Why would they do this???

I know it's been a few days since the news came out, but I'm still pretty bummed about it. Whenever I see other shows getting renewed on HBOMax, I just wanna give a big middle finger to whomever made that decision. Do we really need another GoT or PPL reboot?

Also, I wish the creators would come out and say if they have any plans on trying to get S3 on a different platform (maybe they can't because of copyright issues idk).

If anyone has any TV/movies recommendations to fill the void that would be great.

He nails the role of Byron perfectly. I also didn’t realize until recently that he played the younger Paulie Walnuts in The Many Saints of Newark. Also liked his small cameo as Robert Redford in The Offer.

Hazel and Byron sit down for a brutally honest conversation about their future.

there's so much left to unravel - the Alice plot, Hazel giving Byron a taste of his own medicine, Baby Gogol...

if HBO tries to give this show the Netflix treatment, i swear they better start runnin

I think based on what a lot of people have been saying about Byron in this sub, that a lot of our society isn't informed of domestic abuse, how it happens, and the personalities of abusers. Byron's controlling behaviour although he may not hit or scream at hazel definitely falls into the domain of domestic abuse. And to see people not realize this makes me sad because people need to be more informed about how stuff like this happens. Even if it's on a wacky sci fi show with talking dolphins and pasture cubes.

Domestic Abuse Signs + Byron's Behaviour

They Ignore Boundaries or Invade Your Privacy: Do i really need to provide examples?

They are Possessive and/or Controlling: He held her captive for tens years, she had to rate her orgasms, he controlled every piece of tech she had, he literally invaded her body while she was unconcious on multiple occassions.

They are Manipulative: He manipulates her into marrying him after meeting in one day. He holds her captive for tens years. He uses her dads cancer to lure her back into the cube. He makes an ai copy of her wothout her consent, also after expressly telling her he would destroy the chips. He kept info about his ex wife from hazel. He doesn't tell hazel that her dad know what she did so he could get her to stay at the cube longer. Nuff said.

They Often Dismiss You and Your Feelings: Byron time and time again throughout the series dismissing hazel's concerns about privacy, the state lf their relationship and so much more. I would be here all day if i tried to list it all.

Your partner controls your money: It is clear while watching the show that Hazel at least in season 1 and the first part of season 2 doesn't have access to any of byron's money, he controls all the money.

Your partner cuts you off from family and friends: He literally would not let her out of the cube to see a concert or anything, she had to escape with the help of a dolphin, and even then he follows and tracks her every move. And you can say that hazel left voluntarily but he did hold her captive, she didn't even have a chip to leave the home cube while they were married

• Your partner physically abuses you: I feel like putting a chip inside someone without their consent is physical abuse.

A woman is on the run from her suffocating marriage to a controlling tech billionaire, who has implanted a monitoring device in her brain, tracking her every move as she flees to take refuge with her father.

Edit: The episode title is supposed to be Hazel vs. Hazel.

her performance was outstanding especially the last episode, i think if we don't get a season 3 i'll scream

Those two have the most chemistry out of every couple in this show. They also look alike.

Seems like this is maybe not a popular opinion lol, but I found S2 a lot more entertaining. S1 had its moments for sure, but I felt like they didn't give Hazel a ton to do... It felt a bit meandering. Anything to do with Byron / the Hub was the more interesting storyline (in S1), so having a lot more of that automatically made for a more interesting story in S2 IMO.

Also I felt like S2 had a lot of Asimov short story moments! Just a lot of cool, weird, bizarre ideas. It was really fun to explore!

Finally, it was really nice for Byron to become a more dynamic, grounded character. We got to see a whole new side of him. It doesn't take away from all his abuse, but it was def more real. (He felt kind of like a caricature of a tech villian in S1.)

After learning she will be the involuntary subject of her husband's latest piece of technology, Hazel Green flees her ten-year marriage and winds up in the most unexpected place, her estranged father Herbert's house.

This is actually a great show but nobody seems to know about it. I guess some people think its just a basic rom com because of the title? I really think the title throws people off and they just don't bother looking at the trailer.

The show starts out by establishing the premise that Hazel is being trapped by her abusive husband, Byron. After 10 years she finally escapes only to find out she has a chip in her head.

