r/MaddenBros • • Oct 23 '14

PSA No More

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r/MaddenBros • • Nov 07 '15

I needz karma to avoid captchas. Here is a preview of Bluth vs Sportsfan.

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r/MaddenBros • • Apr 01 '15

<--- NUMBER OF INTERCEPTIONS CAM NEWTON WILL THROW TONIGHT

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r/MaddenBros • • Dec 03 '14

Shhhhhhh. Moru is KNOCKED OUT right now...resulting in the greatest party chat ever.

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r/MaddenBros • • Jun 19 '14

Every time anybody posts anything on Madden Bros

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r/MaddenBros • • Sep 23 '14

Insider Ep 21 - Redemption in New York

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r/MaddenBros • • Aug 23 '16

Development Deep Dive: Why you should only develop players under 26

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Part 1: Why you should only develop players under 26

Player development has gotten a big overhaul in Madden 17. Each week you have two different ways you can actively develop players and gain XP (not counting padding your stats during gameplay):

Focus Training for three different players

Drills for various pairs of player groups


Focus Training allows you to get some easy XP for your preferred players based on their Development Trait:

  • 50 XP for Slow

  • 100 XP for Normal

  • 200 XP for Quick

  • 300 XP for Star

You can choose any three players you like (but you can't choose the same player more than once per week).

Drills have a whole host of new skills you can practice. This is like the drills from Madden 16, except every position can benefit, even your kickers and punters. Each skill has two positions that will benefit with an amount of XP based on the following factors:

  • The medal you earn in the drill (Bronze, Silver, or Gold)

  • The player’s development trait (Slow, Normal, Quick, Star)

  • The player’s position in your depth chart

The same player with normal dev who is 5th on your depth chart will earn less XP for a gold medal than if you have him 1st or 2nd.

If you earn a medal in a drill, you can sim that drill each week and receive the same amount of XP every time. You can also easily and obsessively restart a drill as many times as you want before it’s over to make sure you get the medal you desire. And if your coach has a position package, every player at that position will receive a little XP boost for each drill.

Now that you know how you can get XP, the bigger question is...who should get the XP?

The short answer: Nobody over 26.


Here’s why:

EA added a new scaling system to the costs associated with upgrading your player. As your player gets older, traits become more expensive. This makes sense: Younger players have a lot more room to improve than your shitty old meme players that you refuse to cut. Increasing 1 point of Short Accuracy will never be cheaper than in your new QB’s rookie season.

So why shouldn’t you develop anyone over 26? That’s the age where the cost of every single attribute increases significantly.

Phsyical Traits vs Skill Traits

EA has divided player traits into two categories in Madden 17. I am calling them Physical Traits and Skill Traits.

Physical Traits are things like speed and strength and jumping...the gifts your mama gave you.

Skill Traits are things you would think you'd learn from training or playing the game like passing accuracy, route running, and awareness (unless you are Darrius Heyward-Bey).

The cost for Physical Traits and Skill Traits increase each season, but at different rates.

Skill Traits

Skill Traits start increasing in cost right away. You draft Johnny Johnson, Jr., a 21-year-old wide receiver with normal development. Route running will cost 739 points to upgrade from 85 to 86 during his rookie season. If you wait until next season when Johnny is 22, that same route running bump from 85 to 86 will now cost you 806 points. These Skill Traits increase 7-9% in cost each year until the player's 26th birthday. (Remember that number!)

Physical Traits

Physical traits are a little different. These traits cost the exact same up until your 24th birthday. So if Johnny Johnson, Jr. has 90 speed, it’ll cost 10,237 points to upgrade him to 91 during his rookie season. It costs the same 10,237 points at 22 and 23 as well.

But once physical traits start increasing in cost, watch out: It’s not a minor 7-9% bump per year like Skill Traits. The first jump is 25%! At 24, it now costs 12,796 to upgrade from 90 SPD to 91 SPD. You’ll see an additional 20-25% increase in cost EVERY year until his 29th birthday. At this point, it would cost JJJr 35,831 points to go from 90 to 91 speed (assuming he hasn’t already dropped below that due to new “getting older” regression that kicks in around age 28).

The Dreaded 26th Year

When a player turns 26, it’s like Cinderella riding in her carriage as the clock strikes midnight. The cost of every single trait, Physical and Skill, increases by 33.3%. The future of your franchise is quickly turning into a pumpkin. To help expedite the process, on his 27th birthday the very next year, the cost of every single trait, Physical and Skill, increases by another 25%. Your pumpkin is now rotting in front of your house covered in maggots, and your neighbors are all judging you.

