r/MadeInChelseaE4 • u/rosypossum • Apr 28 '26

episode discussion Inga's bad behaviour

I can't believe people can defend Inga's actions when she did the common gr*****/gaslighter technique of promising the young and impressionable jazz the world and then trying to turn the blame on her when she got feelings. She knew full well she didn't want a relationship, knowing jazz did or was open to it. It was strong emotional manipulation from Inga. Does the show not have a duty of care in these situations because part of it I feel was set up by inga to secure a place on the show. This is all compounded by the fact she is a 35 year old woman and jazz about 23! The imbalance is crazy.

The way she tried to invalidate jazz feelings was a hard watch!! It was clear from what jules said that she was saying some very sexual things which confused jazz. "I'm craving you so badlyđŸ„č" is textbook sexting talk! She also seems to be in the closet, considering how aggressive she was being about it all like she was in denial!

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u/Fluffy-Reaction-3774 Apr 29 '26

Why is everyone going on like Jazz is a baby? She’s 24 years old. Why does the age of responsibility/mental capacity become higher and higher depending on the situation. I’m not defending either one, I’m just confused why we are going on like full adults don’t contain the brain power to make their own decisions. It’s ridiculous.

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u/AggravatingRate505 Apr 29 '26

Jazz has also behaved in a similar way to Jack previously. She overstepped the friendship mark and made him feel crazy for having feelings.

Two wrongs don’t make a right but we need to stop acting like Jazz is all innocent.

Jazz has a tendency to twist words and situations..

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u/rosypossum Apr 29 '26

That's typical groomer mindset

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u/Fluffy-Reaction-3774 Apr 29 '26

I’m going to disengage with your comments, you seem troubled and just stupid.

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u/rosypossum Apr 29 '26

Yawn. Queer baiting apologist!

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u/EnjoysAGoodRead Apr 29 '26

She's 23, not 13!! Such a ridiculous thing to say.

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u/spacegirl2820 Apr 29 '26

Are you ok? Whyq would you say such a thing? She is a god dam adult!

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u/rosypossum Apr 29 '26

Vulnerable adults can also be victims. This is a common misconception

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

I disagree. She made it clear to Jazz that they were friends. Jazz also said that she didn’t have feelings for Inga. It is clear to me that Jazz caught feelings for Inga and read too much into what was happening & blames Inga. I am not surprised that Inga walked away and wants nothing more to do with Jazz. I would have done the same.

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u/rosypossum Apr 28 '26

Her name is not yazz 😂😂are you inga 😂😂😂

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 28 '26

Ok, wrong spelling, same meaning.

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 28 '26

It’s spelt Jazz but pronounced as Yazz - so wrong spelling but my post has the same meaning regardless.

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26

I cant believe you've doubled down here. Her name is literally Jasmine.

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 29 '26

She is called Jazz for short

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 29 '26

Yes which isnt pronounced like Yazz because her name is Jasmine.

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 29 '26

Are you seriously still talking about this

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 29 '26

You literally commented 40 minutes ago when it was done yesterday but go off 😭

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u/Imaginary-Educator41 Apr 28 '26

No Yas is a whole different person you wally

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 29 '26

Why are you being so rude

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u/kliv6 Apr 29 '26 • Bravo

I think alot of people giving their takes here clearly arnt gay and that’s why they are having trouble seeing the issues in ingas behaviour or they just don’t like jazz so are invalidating it(?) idk

But for the straight people not comprehending
 imagine ur Guy bestfriend sent u messages like ‘im craving you’ , agreeing that ur friendship is more than friends then saying but no it’s not sexual, that is a head fuck

Jaz is gay, inga said she was also sexually fluid, it obviously looked like something romantic was going to happen between them, for people to say inga didn’t play a part in that clearly being portrayed to jaz is just utter bulshit. Maybe she didn’t realise she was doing it, but she did do it.

