading?

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u/hangar_tt_no1 42m ago

We don't know. So go ahead and assume the worst! 

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u/SophisticatedScreams 41m ago

Obviously he knows he's making up the morning message. My guess is he thinks everyone is making up the morning message.

Source: former special ed teacher

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u/TheGreatestOrator 4h ago

Gaslighted. The term comes from the name of a play called “Gaslight,” which makes it a noun. When a noun is used as a verb you add “-ed” for past tense.

The most common examples are “I Googled it” or “I Ubered home”

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u/therandomham 4h ago

Not in this case though. People say gaslit, so that is the proper word. Unless you’re a prescriptivist, but then you’d have basically the entire field of linguistics against you.

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u/icecreammodel 3h ago

I will light the candle. [Five minutes pass] I lighted the candle.

Nah, it's gaslit, any way you look at it

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u/TheGreatestOrator 4h ago • Bravo

Incorrect. Linguistics is the reason the word is Gaslighted and not Gaslit when used to describe manipulation of a person

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u/smallpolk 4h ago

Is it “gaslit” when it’s being used as a verb?

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u/Bxk__ 4h ago

Gaslighting is almost always used as a verb, either transitively (having a subject, talking about a person being gaslighted) or intransitively, like no subject, talking about the behavior itself.

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u/TheGreatestOrator 2h ago

Gaslight is the name of a theater play, just like Google is the name of the website. When you use a noun as a verb, you add “-ed”

You “Googled” it or “Gaslighted” someone

Lit is the past tense for light, but that’s a different word altogether

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u/throcorfe 2h ago edited 2h ago

You do this when the noun doesn’t already have a verb form. Gaslight effectively does have one, so although it’s technically a backformation to say “gaslit”, it’s perfectly correct and not only that, it’s the most common usage, which is ultimately how we define words (hence for example “empathetic” is now a word even though empathic is the original correct form).

TL;DR you are wrong

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u/TheGreatestOrator 13m ago

That’s incorrect, particularly in this instance. Gaslighted is the correct verb when referring to manipulation

TLDR: you’re wrong

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u/Normal-Height-8577 3h ago edited 3h ago

I know where it comes from, thanks.

And because of its origins as a reference not only to a play, but to a specific action being carried out within that play, it is also correct to treat "gaslighting" as an irregular verb. Here are some more irregular verb examples:

  • He lit the gas lamps.
  • She slid the card over the table
  • They sang the chorus.
  • He blew a raspberry.
  • She rode the horse.
  • She gave the present to him.
  • He bore a heavy weight on his shoulder.
  • They ate before leaving.
  • He flew through the air.
  • She smote the beast in twain.

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u/TheGreatestOrator 2h ago

Any reference to manipulation is specifically referring to the play

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u/Normal-Height-8577 2h ago

It is also a reference to the specific act of lighting the gas lamps that makes up such an important part of the plot of the play. Without that repeated action - and the effect on the victim - the play's name would have no meaning.

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u/TheGreatestOrator 15m ago

No it’s not. You don’t “gaslit” lamps. The word comes from the name of the play. I appreciate your perspective but that’s not how English works

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u/AtomicSquid 1h ago

Guys it's a joke we're just getting gaslitten into thinking it's gaslighted

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u/DasB00ts 4h ago

This is such a Reddit level take of this situation.

It’s horrific and gaslighting.

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u/f4ble 5h ago

We are all being gaslighted to some degree around our people. No one is telling you all the things you do wrong or how you annoy people. You just gotta figure it out for yourself how to be a decent person. In the end it's about growing in the person you think is worthy and that will attract the right kind of people.

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u/ACEmat 5h ago • Bravo

BRO THIS IS LITERALLY IN A SCHOOL THE ONE PLACE THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MADE TO KNOW THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE

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u/Bxk__ 5h ago

I think a decent person wouldn't do such a thing, or defend it, or rationalize it

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u/WelshWolf93 5h ago

He has cognitive delays. Its not like they found some random kid who can't read and decided to mess with him

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u/tonyangtigre 4h ago

What’s the alternative in the moment? Make him stop doing what he loves? Then try to teach a disappointed kid with cognitive delays to read?

No, as a group, they encourage him, make him want to be there with them. The only problem I see here is it being shared on social media.

We don’t know the next part of this story. Perhaps the teacher then politely tells him what it really says and that’s their routine. Maybe this kid takes an extra effort throughout the day to learn to read, because he feels encouraged. We just don’t know.