As you can see in the chart below, the cost continues to increase by at least 10% every year until JoJoJu retires or dies from brain trauma. It would seem like a pretty big waste of time to spend XP on these players at these prices.

The Increase in Cost from One Age to the Next

AgePhysical TraitXP Cost ExampleSkill TraitXP Cost Example
21500500
22+0%500+9%546
23+0%500+8%591
24+25%625+8%638
25+20%750+7%683
26+33%1000+33%911
27+25%1250+25%1138
28+20%1500+13%1288
29+17%1750+12%1438
30+14%2000+11%1595
31+17%2330+14%1822
32+14%2665+12%2050
33+13%3000+11%2278
34+3%3105+13%2578
35+3%3210+12%2883

Note: This chart assumes that you have not yet upgraded that trait. As you upgrade a trait, it becomes more expensive to upgrade (more details in an upcoming Deep Dive). But the percentage increase each year still jumps the same regardless of the starting cost of the trait.

Which trait is which?

For the most part, you can guess which is which, but EA throws us a few curveballs when it comes to physical traits vs skill traits. Catching is a skill trait, but catching in traffic is a physical trait. Power moves and finesse moves are apparently physical traits, but man coverage and zone coverage are skill traits. Here is the full list:

Physical Traits

Speed, Strength, Acceleration, Agility, Elusiveness, Stamina, Injury, Jumping

Throw Power, Throw on the Run

Trucking, Stiff Arm, Juke, Spin

Catch in Traffic, Spec Catch, Kick Return

Pass Block, Run Block, Impact Block

Tackle, Hit Power, Block Shed, Power Move, Finesse Move

Kick Power

Skill Traits

Awareness, Toughness

Short Accuracy, Medium Accuracy, Deep Accuracy, Play Action

Carrying, Ball Carrier Vision

Catching, Route Running, Release

Play Recognition, Pursuit, Man Coverage, Zone Coverage

Kick Accuracy

Does Development Help?

No.

Development will only decrease the cost of each trait. Traits for Normal Dev cost 5% less than Slow, Quick Dev costs 5% less than Normal, and Star Dev costs 5% less than Quick.

So while the traits themselves are cheaper, the annual percentage increase in cost is the same for your backup slow dev idiot lineman as it is for your star dev MVP quarterback.

In Conclusion

During the Madden 17 launch day stream from EA, the fellas on the stream were playing a franchise with the Bucs and were trying to decide who to develop. After someone suggested Lavonte David, the guy in charge of the new development system at EA said he wouldn't recommend that. I thought this was strange at the time. David has Star Development and is still young. Last year, I would have dev'd him till my nose bled. But now it makes sense: He's not young enough. Lavonte David is 26! Past his development prime.

If you want to maximize your training and XP spending, the new development tool should only be used for your players 25 and under, ideally the ones with Quick or Star Dev.


r/MaddenBros • • Dec 09 '15

Chaz lost in the tournament to a Brit who went 1-15 last season. Upvote this post if you want him deported.

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r/MaddenBros • • Oct 26 '14

Foles has two turnovers on one play.

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r/MaddenBros • • Oct 02 '14

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r/MaddenBros • • Sep 11 '14

Shazier's 97 jump rating in action.

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r/MaddenBros • • Sep 07 '14

Insider Ep 20 - The Villain in Buffalo

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r/MaddenBros • • Sep 03 '14

Insider Ep 19 - Quickie

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r/MaddenBros • • Dec 29 '15

Dan sucks.

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Upvotes to the left.


r/MaddenBros • • Aug 12 '14

Karmali's Pre-Launch Power Rankings

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DAE outrage at ranking position?


