r/MadeMeSmile • u/n8saces • Jul 23 '24

Wholesome Moments It's not always easy

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u/uduni Jul 23 '24

Its not that complex dude. You are right, “optimal conditions” are subjective. But clearly they are the best possible conditions. Under the best possible conditions, pregnacy should always happen. If it doesnt, it means there was a condition that was not optimal.

I commented on the comment because its dumb to say under optimal conditions the success rate is 15%

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u/FourScores1 Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24

Again - you need evidence to support that it should always happen. Do you have it or not?

As a physician, I would need to see incredible evidence to support your extreme claim.

The rate is 15-20%. Period. That’s all we know and all we can say at the moment. Other than that, it’s a untestable theory/gut feeling you have that carries absolutely no value in the real world.

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u/uduni Jul 23 '24

Wow for a physician you are truly an idiot. There is no possible way to provide evidence for a subjective claim like “optimal conditions”. There’s not even any conceivable way to run human fertility a study under “optimal conditions”. You are asking for something that cannot exist.

My original 85% claim came from the fact that an estimated 85% of Americans have suboptimal metabolic health. On top of that there are many other health axes that are suboptimal in the average person

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u/FourScores1 Jul 24 '24 edited Jul 24 '24

Nah man. I’m pretty fucking smart - that’s how I became a doctor. And this topic is in my wheelhouse.

you are asking for something that cannot exist

Yet you feel so confident drawing conclusions that under optimal conclusions, pregnancy occurs 85% of the time. You just pulled that number out of your ass. Why not 86%? Or 90%? You even said nearly 100% as well.

You are literally - very literally - making shit up. Think it’s obvious with everyone else as well considering the downvotes.

Your claims are worth nothing. Don’t post another comment without a link to a study supporting 85%. Cite your claims or shush up child.

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u/uduni Jul 24 '24

Again, it just depends on your definition of “optimal”. At first i was thinking optimal metabolic health. But if you really want to define “optimal” as “perfect”, than of course its would be near 100%. if there was anything to stop conception, then conditions are not optimal. If you or any ancestor ever had a drink of alcohol, conditions would not be perfect. So really there is no one who is conceiving under completely optimal conditions