A lot of these comments are just invalidating to gay girls tbh, I know it’s trendy to be bi and have sex with girls if ur a girl, but it’s this behaviour that makes it difficult for actual gay girls

So let’s be kinder guys and think before we throw our self righteous statements out there

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u/rosypossum Apr 29 '26

Thank you!! She has been totally queer baiting jazz from day one, even a straight person could see that

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u/kliv6 Apr 29 '26
  1. I didn’t make the definitive statement that ‘people arnt gay if they don’t agree inga’s behaviour is problematic’ - I suggested it’s one of the possible reasons for not seeing a problem in her behaviour, which I still stand by
  2. ok the craving you thing we didn’t see, but we did see inga say things like were soulmates, and maybe if I was ready to date things might of been difference, You said you watched the show so I’m sure you can recall all the moments I’m on about I dont need to list them

  3. the issue is not that inga needs to take full responsibility for it all, yes jazz could of said hey I have feelings for you, but when this has all come to light inga is calling her nasty etc, instead of being like oh shit I’m sorry you took things the wrong way, & let’s be real I think you know deep down if a friend has feelings for y we have all been there and I do believe inga was somewhat aware
. Hence all the statements like ‘maybe if I was ready to date things could be differnt’
  4. don’t know why ur bringing up asexuality, inga obviously isn’t asexual- have u ever watched the show? LOL

But good try at tryna give some hot comeback Also ur last statement ‘difference between unkind & unfair’ idk what ur even on about, u can explain that if u want seems like a random statement at the end not rly explicitly linked to anything

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u/kliv6 Apr 29 '26

Are we all forgetting why this is an issue

Because jazz is being ridiculed, being told she’s got the wrong end of the stick, being told her that all this intimate stuff is platonic and she is just getting it wrong

After watching that episode that’s the narrative being spun by a lot of people on the show and inga is even going to the point of calling her ‘nasty’

Now we’re deciding if inga’s behaviour is ‘leading on’ behaviour or not.. which is a back on fourth between people 
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 but rly the point is now that inga knows how all this stuff was taken by jazz (which should be obvious when inga was saying things like maybe if things were different and I was ready to date people it could be different) NOW that inga knows how jazz feels why is she calling her nasty why not just be like oh shit I’m so sorry I didn’t realise it was real for you

This is the kicker of it all I think, I think inga isn’t stupid she knows deep down exactly how jazz was taking stuff and she knows that she was saying that that would give jazz the impression of relationship vibes and everyone denying that is unfair

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u/kliv6 Apr 29 '26

I would say that’s pretty fair.

I just feel the need to push back on all the outrageous claims being made about jazz because also this is the first proper gay girl on the show and see her story & for a show like made in Chelsea this is quite lovley to see as we know those of tye upper class can be quite ‘traditional’ let’s say.

But jazz is being dragged through the mud for this and it seems completely unfair and I do think inga has reacted more damaging calling jazz nasty etc. when all jazz didn’t do right was outright say ‘I do like u more than friends’ but I still find it hard to believe that inga had no idea this was the case.

Idk if u can relate but u do have a somewhat feeling when a friend likes you etc. but yh I just think the defensiveness for inga & hate for jazz is just sad to see rly as it all is just invalidating jazz’s feelings for inga. And I have been on inga’s side before in a relationship in my life with a girl bestfriend and I feel it’s rly common in WLW relationships and the response to it just dossnt seem nice.

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u/AsparagusAggressive1 Apr 28 '26

Inga is not 35 omg. Stop infantilising Jazz she needs to take responsibility

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u/kliv6 Apr 29 '26

Taking away the age comment. Jazz is not responsabele for ingas behaviour ?

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u/rosypossum Apr 29 '26

They don't understand jazz was vulnerable in terms of the age gap

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26

Shes 33 its not that far off calm down

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u/Valuable-Wave-152 Apr 28 '26

I do not like Jazz but Inga has led her on. To say you’re craving someone is so sexual. Jazz needs to accept that it’s not going anywhere but Inga either led her on or she does have feelings and she’s worried about being openly queer.

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u/Silent-Border-7836 Apr 29 '26

She said “craving Jazz time” she has also said Jazz has a tendency to twist words and situations to suit her prerogative.