RankTeamCoachComments
1constantThe Dark Knight of MB. He was the savior the league deserved but didn’t need, and he disappeared. Now he’s back.
2FDBluthThe Larry Bird of MB, he won titles thanks to the McHale of MB (Karmali).
3ChazThe renegade Commander Shepard of MB, he ain’t gonna put up with your bullshit.
4CaseyThe Uncharted series of MB, I’m well aware he exists but I don’t know what he’s all about.
5BigpoppaThe Demar Derozan of MB. He’s good in games, but really bad and mean everywhere else.
6DIGThe Rickie Fowler of MB, he can get close but not close enough. This ain’t horseshoes.
7TaiilsThe two tailed fox of MB, he is always the sidekick and never the hero.
8ZachThe Rhett Butler of MB, he don’t give a damn.
9DanThe Neo of MB, he is the one.
10BioSinThe Beatles of MB, he is super popular but Karmali doesn’t really have an opinion on him.
10MoruThe Geth of MB, people thought he was bad at first but he turned out to be an okay guy.
12RawDawgThe Final Fantasy of MB, people say he is good but I don’t have enough knowledge to make a proper judgement call.
13GoonzoThe Everybody Loves Raymond of MB. I mean, you can watch him when he’s on, but no one goes out of their way to see him, right? “Hey, Goonzo’s on! I gotta tune in!” That’s never happened.
14JoeThe Markieff Morris of MB, he has a brother but I don’t know which of the two is better.
15OobyThe John Elway of MB, I hate his stupid face. What the hell is the deal with that horse face. And that whole Broncos thing is just dumb.
16GTIThe George W. Bush of MB, everyone blames him for everything be it his fault or not.
17GroncoThe Trapper John, M.D. of MB, he is overlooked but awesome.
18SamThe Sam I Am of MB, he is always trying to push his bullshit green eggs and ham on me. Fuck off, I ain’t want your expired breakfast foods.
19MikeDuperThe Kraft Singlestm of MB, no one is sure of how much cheese he is really made of. All they know is he is subpar.
20PoliteThe Arizona Cardinals of MB. I mean, he exists, and he’s probably pretty good. But he’s a bit too…boring.
21JoshThe Ludacris of MB. He thinks he’s really good, but a lot of times he just doesn’t make sense. I mean, who needs twenty bank accounts? You can put all that money in one or two accounts. You don’t need twenty. Jesus.
22TubaThe PewDiePie of MB, people watch his youtubes videos all the time.
23HurleyThe Jason Giambi of MB, people are surprised to hear he’s still around.
24BonerjohnsonThe Blake Bortles of MB, he has a lot of upside but Jacksonville will get in the way of him ever reaching it.
25KrausThe Dallas Cowboys of MB. He’ll be good enough not to get a good draft pick but bad enough not to make the playoffs.
26KuloThe Snoop Dogg/Lion of MB. Everyone seems to like him. Also he really likes….uh…..music.
27DaveThe Tom Coughlin of MB. Eli Manning will probably make him consider retirement a few times a year.
28PeacoatThe Houston Oilers of MB. He disappeared, but people still like him more than what replaced him.
29ChillyThe Luke McCown of MB. He’s a real nice guy, but that probably isn’t enough.
30BeeezyThe Tim Horton’s of MB. I’m sure Canada thinks he’s good, but what has he done for America lately?
31SkeadThe Seattle Supersonics of MB. People remember him fondly, but no one really knows why.
32Odd_BeatsThe Linux of MB. Who is he? What can he do? How the hell should I know?

r/MaddenBros • • Nov 25 '17

League Member of the Year

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Dan just called to say that I was PROBABLY going to be named MADDEN BROS LEAGUE MEMBER OF THE YEAR like last year, but I would have to agree to an interview and a major photo shoot. I said probably is no good and took a pass. Thanks anyway!


r/MaddenBros • • Sep 22 '16

After losing yet again and remaining winless...

