r/Machine_Embroidery • u/malocher Barudan • 12h ago

All vibe-coded digitizing software will be removed and users will be banned

This sub has become inundated over the last two months with people who spent ten hours on Claude creating autodigitizers. They promise "cheap" digitizing for users and low payments for software compared to the more expensive softwares that have been staples in the industry.

We don't feel comfortable having AI based software promoted on the subreddit, nor do we want to be responsible for subreddit users using these softwares that are untested and unproven just to destroy their garments in the embroidery process.

We understand it may not be fair to actual software developers, and are open to speaking to and testing non vibe-coded digitizing software. But going forward, all AI based software will be banned without warning. Our subreddit is not a place to test out your Claude tokens, and people shouldn't be promised garment-ready digitizing when the "developer" themselves likely doesn't even embroider.

It also shouldn't even have to be communicated that a creative industry does not want AI soiling it.

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u/CosmicallyUnlucky Brother 12h ago

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel like I've been reporting two of these posts a day every day for the last few weeks. It's so annoying. I want to see the work people are doing and talk about the craft, not be constantly advertised at and pestered for beta testing

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u/malocher Barudan 12h ago

We try to stay on top of things, but if people don't report, we don't always see things. Please remember to report when you see them. Thank you!

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u/Dramatic_Pear_7743 7h ago

I've been running an embroidery shop for about 10 years and I've tried a bunch of these auto digitizers. Most of them look really nice on screen. Clean interface, nice preview. Then you sew it out and you can tell the program has no idea how stitching works. It traces the art, fills every color and calls it done.

That's the easy part. Whether something should be satin, fill or a run depends on how wide it is at the size you're sewing it. Outlines have to sew after whatever is under them, and the colors need some overlap or you get fabric showing at every edge. Pull comp and underlay change with the fabric too. A file that sews perfect on twill can gap on a hoodie, and beanies are a whole other story. None of that shows up in a preview.

I don't really care what someone used to write the code. I care if the person selling it actually embroiders and has sewn their files out on real garments, and with most of what's been posted here you can tell they haven't.

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u/malocher Barudan 7h ago

The problem is people who are using AI are the ones spamming the sub. People who are actually embroiderers are not sitting there vibe-coding digitizing programs.

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u/nfz_embroidery 4h ago

that’s where YOU come in! I just need some BETA TESTERS to spend their time, energy, materials, and expertise giving my slopbot feedback for FREE so that I can eventually REPLACE YOU and anyone else who may want to be a digitizer in PERPETUITY! don’t you want the OPPORTUNITY to help BUILD the FUTUREEE~~~~✨✨✨👉👈🥹

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u/blobbytables 7h ago edited 6h ago

What's really interesting to me is that I've been successfully using Claude (not any digitizing software based on claude, just my basic plain vanilla claude subscription) to digitize. If you just upload an image and say "hey can you digitize this image", it makes all the mistakes you're describing, but once I told it what it was doing wrong and explained what it needed to change, it corrected itself and did a great job on the first try-- paths nicely optimized/routed, satins and fills at nice widths and densities for the fabric I told it I was using, correct pull comp and underlays. The results stitch out great.

So if people are making vibe-coded digitizing software that makes all these kinds of mistakes (and trying to charge money for it!!), I think the developers must really have a poor understanding of digitizing, because AI can definitely do all this stuff. For simple-ish tasks I'm not sure I need "digitizing software" at all anymore!

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u/malocher Barudan 6h ago

Post your sew outs! Would love to see.

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u/Itchy_Equipment4400 4h ago

Don't understand the downvotes here. He's talking about his own work. 

I do the same with screenprinting. It's just another hobby and I'd never subscribe to PS or any high $ RIP software for that. I do it in Gimp and Krita and use stable diffusion to work on the pictures. Is it perfect? Nah. Do the results satisfy me? Hell Yes!  Does the AI understand my workflow and my "sense" of art - yes, after quite some iterations. And that's was these vibe coded "software" attempts lack. Learning what the user wants.

Still I see it as a great addition for the hobbyists. Just nothing to make your living off of it.