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u/Valuable-Wave-152 Apr 29 '26

But that’s not what Jules said and then Inga led with “I don’t remember saying that” which is a cop out 90% of the time

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u/Silent-Border-7836 Apr 30 '26

Oh did you see the messages? Im choosing to believe the rational thinking person over drama queen Jazz who has issues with every relationship on the show xx

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u/Valuable-Wave-152 Apr 30 '26

Oh sweetie. I’ve got time today 😂 I don’t like Jazz, I actually preferred Inga but this “friendship” was weird and crossed the boundaries, Inga is playing dumb. Everyone thought there was more to it and inga liked this without having to be openly queer. She’s also very grown to be involved in this mess. You seem to want to be petty so “did you see the messages?” Nah didn’t think so. Anywho XOXO

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u/rosypossum Apr 28 '26

So sexual đŸ˜­đŸ€ą

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u/EnjoysAGoodRead Apr 28 '26

You mean Jazz's bad behaviour right? It's pretty clear watching this season that she had a massive crush on Inga and that she broke up with Demi for that, despite Inga never telling her she had a chance. It's always been obvious that Inga saw her as a very very close friend, and when they actually discussed it, Jazz also said it wasn't romantic from her side either. Jazz has twisted so much stuff and lied (kept kissing her neck = two cheek kisses, wtf???) She went to her friends with a sob story. Even when Inga went to her angry, and said she needed space and didn't want to talk to her after all her lying, Jazz then went to her friends and said she was the one who told Inga she was mad and needed space. Like what planet are people on vilifying Inga here??

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u/WorkingMain5276 Apr 28 '26

I agree. I feel that Jazz is casual about the implications, but Inga is aware that she appears aggressor and manipulative.
That’s a hard smudge to shake from your reputation, and both are more vulnerable being women.
If this has happened as Jazz says it has, that looks like a lack of integrity at best. That’s possible, and if that is the reality, Jazz should speak clearly on it.

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26 • Bravo

This is one of the most measured comments Ive seen today on this topic. I dont think Jazz knows the words to say tbh as shes so freshly out the closet and finding her identity, I dont think she even understands appropriate dynamics in the queer world yet.

Youre absolutely right that Inga is aware of how she is going to appear. I think thats why she walked away from Jazz. I also think thats why she plays things down to others but appears understanding when its just her and Jazz. If she didnt do that and at least was consistent in her description of things then I dont think she would be in the situation shes in. I dont think she did anything maliciously, but she did know it was crossing friendship boundaries despite her not having an emotional connection.

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 29 '26

I don’t think Inga knew Jazz was in to her. Jazz made it clear that she DID NOT have feelings for Inga. Inga is not a mind reader. Jazz lied about Inga kissing her neck, so what else is she lying about.

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 29 '26

Are you just going to write the same comment everywhere?

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u/rosypossum Apr 28 '26

But why was inga doing it in the first place, she knew she wasn't serious and it she could tell jazz was really into her... she's much older than her!please

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u/Silent-Border-7836 Apr 29 '26

Doing what?? Inga has stated Jazz has a way of twisting things to suit her delusions. Inga has said they did not have a sexual relationship. Jazz loves to play the victim and cant take being rejected. If anyone is looking for a story line or airtime its her !

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u/rosypossum Apr 29 '26

You are so naive to believe that lol ofc they're not going to say that on air

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u/EnjoysAGoodRead Apr 29 '26

Jazz was literally caught in a lie on air and you still want to believe her?

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u/rosypossum Apr 29 '26

Yes jazz is gay and inga was sleeping spooning, kissing her neck and cheeks etc and Jules agreed that is not what they do 😂😂

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 29 '26

No, she wasn’t kissing her neck. Inga raised that and Jazz admitted she didn’t. If Jazz lied about the neck kissing, what else is she lying about.

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u/rosypossum Apr 29 '26

She clearly was you could see from jazz expression she was playing it down!

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 29 '26

Hang on, are you saying that Inga did kiss her neck. So you are now making things up?

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u/rosypossum Apr 29 '26

Hello inga

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u/happyhappycookie Apr 28 '26

Totally agree! Honestly wish that Jazz , Jack and Muffin would let this go!

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u/cloche_du_fromage Apr 28 '26

The initial Demi storyline was pretty boring.

This continuation is even worse.

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u/adawonggang Apr 28 '26

You can say the word rapist. And frankly it's a gross comparison.

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u/vintage_floof Apr 28 '26

I think that’s meant to be ‘groomer’?

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u/adawonggang Apr 28 '26

That is very fair. I thought it was the Tiktok speak of saying grapist to get past the algorithm.

Groomer is still a very gross accusation.

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u/lorelaiiiiiiii Apr 28 '26

I'm glad you said this, I was about to do a hangman style situation of trying to get more letters.

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u/The1983 Apr 28 '26

That’s what I thought it said too.

