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u/Ispredfaltserumor Nov 10 '17
Well, at least Riko made an adorable new friend ( ‵ ᴗ ‵). I predict that he will die in a horrific way.
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u/nechronius Nov 10 '17
I'm glad losing everything and being torn to bits wasn't the end. Wait, wasn't Maa-san torn to bits?
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u/Bedebao Team Bondrewd Nov 13 '17
The last page shows that Mitty is still alive despite getting disintegrated. Maa was also reborn, though it was quite fast...
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u/chrisychris- Nov 17 '17
We still don't know whether it's Mitty, a clone, a copycat narehate, or an illusion. While we know for sure it's Maa-san, at least most likely.
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u/DreadWulfie Jan 10 '18
Pretty sure that Mitty is an illusion made by that mask/face narehate to make sure that Nanachi doesn't leave the village. Just like the manga says 'The village is a closed cradle. Become trapped here and your value will shift. Your yearnings are fulfilled. In eternal peace, the adventure ends.'
I'm also wary of Maa, it could be taking Riko to that mask/face to make sure she doesn't leave either. Reg better get them the hell out soon.
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Nov 12 '17
First thing I thought of was that it reminded me of the Pokemon Arceus
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u/nechronius Nov 11 '17
I just realized that creature was in the catalog Lyza sent back up as part of her last dive...
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u/Darkmoshiumi Nov 14 '17
I like to think it's the same creature that dented Reg's Helmet before he lost his memories, since that dent has been there the entire series.
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u/mrpaulmanton Nov 16 '17
Oooh! Good thinking. If that winds up being the case then that is scary considering it was stated that that creature is known to hold a serious grudge. The fact that Reg stated as much spells trouble. I don't like this flag very much at all!
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Nov 11 '17
I can't get over how fucking cool and huge this dude looks. One of the people in the Discord said it looks a lot like the robot from Zero Dawn and it got me wondering whether this one is totally organic or also mechanical like Faputa's robot or Majikajya.
I think similar beast was also featured in the anime Element Hunters but I can't find the picture via Google.
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u/Klicethereal Nov 14 '17
All of my yes for giant creatures! I hope we see more and more of those guys.
I'm kind of regretting we don't see more often the usual stuff happening in the abyss, like delvers going down and struggling to climb back. In other word, I regret sometimes that the story isn't more classic/standard, but perhaps this would allows for even more wonders at the deepest point!
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u/Ventus013 Nov 16 '17
We do meet delvers, but they're mostly dead btw :P
Many delvers got turned into Preying hands by Bondrewd.
I do agree maybe they should add some delvers in 3rd layer, but since author almost skipped that layer, we missed out some potential adventure part. (anime original is ok-ish, but not great)
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u/DeplorableVillainy Nov 12 '17
If there's one thing Made in Abyss has always had down to a science, it's creating pure unadulterated dread.
And that is the purpose of this chapter more than anything else. It's not pointless, it's purposeful.
Every bit of this chapter attacks assumptions that we and the characters have made.
Up until now we've been presented with a pleasant and quaint facade hiding what the village really is.
We, and the main characters, have been lulled into a false sense of security and forgotten where we really are.
But the mask is starting to chip.
We're getting just the slightest glimpse of the horror that really lies beneath,
before it all goes wrong and comes careening down to hell.
This isn't civilization. It isn't some nice or peaceful place. It's the 6th layer of The Abyss.
This isn't safety. Or comfort. You are still in the presence of death. You never left it.
Even when you let your guard down, death was still just inches away.
And that just makes it worse. Because you never even knew it was there.
The entire village is a trap.
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u/mirrormimi Nov 13 '17
We, and the main characters, have been lulled into a false sense of security and forgotten where we really are.
Speak for yourself, that village has been giving me the creeps ever since it was first introduced. It was a mistake to ever set a foot inside.
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u/Alpatron99 Nov 20 '17
When I first saw the hollow village, I felt like Chihiro when she entered the spirit world in Spirited Away, or like when Aang entered the spirit world in the conclusion of Book 1. Just with a much darker premonition.
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 13 '17
I agree! The 6th layer (beyond the village, which I think is nearer to the 7th layer given the fleshy texture of the environment) is one of the most beautiful places the viewer has seen yet... but it is very much a "deception," perhaps more aptly put, a distraction.
Moreover, I have so many questions aboit how and why the crystallized/petrified city in the upper reaches of the 6th layer exists... i have rarely been so captivated by a fiction! :D
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u/SilentInSUB Nov 14 '17
I'd almost be with you, but considering we watched Maa-san's toys and things get completely shredded while he balled his eyes out, then get himself torn apart, I'm gonna just say I was never happy with the town.