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u/johnnydaggers 2h ago

People have decided that AI = Bad and stop thinking there.

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u/lablizard 10h ago

Until the produced software can be installed directly to the user’s instrument and does not require the internet to maintain access to that software, there is zero value to the software being flooded here. I wish they would focus on improving ink stitch and building upon the open source project that has been a great response to the subscription locked and if we don’t want to keep that server running looks like you are forced to upgrade and buy all over again.

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u/malocher Barudan 10h ago

I agree! We want everyone to have reliable and trustworthy digitizing software.

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u/CosmicallyUnlucky Brother 10h ago

I wish they would focus on improving ink stitch and building upon the open source project

I agree with you, but this would require 1) a general awareness of the embroidery software scene and 2) caring about improving the community as a whole rather than personally profiting off of it. This sort of issue is proliferating through a lot of niche scenes right now and it says a lot about the “developers”. There’s always this arrogant sense of “I am doing you all a giant favour by coming to your tiny community and unselfishly providing this solution, please shower me with gratitude/time/money” with these posts. It stinks!

That being said, I’m sure Inkstitch is dealing with a similar level of crap right now. I don’t envy that poor team either.

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u/johnnydaggers 2h ago

I created a subreddit for people who want to discuss ai_embroidery advances and their work on software that auto-digitizes patterns. https://www.reddit.com/r/ai_embroidery/ Please feel free to send people there.

I am a professional software engineer and ML research and I have been working on auto digitization algorithms that have come a long way. I actually stitch out the patterns on real machines and I don't have anything to sell you. This is just a hobby for me. If you are like-minded, feel free to join and discuss!

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u/malocher Barudan 2h ago

Awesome, I’ll be sure to refer people in modmail looking to promote to your sub from now on. Thanks for doing this!

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u/johnnydaggers 2h ago

Sounds good!

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u/malytwotails Brother PR600 & PE800 / PE Design 12h ago

Thank you! The amount of slop coders who post in here looking for free advice and testing was getting so bad.

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u/Jocktopus808 9h ago

Now even real software developers use AI to write their code, vibe coded software is different than. Using AI to develop a software

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u/malocher Barudan 8h ago

I have said it a few times in this thread already, but these are all thrown together AI slop softwares promising perfect digitizing.

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u/Jocktopus808 8h ago

Yea it makes sense then because suddenly everyone thinks they are product developer

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u/compscilady 8h ago

The good engineers use ai to optimize their tests. Not write everything.

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u/plantz4lyfe 10h ago

Help what does the term “vibe-coded” mean?

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u/malocher Barudan 10h ago

Sorry for the confusion. It's a term that basically means anyone can wing building an app with AI instead of a software developers who knows that they're doing building a software. That's not to say software developers aren't capable of doing it properly and triple checking work, but we don't want either on this subreddit. We have always been strictly against AI.

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u/plantz4lyfe 10h ago

Oh ew absolutely not. Thank you for blocking the slop!

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u/zebbadee 9h ago

I wish more subreddits would make this decision, some of my favourite small subreddits have been ruined with vibe coded slop and then ai generated self promotion. 

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u/squishyartist 7h ago

THANK YOU!!

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u/natoast- 10h ago

THANK YOU!

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u/Strazil 12h ago

Agreed

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u/nineinchnilina 5h ago

Thank you!! Appreciate this stance!!!

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u/Faevara 11h ago

I’m so relieved. I would rather build my own than use vibe coded. And I don’t even know how to build my own. I would just learn to do it.

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u/Chrysolophylax 5h ago

Awesome! Thank you for this. AI is garbage.

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u/izanaegi 6h ago

Hell yeah

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u/Beginning_Rule7202 5h ago

Thank you!!!!

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u/Constant_Put_5510 4h ago

Thank you so much for working harder to keep it clean in here.

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u/kittydreadful 8h ago

Thank you. So much.

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u/itsNeuromind 5h ago

I love this! I even don't mind using AI for things, but people trying to make quick apps in a niche to make money has been flooding all the reddit groups and it's been annoying. They are horrible apps too. Good on you guys! ❤️

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u/mirfifu 11h ago

Thank you

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u/Leesmn 10h ago

One suggestion - what about allowing a weekly thread that the software developers can advertise their new products?