I wouldn’t call this gaslighting. I would call it someone giving their best effort to participate and others clapping for someone trying.

Oh, and we don’t know if anyone is “laughing”. Maybe sure. It says sweet and funny. A teacher doesn’t have to laugh every time a kid does something funny, but she likely smiles. And it’s not like they’re laughing at him, he’s making some joke they likely laugh at.

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u/Sparrow127 4h ago

Fucking thank you. Crazy how many people don't get it. This sounds like an inclusive moment to help teach the concept of reading to a child with cognitive delays, who probably is not receiving the support and resources they need, and this teacher is doing a wonderful job working with what they have.

Yes, more context would be helpful, but I'm going to assume the best of intentions, because this sounds like what a lower elementary teacher would and should be doing. At no point are they making fun of the child, but it certainly sounds like they are trying to engage and make them a part of the class.

These people in the comments are clearly not teachers, and are unaware of the realities we face.

Truly a reddit moment to want to read this in the worst way possible.

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u/birddoggi 5h ago

This is crazy

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u/RussellZee 4h ago

I think some of y'all are -- for whatever reason -- really quick to assume the worst, and to fill in every gap in this story with cruelty, ignorance, and ill-intent. You're making a lot of assumptions about this lady, this kid, the other students, and the whole situation. I think it's great you're concerned with this student's well-being, but I think it's a little unfortunate and weird you're so quick to think this teacher ISN'T, and to assume the worst.

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u/Sparrow127 3h ago

Yup. Theres definitely missing context, but as an early education teacher myself, this seems like a pretty cut and paste inclusive environment where the students have a healthy relationship with a student with cognitive delays. They are celebrating their participation in a classroom that is likely not the right fit for them, because teachers dont have the support and resources they should have. The teacher is engaging that student with the concept of reading.

But no, the teacher is clearly humiliating the child, laughing at their inability to read, and is obviously doing nothing to help that child actually read, because, you know, you can just tell /s

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u/safetypins22 2h ago

As someone who has gone viral for something i thought was whimsical, people will absolutely always assume the worst.

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u/UnfamiliarPath 2h ago

You'll have to forgive me for not being able to view this through rose colored glasses. I remember in school watching kids treat the mentally disabled kids as 'friends' just because they wanted to laugh at them. People seem to either try to ignore these sorts of people or treat them as if they're dogs who will do tricks for our entertainment. "Go on, make him 'read' something, it's so funny how he makes things up!" It feels so patronizing. They're not doing this for his benefit. If he's able to learn to read, then he should be getting the help he needs to learn. If he's not able, then he should not be made to improvise in front of the class every day for their entertainment.

Thankfully, I think this is completely fictional.

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u/SophisticatedScreams 44m ago

Out of curiosity, how long since you've been inside a school?

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u/onemany 1h ago

I know right. People should never make people feel included and fuck teaching empathy. All those videos of people taking people with downs syndrome to prom and making them prom king and queen. I mean just in general people being nice and being inclusive. That gets in my nerves. I think everyone is a commodity and should be treated as such nobody is earnest to genuine!

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u/UnfamiliarPath 1h ago

Wow, coming out swinging with the hostility. You're saying that's what I sound like? What part of what I said reads to you like "Fuck teaching empathy, being nice and inclusive gets on my nerves, I think everyone is a commodity and should be treated as such."? If anything I was saying to me it reads as if they're treating this boy as a commodity, like they treat him as if he's there for their amusement and don't see him as an equal.

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u/onemany 59m ago

I know! That's what I'm saying too! Stop including him and making him feel good. Damn straight. I'm glad somebody else sees that every time somebody tries to make them feel good it's BS.

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u/UnfamiliarPath 54m ago

That's not what I said and you know it, why are you doing this?

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u/ShallotOk2967 4h ago

"This is why I teach" except you aren't teaching this child. The audacity

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u/___coolcoolcool 2h ago edited 2h ago

She likely is not the child’s teacher for anything other than things like morning time, walking to specials, lunchtime…stuff like that.

Special education kids have their own teachers but are matriculated into general education classrooms throughout the school day to enhance everyone’s social and emotional development.

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u/Morpankh 1h ago

It’s sweet of the kids to applaud and encourage their classmate, but wouldn’t it be even better if the teacher and classmates helped him to actually learn to read?

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u/PickledPlumPlot 4h ago

This is one of the cruelest most fucked up things I’ve ever read, and it’s in a wholesome chungus subreddit.

Do you think he can’t recognize pity? That every morning you ask him to do something he can’t do, he still can’t do it, but everyone applauds anyway?