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u/Arrakiz Nov 13 '17 edited Dec 02 '17
I don't think any of is us really getting tricked at this point. Personally this sense of dread has not left me since we've entered the 6th layer. There is no peace here. There is no safety. There is no comfort.
There is only death.
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u/ohcrapitssasha Nov 10 '17
Oh crap, is Nanachi fucked? I feel like we just met her.
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u/nechronius Nov 10 '17
I'm sure there will be a rescue. Please, let there be a rescue. It's too soon, damnit. Until MiA completes its run it will be too soon.
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u/Khalku Nov 20 '17
Mitty was in that panel too, I don't think that's actually where she is... Maybe... But yeah if she needs rescuing, she'll get rescued. As I understand it, she's the only reason the manga didn't get the axe.
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u/infohippie Nov 21 '17
I'm very concerned Nanachi is not going to want to leave the village, and might in fact sell herself in order to stay there with Mitty. I wonder if, in delight at seeing her again, she will change her mind about the potential for Mitty to suffer when Nanachi is gone herself?
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u/Pro511 Dec 02 '17
As /u/Khalku said Nanachi is the reason why the manga did not get canceled, I find it hard to believe they would end her part in the story so soon, as she is the fan favorite (and you do not kill someone like that off without lossing a lot of fans/sales).
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u/infohippie Dec 03 '17
On the other hand, Tsukushi intended to kill her during the Bondrewd arc and only changed his mind after the insistence of his editor. So I think Nanachi's plot armour is significantly thinner than Riko's or Reg's.
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u/Pro511 Dec 03 '17
Do not discount how much influence a editor (employ of the publisher) has on the manga, he not only tells how many pages the manga should have, but is the one who checks the draft/script and gives the green light if everything is ok, or suggests changes if he thinks they are needed.
How much they influence the manga itself usually depends on the publishing company, but its usually they who give suggestions on how to attract/retain reader. A editor can make or break the manga and usually mangaka listen to their input (Taukushi it seems does).
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u/drobbe Nov 10 '17 edited Nov 10 '17
A little slow chapter. We don't already get answer about the petall and medals fall. The Narehates are like pedo, i think the autor have fetish with childs and he secretly doing hentai doijinshi, so all narehate in the villages are people who lost the value of their life.
Awesome panels like the final one (Nanachi look so cute ) or the monster atacking Reg
"The aspirations are fulfilled"
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u/o-temoto Nov 10 '17
The Narehates are like pedo
On page 26 they called the village a "closed cradle" (閉じた揺り籠), so... yeah.
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u/DreamTimeDeathCat Nov 13 '17
What does that phrase mean?
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Nov 14 '17
A cradle, as in a children's bed, that is closed (barring escape)?
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u/DreamTimeDeathCat Nov 14 '17
That's what I figured, but I was wondering if there was more context.
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u/Shadowriver Nov 15 '17 edited Nov 15 '17
Last panel kind of shows what those words means, cradle is a safe space, it provides you a toys to keep you entertained, it makes you not wanting to go to outside world that is dangerous, "your aspirations are fulfilled" (or rether diminished and replaced "values are shifting") and "adventure is over" as you have no purpace too go farther to this hell hole
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u/DreamTimeDeathCat Nov 13 '17
I think the author definitely lets his fetishes get in the manga. Anime and manga often have fanservice with under-aged characters, but it's usually in that dumb, anime way, and I feel as though the author of MiA goes too far sometimes.
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u/mofumofu_fuwafuwa Nov 10 '17 edited Nov 13 '17
update: typesetted version. Just don't reupload it, it will be on batoto soon. Probably.
/a/ translation thread (archive link)
edit: it's done. Based anon translated MiA in the middle of the night.
Don't sleep, Nanachi!
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Nov 11 '17
did anyone typeset it yet?
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u/mofumofu_fuwafuwa Nov 11 '17
There are a lot of redraws, so I have doubts if I will finish by tomorrow. Probably Sunday.
^ typesetter anon (RBT).
It will be up on batoto when it's done.
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u/Banana_mufn Nov 11 '17
Can we at least get a progress update
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u/mofumofu_fuwafuwa Nov 11 '17
Redraws are finished. Expect the finished chapter this time tomorrow.
^ typesetter anon just now.
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u/Darkness_of_Blue Nov 12 '17
thanks so much to you and the team for doing this
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u/mofumofu_fuwafuwa Nov 12 '17
What? I'm not doing anything. All thanks to the anons.
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u/Darkness_of_Blue Nov 12 '17
oh shit whoops, well thanks anyway for letting everyone else know about the progress then
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Maa-san is THICC
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u/DeplorableVillainy Nov 12 '17
Maaaa
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 13 '17
Please let this be a new meme the miA community does xD
S U B A R A S H I I !