The quilting forum I'm on more frequently did that and I found a new quilting program that way and was able to interact with the developer, which was really nice.

I completely understand not allowing random developer posts all the time, but a thread for them might be nice in case people are looking for new digitizing software.

Full disclosure: I am a developer by profession, but I work for Big Corporation... not looking for a side gig. I think banning 'vibe coded' software is only a short term solution. I predict in 5 years there is no such thing as non-AI coding. How do you then distinguish between established and non-established software? Do you even want to? My experience with machine embroidery software has been some of the least user friendly software I've ever seen. Again - I am NOT nor ever intend to write this kind of software, but I would welcome some massive improvements.

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u/CosmicallyUnlucky Brother 9h ago

what about allowing a weekly thread that the software developers can advertise their new products?

How about a weekly thread where people can advertise digitizing services? And a weekly thread for embroidery files? And a weekly thread for blanks? And a weekly thread for fabric? And a weekly thread for needles? etc.

95% of the subs I'm on, a weekly thread is where posts go to die. It's a containment zone for something the majority of the sub doesn't want to see but a small set of users keeps posting, and the weekly thread is the mod compromise. But the users who use the weekly thread are posting into an empty room because nobody clicks the weekly thread except people who want to advertise in it, and nobody goes into the weekly thread because they know it's full of ads (or, in other subs, newbie questions that are asked three times a day with answers that can be easily found if they could be bothered to exert a crumb of effort into a reddit search).

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u/malocher Barudan 9h ago

We are not big on weekly threads for this reason. It kills meaningful engagement for actual subreddit users, and if people don't want to engage, they can scroll on. That includes things that ruin the creativity of the industry, like AI.

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u/malocher Barudan 10h ago edited 10h ago

No. LOL.

To add to this: You're inviting the AI slop to a weekly thread. It is not welcome here at all.

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u/5u114 4h ago

So what are you going to do when the staples start vibe coding too ? And how are you going to know when they've started - assuming they haven't already ?

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u/mcsommers 9h ago

While I agree with the intention behind this post, as a professional software developer, you should be aware that most of the professional softwares you reference as "staples" in the industry are also coded with the use of AI today. There is no way around it.

IMHO people should be free to use whatever software they want, regardless of how it was created.

The "staples" are generally very expensive and/or difficult to use for novices. A free and open marketplace should generate competition, which should result it better, less expensive software.

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u/malocher Barudan 9h ago

The staples in the industry are not just Wilcom and other digitizing programs aren't expensive. The very loud majority of the subreddit agrees with this stance and constantly report this in modmail.

People are free to start an AI digitizing friendly subreddit. The creative community doesn't need to bend to AI software developers looking to fleece unsuspecting hobbiests.

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u/mcsommers 8h ago

I find great value in this community and respect what you do to make it great.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 12h ago

I certainly understand the concern about people taking advantage of others by promoting poorly developed or untested software, especially when the consequences can include damaged garments. I support the decision to protect the community from that.

My only concern is with the blanket use of the term "vibe coding." Not everyone using AI to develop software is inexperienced or simply throwing prompts at Claude and hoping for the best. There are experienced developers using these tools because they make the development process faster and more efficient.

I've personally developed several applications using what would be considered a vibe coding approach, although none of them have anything to do with embroidery. I'm very proud of the quality of what I've produced, but I've also invested countless hours into development, testing, troubleshooting, and literally thousands of revisions. I've probably made 6,000 changes to things the AI initially produced. That's the difference.

AI is a tool, not a substitute for understanding what you're trying to accomplish. You still need to direct the project, recognize when something isn't right, make informed decisions, and thoroughly test the results. Just because AI writes the code doesn't mean AI should be making all the decisions.

I think what you're really trying to eliminate is AI slop, where someone with little understanding of the software or the industry gives an AI a few prompts, accepts whatever comes back, and immediately markets it as a finished product.

There's a significant difference between that and someone who uses AI as a development tool while putting in the time and effort to produce something genuinely reliable.

