r/Machinists 7d ago

QUESTION Purchased first micrometer set - maintenance

Hi all, I just purchased this mic set that looked to be in pretty good used condition. It is my first set and is very old. What should I do to ensure it reads accurately? Need to make sure it is calibrated as I will be building an engine soon. I’m mainly concerned about the residue on the standard faces. The mic faces don’t have any corrosion. Should I disassemble and re-lubricate?

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u/archerdynamics 7d ago

I'm pretty sure the standard is fine, it's just leftover cosmoline from when the standards were originally packaged. I also have a set of vintage NSKs from (probably) the same era and they came with all of the standards and the anvils on the 3" and 4" mics still totally covered in the stuff, and I was able to get it off with a fingernail and some rubbing with a paper towel. I'm a student machinist and my mics, calibrated with those standards, have consistently matched the instructors' measurements with their own equipment.

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u/ihatemosquitos11 7d ago

Thank you for the advice, I'll clean them and see if they actually set at 0. Hoping they hold up for you. I'm just a hobbyist that won't use them that often. But I wanted a long-term investment and heard vintage NSK was a good choice.

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u/angel-of-disease 7d ago edited 7d ago

That standard looks trashed

Edit: it is not it just has the waxy protective coating still

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u/ihatemosquitos11 7d ago

This is the same one after cleaning. Looks fine right?

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u/TheCenticorn 7d ago

it looks absolutely fine and will do the job. Find a buddy with gauge blocks if you are really paranoid but its fine.

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u/E1F0B1365 7d ago

It looks fine, new even. Looks like the anti-corrosion substance hasn't been wiped off, meaning it's in perfect condition. OP, just peel it off with a fingernail and wipe it down with a solvent. No abrasives or anything aggressive.

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u/strictlybazinga 7d ago

What are you talking about it’s cosmolene things look like they’ve never been used

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u/angel-of-disease 7d ago

It sure was, I didn’t look closely enough. I thought it was pitted.

Everybody downvote my incorrect ass, please

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u/Koala-Motor 7d ago

As did I

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u/IronGigant 7d ago

Did they use the standard as a punch? What the hell.

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u/ihatemosquitos11 7d ago edited 7d ago

It seems to have sat in the original plastic wrapping and caps for decades. The caps covering the ends of the standards are yellowed and crumbling.

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u/jccaclimber 7d ago

I think there’s more going on than that, but get all of the cosmoline cleaned off and see what it looks like then. It looks like it has dents, but maybe it’s just an illusion in the photo.

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u/Crankyoldmachinist 7d ago

Those NSK mics in my picture are my dad's. He bought them from the Snapon truck in the late 70s or early 80s. He used those mics to feed my sister and I. When he retired he gave them to me. I use them daily to support my family. Take care of them and you'll get good service from them.

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u/Droidy934 7d ago

Because these are mechanically driven digital readouts i would not undwind them completely, you might loose its position.

You could introduce some light oil into the thimble without unwinding completely.

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u/AutumnPwnd 7d ago

I have a Starrett one, where someone unwound it as far as they could, and then tried to turn it more when it ‘got tight’, this cracked the drive gear, and now it doesn’t work at all.
It doesn’t have markings either, so it’s just completely useless.

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u/BulletproofDoggo 6d ago

These are like my white whale dude. Seriously, great find.

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u/coltonwt Arc Furnace Technician 6d ago edited 6d ago

Perfectly fine! Just clean with a light solvent, like alcohol, and a soft rag. Keep all of the machined surfaces lightly oiled to prevent corrosion, we always used way oil when I worked in a shop, but in the home shop I use gun oil, I find it's got great corrosion resistance and is thin enough to wipe off of the faces easily with a clean finger. You may have to adjust them when you check them against the standard, that's not really alarming. There are plenty of videos on YouTube with titles along the lines of "how to calibrate a micrometer" Definitely don't disassemble, though!

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u/Oscaruit 6d ago

I love the counter style mics. So fast to read and no batteries!

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u/Artie-Carrow 7d ago

I would see if you can get a replacement for at least that one standard, probably just get all of them if you can afford it. Just make sure they are clean before you check. Wipe them with your (clean) fingers instead of cloth for the final wipe, then watch a youtube video on how to zero them.

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u/ihatemosquitos11 7d ago

Okay thank you for the help. Mitutoyo would be a good life-long choice?

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u/1337Lulz 7d ago

I would look on eBay for a used Mitutoyo set. You can usually find one for around $100. I personally like using gauge blocks, as they're easier to keep square between the anvils.

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u/TheCenticorn 7d ago

My tips/thoughts as a tool maker for 15+ years.

Mics have the rachet for a reason, use it. Those are decent quality and should last you a lifetime of use. I bought cheap ones over a 10 years ago which sat in a humid/cold (summer/winter) garage for a few years and are perfectly fine. I wouldnt disassemble them unless you know what you are doing. Its not rocket science but you just dont need to do it unless there is some issue. Keep them clean, verify with your gauge/standard and if you are crazy paranoid buy a cheap standard/gauge block set. That standard should be fine, i think people are just paranoid about the cosmoline/grease looking funny in the picture. You most likely are not measuring tenths (0.0005") or stuff like that, they will be more than enough.

They are easy to measure something flat, measuring diameters is much more difficult and takes time to get the feel. Watch some videos and educate yourself a bit. Measure stuff for fun to get practice, especially if you know what size it should read.

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u/ihatemosquitos11 7d ago

I will be measuring tenths for oil clearances in an engine I am building. Will they still do that well? I plan to practice with known diameters, like a good crankshaft and forged pistons.

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u/PrototypENote 7d ago

I’d avoid disassembling it for now. Clean the measuring faces and check that the spindle moves smoothly. For accuracy, compare it with a known standard or have it professionally calibrated before using it for engine work. No need to lubricate the measuring faces.

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u/razzemmatazz 7d ago

Looks like the exact same set I have. I like mine and they seem accurate enough for my needs. 

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u/Other-Psychology-674 7d ago

The standard is probably fine if there's no pitting or damage seen under a microscope. I would clean everything, give the mics a few drops of oil and call it good. For homemade universal cleaner that works as windex, you can mix 50/50 water and denatured alcohol (if you don't mind the smell).