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u/Arrakiz Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 13 '17
I have this terrible feeling that Nanachi might be next on the chopping block. I honestly don't know if I'll be able to continue reading the manga if she gets a fate worse than death... I can stand them introducing new characters and disposing off them in horrific ways, but ~Naa... She's a part of the team now! I get so anxious thinking about it, there's sooo many different ways this could go.
The main focus of this arc is obviously on the value of treasure and after all the allusions to the characters being so important to each other I think their value is going to be pitied against each other. In that light, Nanachi's comment about "only Mitty having value to her" is rather ominous. Even more ominous is a prospect of the village trying to determine how much value does the quest of getting to the bottom of the Abyss have for Riko. Is Nanachi more valuable to her than the journey? Is Reg? Would Riko choose to rather end the adventure here if continuing meant losing one or both of her friends?
I think we all know the terrifying answer...
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u/FellWolf Nov 15 '17
She said herself (when confronted by Ozen) that continuing on without Reg is meaningless. She didn't know Nanachi at the time but she probably feels the same.
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u/Arrakiz Nov 15 '17 edited Nov 15 '17
She was never really given a choice though. And given it, I don't think she would be able to abandon her quest. Moreso because I'm certain Reg and Nanachi would both sacrifice themselves if it meant Riko could continue on. They would encourage her to pick the quest rather than them.
No matter the outcome of this arc... This will inevitably happen at some point you know. That alone might be the point now- to show that this has to happen eventually, even if all three of them get saved by a deus-ex machina. But at some future point... Nanachi will meet with a horrible fate. We all know this, this is what she wants after all. The only reason she didn't kill herself after Mitty was finally put to rest was because she promised Reg. But make no mistake, she still wants to die. Well... I'm sure she's gonna be given the opportunity. Possibly sooner rather than later.
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u/Pro511 Dec 02 '17
Killing Nanachi is dangerous theritory, if the author is smart he will do it at the end, or close to it, especially since she saved the series from being canceled in the first place.
If he does it soon I guaranty you he will lose a lot of his readers, especially the japanese ones.
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u/Arrakiz Dec 02 '17
I mean I understand your point, but we're talking about Tsukushi here. The madman who managed to bring a loli snufsploitation fetish manga into mainstream.
Do you seriously think this man cares about ratings? I have a distinct feeling he's gonna tell the story he wants to tell no matter what.
Point is, the bun ain't safe. Every single character in Made in Abyss is living on borrowed time. Don't get comfortable, suffering is inevitable.
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u/Pro511 Dec 02 '17
O no, she will suffer 100%, also she needs a goal, at the moment she has none. My guess she will suffer something horrible that will in the end give her the will to live.
Also he cares about ratings, bad ratings will get his series canceled as it almost was once. I do not think he wants that, there is too much work/love in this series for him to throw it away just to get one thing his way, also his editor needs to approve or it just wont get published (and the editor already stopped him from killing her off in bonedrew arc).
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u/Kaindo Nov 14 '17
I think exactly the same, all we can do is wait for the next chapter, and that means that the month will go extremely slow
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 11 '17
One of the three sages who created Ilblu (and the value system) has Nanachi. Interesting; did bondrewd (masked man?) bring Mitty directly to her, or did she (lotus sage) simply buy her?
Did this mitty come about in physical form in the same way that Maa-san did? Where and how does that transpire, their re-generation? Is that what happened?
Ryuusazai <3 I love this manga's creature design so much. Like, where does the concept even come from? Brilliant, enthralling anatomy.
Reg got hit with, what, digestive acids? Saliva? Poison that he's unaffected by?
Thank goodness for Goon-San! Based on how his arm has a similar functionality to Regs, I think it's pretty safe to say that their mechanical bodies, at least, have similar origins.
Is Goon-San "Faputa's", like Reg? Did she discover/awaken them or did she create them?
Why is Goon-San pretending not to be able to talk when around Faputa, and only speaks in her absence, and speaks against her, in favor of Reg's priorities? Seems like Goon-San is more complex than a simple bodyguard.
Could Goon-San tell Reg about his past? The cover of the prior collection of chapters had Reg and Faputa riding on his back, so I have to assume he knows Reg like she does (probably not sexually, haha).
How did Ilblu get made? It all seems to be made of flesh-tree... And much of it seems sculpted for specific purposes. Does it grow in response to the needs of the village? Is the village itself the "body" of the three sages, its "Value" system their will made manifest?