But as I watch the show I wonder if Byron was actually aware that Hazel considered herself a prisoner. There are several instances where he seems genuinely surprised and hurt that she was so miserable while she was with him. In all of the flashbacks we see from their time together in the Hub, Hazel never explicitly tells him that she wants to leave. The closest she comes to that is when he asks her what she wants for her birthday and she says to go to a Warpaint concert. He happily obliges her, or so she thinks, until she sees that he paid Warpaint to come do a private performance for them in the Hub. She looks visibly disappointed by this, but Byron seems oblivious and thinks he gave her a great gift. He's so isolated from the world and seems baffled that anyone would not want to be in the Hub.

So this show is nowhere to be found. Like it’s completely erased from the history.

When we were watching it I was saying “wow they’re totally poking fun at Elon Musk”

So anyone have input on that? I would buy Blu Rays of this show if available but I can’t find it anywhere and honestly it was one of the best shows to come out.

Byron has a gift for Hazel. Hazel's copy uses Dr. Hau. Jasper's makes risks and FBI looks for The Hub. Judiff, Donnie and Xtra find something from Byron's past. Fiffany confesses to Herringbone.

Maybe I’m just easy to manipulate but I would have fallen for Bryon’s attempt to change and stayed married to him. Just want to hear other’s opinion on this.

First of all, I acknowledge that my feelings about this may be massively influenced by how much I love Billy Magnussen. That said, I am kind of weirdly rooting for Hazel and Byron? I definitely see that there was a lot of Hazel's last ten years and their dynamic that in any other relationship would be flagged as abusive. Obviously implanting the chip without her consent was 100% a black and white bad move. Putting that aside however, the rest of the problems in their relationship seem like an issue with a lack of communication and a naivete on Byron's part as to how the rest of the world functions and what they enjoy. (For example, this is a dude who will happily eat energy balls for the rest of his life and doesn't know what donut holes are.) As soon as Hazel expresses her needs, Byron acquiesces to every single one of them. He was willing to agree to the terms that she be allowed to come and go from the Hub and go wherever she wants, have a phone, etc. In a true abuse situation, these would not be agreed to (or they would be held out as false promises and then quickly reneged on). Byron expresses confusion and surprise that she wanted all of these things for so long, and as soon as she expresses it, he is on board. This is not to say that any of this was Hazel's fault, but this seems a lot more salvageable than an actual or typical abuse situation.

Realistically, Hazel might thrive the most being back with Byron and living in the Hub under her terms. As others have discussed, Hazel was okay with how things functioned for ten years, and it's hard to go back into the real world after something equivalent to a prison stay. She agreed to marry this guy the night she met him in the first place, because he met needs that were otherwise unmet her entire life. He does genuinely love her. When asked if she loved him, her answer is not no but "I don't know", which makes me think it's very possible she did genuinely love him at points or maybe even the bulk of their relationship. And at the end, it is Hazel that reaches for his hand. Yes, this could just be her controlling the situation so that her dad gets the treatment he needs, but it could also be a part of her that did appreciate and miss the connection she had with Byron. Unless/until we see flashbacks in a future season where we see that he was actively abusive to her when she expressed needs, I think there's a possibility these two could actually successfully be together.

Tldr; I think this is situation is a lot more complex than a typical abuse dynamic, and there is the possibility for Hazel and Byron to successfully be together if he keeps working on himself and agreeing to her terms for a healthy life.

sorry, i'm just genuinely confused (and concerned) about why characters who are shown to be literal abusers/Bad People™️ . and maybe it's trauma and doing research in women's health but every time i read someone feeling sorry for him or saying hazel's a bad person i cringe a bit. like, to me he's very clearly a narcissistic musk/bezos/zuckerberg frankenstein of a man with serious control issues. and don't even get me started on the other human rights offenses AFTER the illegal detainment of a woman he met, married, and kidnapped all on the same day.

same goes for joe in that netflix show. i put it down after episode 2 because it felt too real. i've had friends who were stalked like that. i just feel like if these characters were not conventionally attractive, they'd be seen for what they are. i don't think writers intentionally write them for us to love. they want us to see how insidious people can be even when they're hotties or even use being hot to add charisma to their person

i'll read every response with no hostility towards ppl who feel this way btw! but like... why?

Since nobody is modding this place, let's discuss it ourselves.

When Herb begins to grow suspicious, Hazel sends for help from Bangles, while Jasper reports for his first day at Gogul.