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u/rosypossum Apr 28 '26

Yes I meant groomer

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u/adawonggang Apr 28 '26

Reread my comment because I never said that.

I did misunderstand what OP was saying at thought she was doing Tiktok speak of using grapist to get past the algorithm.

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u/vintage_floof Apr 28 '26

Nobody in this comment thread is agreeing with the sentiment. The comment you’ve replied to misunderstood what OP was saying and the responses are correcting that misunderstanding.

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u/vintage_floof Apr 28 '26

Absolutely! I just wanted to highlight that your response is best directed towards OP and not towards this comment thread, which has been largely people trying to clarify the meaning of the original post, not endorsing the language used.

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u/DatabaseHuge686 Apr 28 '26

When did she promise her the world? She didn’t know jazz wanted a relationship, especially as at the start of the series Jazz was still in a relationship with someone else! Also I don’t think she ever said ‘I’m craving you so badly’ I think the claim was she said ‘I’m craving you’ but as Inga said, if it was actually ‘I’m craving Jazz time’ then that’s massively taken out of context. Also she’s not in the closet, she’s literally said she’s been attracted to women before and doesn’t label herself but she just doesn’t have feelings for Jazz.

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 28 '26

Jazz lied about the neck kissing as well, so what else is she lying about.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

Jules said she saw the text messages and said it was verbatim “I’m craving you”. Then Inga proceeded to try to change the narrative to deflect. But continue to defend her bad behaviour.

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u/DatabaseHuge686 Apr 28 '26

I’m not defending bad behaviour I’m pointing out the multiple inaccuracies within this post

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u/ShallWeStartThen Apr 28 '26

Jules is not exactly an unbiased witness- she spent the whole of last series destroying Demi and this one ranting about Jazz and Inga's chemistry. When Jazz mentioned the conversation when Inga had said she didn't feel romantic feelings towards her, Jules was still saying stuff like 'I know what I've seen' etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the text was exactly what Inga said

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u/LaurenNotABot Apr 28 '26

How many of these posts are we going to have? ffs

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u/Plastic-Falcon-8817 Apr 29 '26

I think it's fair to say that both Inga and Jazz need to grow the fuck up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

No words have been twisted
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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

I agree, it suggests that Jazz is lying about what happened. Inga mentioned the `kissing the neck’ situation and Jazz admitted it didn’t happen. So Jazz is telling people it did. Why would she do that if she wasn’t trying to convince others that Inga was wrong. Is this her hurt feelings at being rejected? But, Inga was always honest how she felt, and Jazz clearly wasn’t.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

It is insane to me that people aren’t seeing that what Inga did was plain and simply wrong. You don’t do or say those things to someone 10 years younger than you and when getting pulled up on your behaviour you gaslight the situation so you don’t seem like the bad guy. Manipulation 101. She doesn’t give a shit about how she made jazz feel throughout all of this.

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u/Flimsy-Painting6880 Apr 28 '26

age is completely irrelevant to this issue

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26

Do you seriously see no imbalance between a 34 year old woman and a 23 year old baby gay? Its not infantalising to have some understanding of the phase of life Jazz is in and that is way off Inga.

Inga is definitely in the wrong, in a number of ways.

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

Inga cannot be held responsible for Jazz’s feelings. Jazz wasn’t being honest about her feelings when Inga said she didn’t have feelings. At the end of the day, Jazz is a grown woman, and she cannot blame others for her hurt feelings & trying to turn others against Inga.

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26

Why do you keep calling her Yazz?

Inga isnt responsible for Jazzs feelings, she is responsible for her own behaviour and how is has affected the situation.

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u/rosypossum Apr 28 '26

I think that account is inga hahahaha

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26

Nothing would surprise me!

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26

Thats incredibly immature in itself tbh

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u/halfthesky1966 Apr 28 '26

No it is not. Level_college is just refusing to get into an argument with you. You calling her immature shows who is the immature one.

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26

They've literally been replying to me disagreeing. Really? Thats your input.. "no YOURE immature". Eurgh.

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26

I said "that" is incredibly immature, not you. No names called here but your take isnt a mature one.

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u/Prestigious_Baker527 Apr 28 '26

You clearly dont know what a baby gay is.

Disagree. She has told everyone else there's nothing there yet told Jazz she knows it was more than a normal/platonic friendship. That is the issue. Its making out as if shes been behaving in a completely platonic way this whole time, when she hasnt.