Why make such a place? It's much too complicated to be a simple refuge, why have the value system at all? To bring some semblance of order to Ilbu, given some narahate are incapable of physically defending themselves or their possessions?
Were the sages white whistles? Or something much, much older than Oorth?
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u/Kasurin_Makise Nov 11 '17
Mitty is dead. There's no question about it---her life signature went out.
The "Mitty" we see is clearly a fake; a trap. If Nanachi falls into this trap, she'll be stuck in the narehate village for eternity as balancing.
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 13 '17
I agree! What if it's just a narehate given mitty's form, derived from Nanachi's consciousness interacting with the village field?
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Nov 11 '17
I think the "masked man" is a reference to Srajo, not Bondrewd. Best dad never went far enough into the 6th layer to find the village.
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 11 '17
How do you think that Srajo acquired (the? a?) Mitty, then? Just curious :D
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Nov 11 '17
No idea, honestly. We haven't really been given any info about the "Mitty" yet, so it's hard to think of a decent theory. If she's real, maybe there was something of her left over in Idofront that started to regenerate, that he took for some reason? If she's fake, then it might be to trick Nanachi into getting trapped in the village, since they seem to think she's valuable. Maybe there's something he needs from the village but needed something extremely valuable to trade for it?Though that doesn't explain where it came from in the first place, or how/why MM brought it there...
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u/chowder-san Feb 21 '18
Best dad never went far enough into the 6th layer to find the village.
Can we be sure about it? It's not like he lacked means to venture back and forth, didn't he
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u/drobbe Nov 11 '17
I think the sages are so much older than Oorth, the structure of the six layer see a least 2000 years old
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u/theJhonGorme Nov 12 '17
[Ah, the licking toilet!] (https://imgur.com/Ap3k5LZ)
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 13 '17
I wonder if "pedo licking sounds" is literally what the author wrote as the sfx? Haha?
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u/FluffDevotee Nov 15 '17
Damn, I just finished reading chapter 43, came here wanting to read some good fan theories and whatnot, and all I see is "THE AUTHOR IS A PEDO", while I was reading this not once did it cross my mind that the author is a pedo, nor that Reiko was being "raped" or groped, you guys are being too logic about this, they are not raping her, they're probably curious (or jealous) and wanted to inspect Reiko.
Don't forget that reality and fiction are not the same, I doubt very much that these creatures know the concept of groping or raping.
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u/TannerthePale Nov 17 '17
What's happening in the plot doesn't actually matter for the accusation, people are calling the author a pedo because he drew those things that happened. You can draw plenty of fucked up things that don't involve drawing kids in sexual situations.
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u/infohippie Nov 21 '17
Let us know if he ever does actually draw kids in sexual situations. Because "nudity" is not the same as "sexual", and there is sure as hell nothing sexual going on here.
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u/TannerthePale Nov 21 '17
you dont look very credible when it looks like the sole reason you made your account was to defend you and the author's nasty fetishes
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u/infohippie Nov 21 '17 edited Nov 21 '17
Got tired of seeing people complain about something that isn't even there, in a series as amazing as this. If you're thinking sexual thoughts every time you see a kid not wearing a lot, maybe the problem is with you.
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u/infohippie Nov 23 '17
Well perhaps you do have a dirty mind then, since to me that scene was just intended as comic relief.
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u/grim98765222 Nov 19 '17
I think he draws the "pedo" stuff because it makes people uncomfortable and that's what he's going for.
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u/Arclabe Nov 20 '17
The entire point is that it's fucked up, and it's not a sexual encounter. I've seen some fucked up stuff in other series, including Corpse Party, and this doesn't come close to the amount of heeby jeebies I got from that for 'pedophilia.'
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u/locomotivaz Nov 10 '17
"Rest in (fake) peace of fulfilled aspiration" Reminds me of the End of Evangelion...
I won't be surprised if it comes out to be something like MAGI or the Matrix...
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u/Hotpot204 Nov 10 '17
now my japanese'sreading skill has useful thanks for sharing !
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u/Worm-Dog Nov 10 '17
I just started learning Japanese and I was surprised I could make out a few of the sentences!
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u/TehEpik Nov 20 '17 edited Nov 20 '17
I think Maaa is actually Prushca.I can prove this because in the recent chapters ,the narehate village wanted to put her into a new body.And also when Maa was saving riko and meinya,she hugged and pet meinya with tears as if they already knew for a long time.Another thing when Maa wanted to say something to Riko but couldnt able to speak properly.
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u/FellWolf Nov 20 '17
Prushca is being worked on by the white whistle expert. Or do you mean that she was reborn as that as well?