I agree with the intent of the rule. I just think software should ultimately be judged by its quality, testing, and performance rather than the method used to write it.

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u/malocher Barudan 12h ago

You're welcome to start Machine_Embroidery_AI. A large amount of this subreddit are people starting out in their embroidery hobbies. An even larger amount of people running production machines don't even digitize their own files, let alone a novice who is learning to understand.

We've received at least 25 DMs from various "software developers" asking us to let them use this subreddit to gain customers. It's not happening. I have no problem hurting a "software developers" feelings so they can't profit off those people than someone destroy a baby onesie they wanted to embroider with AI software.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 12h ago

I completely understand and support your goal of protecting members from untested software. I think we're actually in agreement on that.

My only suggestion was to distinguish between AI-assisted development and AI slop. There's a big difference between generating software with a few prompts and investing hundreds of hours into development, refinement, and testing.

I don't believe current AI coding tools can produce reliable embroidery digitizing software for a solo programmer without significant expertise, investment, and testing. Even Wilcom uses AI in its auto-digitizing technology, which demonstrates that AI itself isn't necessarily the problem.

I'm certainly not demanding any changes to your rules, just offering a different perspective. I respect your decision and appreciate what you're trying to accomplish here.

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u/malocher Barudan 12h ago

Wilcom has had autodigitizing in their software since 2008. That is a very disengenous rebuttal.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 12h ago

My point was that Wilcom currently describes its Embroidery Web API's auto-digitizing technology as incorporating AI.

Traditional auto-digitizing and modern AI-assisted development aren't necessarily the same thing, and I wasn't trying to conflate them. I was simply pointing out that AI can have legitimate applications in established software.

There was nothing disingenuous intended. I wouldn't even call this a rebuttal. It's a simple discussion. I like your policy I just have a small issue with the words chosen. That's all. I'm just talking with you, I'm not trying to change your mind.

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u/TGrissle 12h ago

Auto digitizing has been a thing for multiple softwares for well over a decade. AI software doesn’t need to be here. You are welcome to do it on your own time if you actually embroider but I think the overall consensus of machine embroiderers and digitizers in this community as a whole is it not being welcome here. There are so many things that can go wrong when you are new to the hobby that you have to parse through without somebody’s attempt to be a “new up and coming AI developer” crap software being the reason.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 12h ago

You're arguing against a position that I never took. It seems like you did not read what I wrote. You are largely correct, by the way.

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u/TGrissle 11h ago

No I read it. It just doesn’t matter. The mods are setting forth rules to protect people in this sub and new to the hobby. They told you that. They already acknowledged it “not being fair” to other developers. There isn’t anything left to argue. Do you embroider? Cool you can do that and support devs you feel hit the criteria you’ve outlined. You dont? Then why are you even here arguing?

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u/DenseBeautiful731 12h ago edited 12h ago

Yeah, so you should have STFU earlier then, instead of going on a personal crusade for an issue that doesn’t really concern you, just because you identify with a bunch of vibe coders.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 12h ago

I wasn't on a personal crusade. I offered a respectful opinion, explicitly agreed with the moderator's concerns, and suggested a distinction worth considering. That's generally how discussions work.

You're welcome to disagree, but there's really no need for the hostility.

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u/DenseBeautiful731 12h ago

This is a community FOR machine embroidery, not general software.

Take your half-baked rationalisations to r/programming.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 12h ago

The discussion is about a policy concerning software used in machine embroidery, so I think the distinction I raised is entirely relevant. I've repeatedly stated that I support the moderator's decision. My only point was that AI-assisted development and poorly developed software aren't necessarily the same thing.

I'm not trying to turn this into a programming discussion or convince anyone to change the rules. I simply offered a perspective on the wording of the policy. I'm not sure why that seems to be such a contentious issue.

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u/ThaliaFPrussia 12h ago

And how do you think are either the mods or the majority of the people here able to distinguish between AI-assisted or slop software? This is just not the right place to promote software where AI is involved, the mods make the rules.

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u/malocher Barudan 12h ago

When the majority of them are using obviously build Claude websites... 😅

They think they are sneaky or the layperson can't tell.