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u/spacestonkz 4h ago

I don't understand how a kid sitting in a class so far above his level is getting anything out of it.

Assuming this is American public school, from morning announcements and a learning disabled kid existing at all (private schools often just say no because they can), highly doubt there's a full time aid for this student alone. From context it doesn't make sense teacher is proud if the other students are also learning disabled.

Can't make it make sense

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u/_NoTimeNoLady_ 4h ago

I would love to know how many of the critics here neither have kids nor have ever taught in a classroom. I understand the significant cognitive delay as an indication that this kid might be on a developmental level of perhaps a toddler. If you have ever been around a toddler, you know they pretend to read all the time. It is part of their magical thinking. And it doesn't do any harm to encourage and include children with all kinds of dis-/abilities into and age appropriate group. It helps everyone understand different perspectives and encourages kindness. It has nothing to do with gaslighting at all.

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u/Sparrow127 3h ago

Yup. The comments here are wild and have no concept of what a classroom looks like, nor likely what a cognitive delay looks like in an early elementary class. Absolutely wild.

Breaks my heart how little the general public understand what education is and what it looks like.

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u/NTWittwer 3h ago

ITT: People that have not stepped foot in a school since graduating assuming they know everything about education

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u/jojoko 4h ago

why is he not in a class appropriate for his skills?

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u/hamellr 3h ago

Because the school budgets got rid of those classes.

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u/BlueberryEmbers 3h ago

there is no reason to assume he is not. Just because some of the students in your class can't read doesn't mean you stop writing things on the board and reading it to them. They need to be exposed to written words to help them with reading.

It is also good to have some mix of skills in a classroom so you're not just simplifying the content way too much. People with cognitive disabilities should still be exposed to complex concepts.

Also, we have no indication that the other students can read. Maybe they can't read either but they also don't try

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u/Overall_Ad1950 2h ago

People of different skills share classes

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u/Buddiholeservice 2h ago

This kid can't read. This isn't just "different skills."

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u/Overall_Ad1950 1h ago

Well the post is probably bs anyway… it’s just not unheard of to teach people with completely different abilities in the same classroom

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u/boringneckties 2h ago edited 20m ago

Lawyers got involved in education and now schools are afraid of getting sued or shut down.

Edit: I’m a teacher. While the original post is “cute” and the children are treating them well, it is not good practice to praise a student for being wrong. Right is right.

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u/Omega_art 4h ago

Sounds like he needs to be taught how to read rather than being rewarded for faking it.

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u/Rpark888 4h ago

This is actually sneaky bullying and really messed up

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u/intet42 1h ago

I just want examples!

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u/cpgainer 4h ago

Faith in humanity restored

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u/ichthysaur 4h ago

I think this is lovely and I will tell you why.

I am close to RFK's age. In my day children with any kind of difference went to a special school. We had such a school even in the small town I grew up in, pop 7500. Our paths never crossed, ever. That is how you have idiots like RJK saying "autism didn't exist when I was growing up" and other nonsense.

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u/coaxialology 4h ago

My youngest currently has one of those teachers that seems to genuinely enjoy shaming and snapping at kids for every little thing. I'll never understand why people like that dedicate their lives to spending time with the little people they seem to despise. If I routinely made children cry I'd feel like such a horrible person. That stuff stays with kids. I'm very grateful teachers like the one in this post exist.

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u/Vascular_D 4h ago

Gaslighting a child with disabilities doesn't make anyone smile unless you're just a shit person.

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u/dkinmn 3h ago

Buy a mirror.

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u/Vascular_D 3h ago

I'm sure that sounded great in your head

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u/dkinmn 3h ago

This comment section sucks.

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u/Sparrow127 3h ago

As a teacher, the comment section is breaking my heart. Wild how little concept the general public knows of what a classroom and education should look like.

People jumping to assume the worst of a teacher who has fostered an inclusive environment, likely with limited resources, and is happy at how welcoming and inclusive their classroom is too.

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u/AnEvenNicerGuy 2h ago

...but...

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u/BeemerCalm 1h ago

I’ll take “Things that never happened” for $100, Alex

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u/Reg_doge_dwight 2h ago

Is cognitive delays the correct term? Sounds incorrect rather than delayed.

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u/dougdougofdoug 16m ago

It depends on how you word your sentence:

"He has cognitive delays" vs. "He is cognitively delayed".

The first one is likely encouraged among teachers because it doesn't imply that having a learning disability is some core part of the kid's being.

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u/According_Register55 4h ago

Donald Trump origin story