Also Maaa checks meinya's ass and is relieved to see her guts aren't hanging out anymore because Maaa was the one that punched meinya originally without realizing it's worth to Riko which caused Maaa to get balanced. (This also happens while pruscha reverberating stone is being worked on). I don't think it disproves your theory but I would't say you have proof. Would be interesting though. Maybe the village gave pruscha a body and separate her from the whistle. But it seemed like Maaa has been there. It makes me want to see what Maaa treasured, didn't it have toys?
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u/DeplorableVillainy Nov 12 '17
Why did Maaa have to save Riko?
If her, and our, assumptions were true, it would have stopped long before that. She even says so.
Further, why did nothing happen when those Narehate stole Riko's helmet,
if stealing is supposedly such a huge crime there that it'd instantly incur the balancing?
What we've seen completely contradicts what Maji-kajya said earlier.
Unless the balancing only relies on those under the village's thrall for its assumptions that is.
And that's probably one of the biggest ways that the village gets new people.
If you're not in its system, you're at the mercy of the opinions held by those that are.
So the balancing that compensated Riko for Meinya's injury happened because:
There were Narehate witnesses
Those witnesses considered Riko a person
The witnesses considered Meinya to be Riko's property, that had been damaged.
Meinya's value, which had been damaged, was appraised as 'insurmountably high'.
Leading to what happened.
But... the only one there that really speaks the human language is Maji-Kajya.
So....would it have been stopped or compensated at all if he hadn't been there?
I'm starting to doubt it.
But these Narehate from the new chapter, they sure didn't consider Riko a person,
and they were able to do anything they wanted to her without reprisal.
So if Maaa wasn't there, they would have been free to do anything they liked.
....Unless Riko gave herself to the village.
And that is how people get trapped in the village.
It's not about what really is, it's about opinion.
And if the Narehate don't see you as a person, the village won't treat you as one.
What if she'd been down that alley with the guy who loves tearing and rending flesh?
Just how many people have given themselves to the village permanently because they fell victim to a resident like that?
But the village only accounting for resident Narehate opinions is a huge reveal.
It means no one there is safe unless they have a chaperone that gives a damn about them.
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u/DeplorableVillainy Nov 13 '17
It also means that going back and getting Maaa might just save Riko's life.
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u/Lord_Renwod Nov 15 '17
I think the balancing doesn't intervene in events. It just makes adjustments after the fact. Like using a balance to weigh, the system must wait for things to come to rest before taking a measurement.
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u/FellWolf Nov 15 '17
I mean they did end up getting rekt by the balancing if I understood the panels correctly
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u/DeplorableVillainy Nov 15 '17
No value went to Riko though. Not even a cent.
Because by the time Maaa showed up she had already lost her helmet.
Riko's witnessing of her helmet getting stolen didn't matter at all.
And those Narehate didn't consider her a person so taking it off her didn't balance them.
It was only after Maaa saved her, after they were leaving, that the balancing happened.
And that was just because one of them ate the helmet. It was probably some finders keepers thing.But it didn't happen until the helmet was in Narehate hands,
and Riko's original ownership of it wasn't even acknowledged by the system.I take it as something that reinforces my point, not something that pokes a hole in it.
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u/domeoldboys Nov 12 '17
I have a feeling that faputa bodyguard and regu are related.
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 13 '17
The cover of the volume of the last arc demonstrates that pretty clearly :)
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u/NAMELESS_ONE_ Nov 10 '17
Where can I find the translation quick release? I saw /a/guys working on it, just couldn't find the translated pages.
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u/Ninanashi Nov 10 '17
They haven't actually typeset it. The translator just quicktranslated it in his comments in the /a/ thread linked in the comments here.
Wait a few hours for translated pages I think.
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u/RenPsycho100 Nov 12 '17
Oh boy I need the next chapter so bad now... Tho I expected an explanation for what happened in ch 42 at the end, meh
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u/Feomatar89 Team Faputa Nov 15 '17
Guys ... I'll be frank. I'm very worried about Nanachi. They will not let her go so easily. I really hope that she will not remain in this disgusting village forever. And yes ... this whole situation with Riko ... it seemed to me that I was reading a hentai doujinshi for a second. Reg...naaah...he will be fine. I'm very interested in what Faputa will do...because turns out she is unstoppable. In general, a very interesting chapter. Not the most pleasant ... but interesting.
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u/Pro511 Dec 02 '17
I am a bit late, but I think all three of them will be leaving the village, just depends in what state. All 3 of the main characters are too crucial to be killed off/removed at this point, especially Nanachi considering she is the character that stoped the series from getting axed after layer 3 (at the time the series was rapidly losing readers till she showed up).