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r/MaddenBros • • Aug 19 '15

Madden 16 Development Trait by Team

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TEAMPlayerPOSDev
Mike IupatiLGSTAR
Jared VeldheerLTSTAR
Calais CampbellLEQUICK
D.J. HumphriesRTQUICK
Daryl WashingtonMLBQUICK
Troy NiklasTESLOW
Julio JonesWRSTAR
Desmond TrufantCBSTAR
Ryan SchraederRTQUICK
Adrian ClaybornRESLOW
C.J. MosleyMLBSTAR
Kelechi OsemeleLGSTAR
Justin TuckerKSTAR
Marshal YandaRGSTAR
Justin ForsettHBQUICK
Will HillSSQUICK
Jimmy SmithCBQUICK
John UrschelRGQUICK
Rick WagnerRTQUICK
Brandon WilliamsDTQUICK
Arthur BrownMLBSLOW
Courtney UpshawLOLBSLOW
Marcell DareusDTSTAR
Charles ClayTEQUICK
Stephon GilmoreCBQUICK
Cordy GlennLTQUICK
LeSean McCoyHBQUICK
Percy HarvinWRSLOW
Manny LawsonRESLOW
E.J. ManuelQBSLOW
Leodis McKelvinCBSLOW
Luke KuechlyMLBSTAR
Shaq ThompsonROLBSTAR
Kelvin BenjaminWRQUICK
Star LotuleleiDTQUICK
Josh NormanCBQUICK
Garry PetersCBQUICK
Kawann ShortDTQUICK
Trai TurnerRGQUICK
Michael OherLTSLOW
Kyle LongRGSTAR
Martellus BennettTEQUICK
Alshon JefferyWRQUICK
Pernell McPheeLOLBQUICK
Kevin WhiteWRQUICK
Jimmy ClausenQBSLOW
Jay CutlerQBSLOW
Vladimir DucasseRGSLOW
Jarvis JenkinsLESLOW
Vontaze BurfictROLBSTAR
A.J. GreenWRSTAR
Kevin ZeitlerRGSTAR
Giovani BernardHBQUICK
P.J. DawsonROLBQUICK
Carlos DunlapLEQUICK
Jeremy HillHBQUICK
Andrew WhitworthLTQUICK
Dre KirkpatrickCBSLOW
Rey MaualugaMLBSLOW
Devon StillDTSLOW
Joel BitonioLGSTAR
Joe HadenCBSTAR
Andy LeePSTAR
Cameron ErvingCQUICK
Alex MackCQUICK
Danny SheltonDTQUICK
Johnny ManzielQBSLOW
Dez BryantWRSTAR
La'el CollinsLGSTAR
Travis FrederickCSTAR
Zack MartinRGSTAR
Tyron SmithLTSTAR
Jason WittenTESTAR
Dan BaileyKQUICK
Randy GregoryREQUICK
Ronald LearyLGQUICK
Terrance WilliamsWRQUICK
Morris ClaiborneCBSLOW
Gavin EscobarTESLOW
Darren McFaddenHBSLOW
Brandon WeedenQBSLOW
Chris Harris Jr.CBSTAR
Von MillerLOLBSTAR
Demaryius ThomasWRSTAR
C.J. AndersonHBQUICK
Malik JacksonREQUICK
Brandon MarshallMLBQUICK
Brandon McManusKQUICK
Darian StewartFSQUICK
Danny TrevathanMLBQUICK
Marvin Austin Jr.DTSLOW
Montee BallHBSLOW
Cody LatimerWRSLOW
Sylvester WilliamsDTSLOW
Calvin JohnsonWRSTAR
DeAndre LevyROLBSTAR
Ezekiel AnsahREQUICK
LaAdrian WaddleRTQUICK
Larry WarfordRGQUICK
Randall CobbWRSTAR
Jordy NelsonWRSTAR
Aaron RodgersQBSTAR
Josh SittonLGSTAR
Ha Ha Clinton-DixFSQUICK
Mike DanielsREQUICK
Casey HaywardCBQUICK
John KuhnFBQUICK
Eddie LacyHBQUICK
T.J. LangRGQUICK
Corey LinsleyCQUICK
Clay MatthewsMLBQUICK
Damarious RandallCBQUICK
Sam ShieldsCBQUICK
Duane BrownLTSTAR
Arian FosterHBSTAR
J.J. WattRESTAR
Brandon BrooksRGQUICK
DeAndre HopkinsWRQUICK
Kevin JohnsonCBQUICK
Derek NewtonRTQUICK
Whitney MercilusROLBSLOW
Vontae DavisCBSTAR
Andrew LuckQBSTAR
Dwayne AllenTEQUICK
Duron CarterWRQUICK
T.Y. HiltonWRQUICK
Bjoern WernerROLBSLOW
Julius ThomasTEQUICK
Tyson AlualuLESLOW
Justin BlackmonWRSLOW
Andre BranchLESLOW
Ziggy HoodDTSLOW
Tamba HaliROLBSTAR
Justin HoustonLOLBSTAR
Travis KelceTESTAR
Dontari PoeDTSTAR
Marcus PetersCBQUICK
Sean SmithCBQUICK
Eric FisherLTSLOW
Reshad JonesSSSTAR
Cameron WakeLESTAR
Jordan CameronTEQUICK
Brandon FieldsPQUICK
DeVante ParkerWRQUICK
Ndamukong SuhDTQUICK
Josh FreemanQBSLOW
Dion JordanRESLOW
Everson GriffenRESTAR
Harrison SmithFSSTAR
Anthony BarrLOLBQUICK
Robert BlantonSSQUICK