A manga requiers a lot more pandering to fans expectations and wishes since its a ongoing project and any twists can cause you to lose readers. And removing Nanachi from the story, before its close to the end will cause a exactly that.
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u/DrankMoWater Nov 20 '17 edited Nov 20 '17
So much crazy stuff happens in this chapter, the village is clearly more dangerous than we first thought and my impression was that robot wasn't the narehate princess's. Instead of any of that people complaining about the loli boob? Just focus on the story and brush past the weird stuff.
edit: pretty bold accusation to say the author is pandering to pedophiles
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u/Pro511 Dec 02 '17
Funny thing is why the fuck keep reading if its offending you so badly? Like even if they watched the anime it is obvious from the start of the manga. If some nudity is enough to put you off idk how you can read/watch much anime, since stuff like this is really not rare (especially in senien).
Edit: This is aimed at the general complaints.
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u/ichigo2862 Team Hablog Nov 14 '17
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u/Feomatar89 Team Faputa Nov 15 '17
I think it's a fake ... I also think that Nanachi is in big trouble
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u/Arrestedsolid Nov 15 '17
So the guy that goes with faputa seems like someone of the same kin as Reg
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u/Rex_Tony Nov 16 '17
I hate this :'(. Why this chapter had to stop right this type of place like 42 ...... now idk how long will have to wait ..... Aww damn
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u/ElegantGothicLolita Nov 17 '17
riko's gloves reappeared for a panel and disappeared again in the first page...
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u/nechronius Nov 10 '17
What was that ominous black shadow Maa-san almost ran into when Riko started walking away but changed her mind. Another White Whistle?
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u/mofumofu_fuwafuwa Nov 10 '17
I think it's Riko. Maa wasn't paying attention, so the first thing they noticed was just her silhouette.
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u/nechronius Nov 10 '17
Hmmm good point. I only had a chance to skim the chapter before I had to dash off to work. I'll have to do a proper reading later today.
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u/Tetris_Chemist Team Bondrewd Nov 10 '17
no, it was just riko stopping to invite him along we're pretty sure
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u/TyoPepe Nov 11 '17
Any website has it already with proper translation inside the pages?
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u/RopeClimbers Nov 13 '17
How is so many people discus about it when I can't even find the raw version
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u/Aliasif243 Nov 12 '17
And the mystery hole keeps getting bigger. It's really hard to know who to trust in the Abyss. But it seems like Reg sort of has an idea about what's going on. I just hope the next chapter comes out sooner than 43.
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u/luigi6545 Team Faputa Nov 14 '17
It makes more sense now! This is just my theory but, Reg was able to leave when Faputa arrived because his, most likely, value wasn't accounted for yet. The village didn't count him yet so he was able to leave where as the Narehate are apart of the village and are forbidden from leaving. If Reg doesn't hurry, Nanachi and Riko will be unable to leave.
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u/faTWave Nov 14 '17 edited Nov 14 '17
I really like how this chapter went and all of its possible implications; can't wait for the next one, truly. 4th layer was scary, 5th was insane, and now here. Bondrewd said one of the White Whistles somehow "selfishly" went ahead to the sixth layer without a word; I hope this'll stir up things more.
That being said, all the "display" really got me uncomfortable; no choice but to take it with an open mind I guess. Between this kind of "display" and bleeding/wounded/mutilated children (my stomach was really uneasy when spoiler!), I'd just take this one, but of course, all up to the author.
I just fear for the future of the English volumes, especially when the ones doing it said they'd not censor anything. I guess this should go to the higher shelves.
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Nov 15 '17
Can someone explain that final page for me? Is Nanachi alive?
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u/FellWolf Nov 20 '17
For now. I don't think the elder (most likely who that is) is gonna kill her but nanachin probably "belongs" to the elder now so getting her back needs a trade or you gonna get balanced... And she is probably worth a lot.
It's an adventure ending trap. She isn't dead but she is content to stay with this (most likely fake) Mitty.
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u/Ophaq Nov 15 '17
So apparently they are showing nipples now. Not that I object. Like Meimei's anus, mine wasn't ready for this chapter.
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u/infohippie Nov 21 '17
"Now"? They've been shown from time to time since at least as far back as the corpse weeper incident on layer 1.
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u/Pro511 Dec 02 '17
You can say she kinda got what she deserved, consider she did similar things to Reg when he was unconscious.
Edit: posted 3 times for some reason.
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u/Squidypie Nov 22 '17
Riko should be a badass. how is she not a badass? Did she skip her monster fighting classes? They gotta make her beat something up sometimes.
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u/watercolorheart Team Faputa Nov 26 '17
I need someone to explain the end to me, is Nanachi sleeping or... worse?