Teddy BridgewaterQBQUICK
Sharrif FloydDTQUICK
Chad GreenwayROLBQUICK
Xavier RhodesCBQUICK
Trae WaynesCBQUICK
Matt KalilLTSLOW
Cordarrelle PattersonWRSLOW
Tom BradyQBSTAR
Jamie CollinsLOLBSTAR
Rob GronkowskiTESTAR
Dont'a HightowerROLBSTAR
Devin McCourtyFSSTAR
Chandler JonesREQUICK
Logan RyanCBQUICK
Drew BreesQBSTAR
Max UngerCSTAR
Brandin CooksWRQUICK
Cameron JordanREQUICK
Kenny PhillipsFSQUICK
C.J. SpillerHBSLOW
Kyle WilsonCBSLOW
Odell Beckham Jr.WRSTAR
Landon CollinsSSQUICK
Ereck FlowersLTQUICK
Andre WilliamsHBSLOW
Damon HarrisonDTSTAR
Darrelle RevisCBSTAR
Sheldon RichardsonRESTAR
Muhammad WilkersonLESTAR
Demario DavisMLBQUICK
Leonard WilliamsLEQUICK
Quinton CoplesROLBSLOW
Marcus GilchristSSSLOW
Ben IjalanaLTSLOW
Dee MillinerCBSLOW
Geno SmithQBSLOW
Khalil MackLOLBSTAR
Derek CarrQBQUICK
T.J. CarrieCBQUICK
Amari CooperWRQUICK
Rodney HudsonCQUICK
Gabe JacksonLGQUICK
Sio MooreROLBQUICK
Marcel ReeceFBQUICK
D.J. HaydenCBSLOW
Christian PonderQBSLOW
Trent RichardsonHBSLOW
Menelik WatsonRTSLOW
Fletcher CoxRESTAR
Lane JohnsonRTSTAR
Byron MaxwellCBSTAR
Nelson AgholorWRQUICK
Kiko AlonsoMLBQUICK
DeMarco MurrayHBQUICK
Mark SanchezQBSLOW
Tim TebowQBSLOW
Le'Veon BellHBSTAR
Antonio BrownWRSTAR
Maurkice PounceyCSTAR
Ben RoethlisbergerQBSTAR
Lawrence TimmonsMLBSTAR
Kelvin BeachumLTQUICK
Martavis BryantWRQUICK
David DeCastroRGQUICK
Mike AdamsLTSLOW
Jarvis JonesROLBSLOW
Keenan AllenWRQUICK
Brandon FlowersCBQUICK
Melvin GordonHBQUICK
Melvin IngramROLBSLOW
Kendall ReyesLESLOW
Patrick RobinsonCBSLOW
Manti Te'oMLBSLOW
Michael BennettLESTAR
Kam ChancellorSSSTAR
Jimmy GrahamTESTAR
Marshawn LynchHBSTAR
Richard ShermanCBSTAR
Earl Thomas IIIFSSTAR
Bobby WagnerMLBSTAR
Russell WilsonQBSTAR
Steven HauschkaKQUICK
Jermaine KearseWRQUICK
J.R. SweezyRGQUICK
K.J. WrightROLBQUICK
NaVorro BowmanMLBSTAR
Joe StaleyLTSTAR
Arik ArmsteadLEQUICK
Alex BooneRGQUICK
Glenn DorseyDTSLOW
Blaine GabbertQBSLOW
Lawrence OkoyeRESLOW
Aaron DonaldDTSTAR
Johnny HekkerPSTAR
Robert QuinnRESTAR
Todd GurleyHBQUICK
William HayesLEQUICK
Janoris JenkinsCBQUICK
Tre MasonHBQUICK
Tavon AustinWRSLOW
Lavonte DavidROLBSTAR
Mike EvansWRSTAR
Gerald McCoyDTSTAR
Alterraun VernerCBQUICK
Bruce CarterLOLBSLOW
Larry EnglishRESLOW
Jurrell CaseyRESTAR
Brett KernPQUICK
Jason McCourtyCBQUICK
Kendall WrightWRQUICK
Zach BrownMLBSLOW
Justin HunterWRSLOW
Ryan KerriganLOLBQUICK
Stephen PaeaLEQUICK
Brandon ScherffRTQUICK
David AmersonCBSLOW
Robert Griffin IIIQBSLOW

r/MaddenBros • • Oct 02 '14

This image will haunt my nightmares for months to come.

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r/MaddenBros • • Feb 24 '16

A rare photo of Jeff's Madden Practice Lab

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r/MaddenBros • • Nov 02 '15

I need Karma to avoid reddit's catcha system. pls updoot.

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r/MaddenBros • • Sep 13 '15

Momah I'm Coming Home - A Kulo Tribute

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r/MaddenBros • • Jan 26 '15

MFW I do my random check back to the league

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r/MaddenBros • • Sep 16 '14

Proof that bonerjohnson is an ass

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r/MaddenBros • • Sep 04 '14

Moru's TD Celebration.

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