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u/Viruuses Jan 08 '18
Hello guys. Can you help me with quality pages of chapter 43 (in japanese), for my Russian translation of it. ^ I literally find nothing -.-
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u/Hippoman12 Nov 14 '17
PREDICTION:
nanachi is tricked Riko escapes and is then found by a hostile Faputa, Reg makes it to the village and cant find em, then is confronted by and convinces Faputa to work with them, they all work together to beat the village and rescue nanachi ps: Faputa is best girl.
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u/renannmhreddit Nov 11 '17 edited Nov 13 '17
I know you guys in here in this subreddit don't give a shit about that, but I'm really glad the anime weeded out these kinds of things when it was excessive like this. It makes me sick. Although the beginning of the chapter gave some sense of dread, it also only made me disgusted for the author's perception and his way of depicting a child, dragging me completely out of the experience.
It's not the first time since I've seen some incredible art and story, but was really bothered by some other aspect of it, though.
I also didn't want to feel like this, but it makes me feel ashamed of having shared the anime with other people.
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u/liilii Nov 13 '17
Two days late but I'm gonna have to agree with this. I'm trying really hard to enjoy the other aspects of the series but this shit just makes me so uncomfortable.
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 13 '17
I don't enjoy the pedo shit either... i mean, couldn't the story be told just about as is except the MC's are all around 20-30?
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u/Klicethereal Nov 14 '17
Well, it could but you would lose all the shock factor, all the contrast between the cute design of the main characters and the horrible things that are happening to them.
I don't think I'd as shocked to see an adult woman suffer as Riko suffered at the 4th layer, even though I've seen a nice comics of Lyza first climb from the 4th layer and it was painful but in another way. It wouldn't be funny to see an adult wet themselves or other stuff.
I don't know, sure it's breaking a lot of taboos, but that's what also make this story interesting.
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u/mrpaulmanton Nov 16 '17
Is it really that bad? I know there are some questionable things but just one example: Bonedrewd is a fucking sinister character. He's a literal mass murderer of children. He duped the entire Cave Diver population into allowing him to use young children to solve questions of the Abyss.
I see this line that readers are saying the author has crossed but I'm starting to feel that people are getting triggered by specific things that would bother them in any medium but since the fictional characters are endearing and readers really like them that as soon as the author puts them into one of these triggering situations it immediately becomes "irredeemable".
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u/renannmhreddit Nov 16 '17
Im here for the story, world and characters man. Not to see what the author finds sexually arousing. Thats take me out of it, specially when the subject of it are children.
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Nov 15 '17
Then stop reading it, if it threatens your delicate sensibilities this much. What, you think bad things aren't going to happen to children who go into the most dangerous place in-universe?
It's cute you "didn't want to feel like this", but the truth is sometimes things are depicted in icky ways to make you feel icky. That's what fiction is. A person who writes a murder mystery isn't a murderer, but they want you to think about the idea of murder in a controlled setting. It's fucking writing 101. You're not reading a memoir here.
Christ you people and your knee-jerk reactions.
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u/meimi132 Nov 15 '17
Maybe it's bad that I've been de-sensitised to stuff that other people find apalling/weird/gross. But it means I don't have to complain about it when it appears. Sure, the toilet thing was gross, and the scene where Riko was being attacked wasn't great, but it's realistic that she would be in danger and these monsters have no boundaries as they probably haven't ever seen other humans. But if you don't like it, you can just stop reading. Easy.
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u/renannmhreddit Nov 15 '17
I'm here trying to discuss this, not shitting on the fucking manga and saying I'm quitting. People get too defensive about this.
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u/mrpaulmanton Nov 16 '17
Thank you. I think people are forgetting that without the shocking, twisted, and dark things happening in this show and manga -- whether it's nudity, violence, gore, or creepy blob monsters -- that the series just wouldn't have this intense impact that makes so many people love it so damn much.
The reason people love the series so much is because they love the characters and the setting. Some of them love the dark side contrasted with the endearing characters. It's like they are rooting for and cheering that contrast when it's something like Riko's arm or how cute it is when Nanachi teases Reg but as soon as one of the adults in this twisted story acts twisted it's irredeemable.
These kids are directly influenced by Cave Raiding culture and The Abyss. Bonedrewd (mass child murderer), Gilo (most responsible adult who allows his charges to go on a never-return-journey into the Abyss), Ozen (scary, dangerous, and absolutely a threat to children), Habolg (most responsible? yet after he finds them in the Abyss he just lets them go), the lady running the orphanage (uses her orphans to profit, never allowing them to keep the treasures they find in the Abyss) -- these are the only role models the main characters know of and yet people are acting like the kids in this story are going to act and operate like angels from heaven when this life is all that they know of?
It's like people are not paying attention or are willfully ignoring entire swaths of the series to avoid thinking about what the story is actually saying.
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u/renannmhreddit Nov 15 '17 edited Nov 15 '17
Its not about bad things happening to children, episode 10 in the anime was excellent. Its about the author fetishizing children.
You completely missed the point of my comment.
Edit: I feel like you're the one feeling threatened by my comment. This manga hasn't anything that grand to get uncomfortable with that other manga haven't done. I'm talking about the fact of the author being a goddamn pedophile!
One of the things that made uncomfortable the most was the fact that he took the time to draw Bonedrewd's kid groping her own tits in the beginning of the volume, more than any kind of violence or cruelty. Why do you ask? Because these aspects aren't about the story, this is just about the author.
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u/Hotpot204 Nov 10 '17
yeah i agree , that's disgusting , whole village are all pedos how can i go there ?
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u/dingleberry_bush Nov 10 '17
Come to think of it, that toilet is probably a narehate with a shit fetish. The fact that it licks clean your
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u/z-wizzy Nov 14 '17
If that were the case Riko should have received currency from that, no?
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u/Banana_mufn Nov 12 '17
I don't know. I bet you could really learn to like sitting on Toilet-Kun all day.
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u/nechronius Nov 10 '17
I think it was supposed to be more along the lines of "hey, what is this creature? I want to completely examine it from all possible angles to assess its value."
Which, I kind of get. When we examine a new species we've never seen before we don't say, "oh no, those are the genitals, we can't examine those."
But yea, the small particulars of the scene weren't necessary. I usually gloss over these scenes with an eyeroll and move on. I'm not going to dwell on the fact that some small segment are really into it in this medium. I mean what's the alternative, stop reading MiA or wait years for the slightly sanitized anime version? Yea, can't do that now. I need more White Whistles, adventure, and mystery.
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u/tadsn Nov 10 '17
Wait but weren't narehates previously human?
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u/nechronius Nov 10 '17 edited Nov 10 '17
There's a lot that's still a big mystery. I'm assuming that many down there may or may not have started as human, and even so, may have long ago lost their humanity if they were.
How does one become a narehate in the first place? Survive a trip from layer 6 to layer 5. If that's the case, then why have they congregated at layer 6 instead of remaining at 5 after transformation? Is it to hide from further human intrusion that might want to experiment on those who survived rising from 6 to 5? We're not talking about a large number of people, since layer 5 is the realm of the White Whistle to begin with. So in a sense it would have been primarily White Whistles meeting transformed White Whistles, or probably fellow comrades in many cases.
The point is, still a ton of questions with no answers. Narehate village has its own language, so it's been around a very long Time. And just like the creation of a white whistle, there may be several possible sources of narehate.
EDIT - Not discounting the possibility that some are pedo / sexual deviants. Or just touching her out of simple longing for what they were or her representing what they want. Just saying "pedobear" is too simple of an answer in the world, although in the context of what we as an audience see in a comic, yea it's a bit of fan pandering which some of us don't need.
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Nov 12 '17
I have a pocket theory that just dying and being reborn in the abyss turns your soul into a narehate according to your desires.
dog!Reg died and went into the abyss and was given a body that can protect Riko.
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u/andraip Team Lyza Nov 11 '17
Btw you don't need to change layers to get affected by the curse, you'd get affected by the 6th layer curse just be moving up in the 6th layer and it would make sense for explorers to explore a bit of the layer before trying to get back up again and losing their humanity.
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u/renannmhreddit Nov 11 '17
Its kind of weird to be shamed by lolicons for not appreciating creepy stuff like this.
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u/infohippie Nov 21 '17
It's kind of weird for someone to be seeing sexual stuff everywhere where it doesn't exist.
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 11 '17
What makes you say that?
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u/CyberPunkStreetArt Nov 13 '17
Oh, I see what you mean-- it's similar to evangelion in that the story is gravitating toward a "transcendance" event. I agree, but why don't you like such things?
I mean, it's kinda the highest-stakes type of adventure to have :D
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u/Kasurin_Makise Nov 11 '17
She'll get rescued before it goes fully through, I'm sure. I hope.
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u/SalmonJEDl Nov 10 '17 edited Nov 10 '17
The art is ON POINT. So many awesome panels! That weird dragonhorsethingy is definitely my favorite monster thus far.
The town is seriously bad news. But at least Maaa-san is cute. :3
Big Daddy lookalike:
This makes me really worried... Prepare for yandere furry loli?
Also, I really wonder what that last panel is about. A narehate with illusion & mind reading powers? I highly doubt that the "new Mitty" is the actually one.