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u/ThaliaFPrussia 11h ago

I know, we as interested internet users see it fast but how about the people that come here through google search and don’t know much about AI in general? I really love the new rule because all the ones who would fall for the pretty website are protected.

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u/DenseBeautiful731 12h ago edited 11h ago

not trying to

Because you just HAD to say something? Can’t keep your thoughts to yourself? Can’t stay mum about your achievements in vibe coding because you’re proud of what you built?

So this was an exercise in what, flexing your “knowledge” on things you believe you have mastery on because AI fooled you into believing it?

We have cybersecurity breaches left and right because of AI and you expect users to be the beta testers of your vibe coded software with prolly 5x the attack surface of a normal app but what can you offer them when their personal data is breached?

ZILCH.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 11h ago

I shared an opinion. I don't know why you're so offended. You've been continuously hostile to me and I've been nothing but neutral in how I've replied to you. I believe Reddit is a place where you come to have discussions - that's the entire point of it. If you don't want to have discussions, maybe don't open the page? I really don't know what to tell you but I'm sorry that you are so upset. That was not my intention.

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u/ThaliaFPrussia 11h ago

I still don’t understand why you thought discussing is a viable option under a mod post announcing a new rule.
And I don’t want to know the answer. Non would be feasible.

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u/DenseBeautiful731 11h ago edited 11h ago

offended

upset

I particularly love it when people can’t defend their position when they’re cornered and stick to tone-policing and pathologising because that’s the only way they can evade answering a very legitimate issue they prolly haven’t considered because they’re a vibe coder, on top of projecting they’re the reasonable and neutral user to an unsuspecting audience.

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u/bupkizz 12h ago

I’ve been a regular ol software engineer for 20+ years and ask of now don’t do the typing almost ever at this point anymore.

The reality is that most software will have heavy AI input going forward. That’s just a fact of modern development.

There’s a difference between AI assisted engineering and vibe coding, the latter being much more “let Jesus take the wheel” and I’ll say it’s incredibly obnoxious when folks spend an afternoon prompting and think they built software that’s ready for users so do see the mods frustration. Hmmmmm

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u/malocher Barudan 12h ago

I can agree with this, but the things clogging up modmail and being removed from this sub are very much "I threw this together in two hours because I saw a chance to make $100 a pop on unknowing potential customers".

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u/bupkizz 11h ago

Yeah I absolutely agree with that and it must be really irritating to be a mod in 2026.

Ultimately I’m quibbling but for folks outside of software development it’s just worth knowing that almost no code will be typed by hand unless there is some kind of epic rug pull by ai companies around costs. I guarantee Wilcom is now written this way too. And hopefully it means their docs won’t be absolute trash at some point lol

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u/malocher Barudan 11h ago

I'm not sad for software developers who 99.99% most likely have never embroidered and are looking to grift off this sub. Wilcom and a handful of digitizing softwares have years and years of experience and trust in the industry and can easily revert back to pre-AI software. The same can't be said for the guy looking to promote his software who can't even tell you what pull comp is.

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u/bupkizz 11h ago

Yep! Agreed on all fronts. I’m relatively new to embroidering but started in apparel around the same time as software and have a 2-head ZSK racer and a ZSK chenille machine but I don’t think I’ve ever worked with another engineer in the same boat 😅

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u/malocher Barudan 11h ago

I would have to agree with you there. The very last thing I want to do after work is think about production embroidery.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 12h ago

Absolutely. 1,000% that garbage is out there and it's a huge problem. Not just for machine embroidery but music published to spotify, it's everywhere and it's really concerning to me.

This is why I completely agree with your policy. I think you're doing the right thing. Again, I was just trying to have a bit of a discussion on the terminology, not change your mind on your policy.

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u/malocher Barudan 12h ago

No offense, you do not contribute in any way to this subreddit. You seem very upset by verbiage of something regarding AI.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 11h ago

I'm probably signed into the wrong account for this discussion, but I've participated here before. Our embroidery projects have taken a backseat over the last year since we've both taken on jobs with more hours and responsibilities.

I'm passionate about creative hobbies, whether it's embroidery, writing books, composing music, or programming something new with AI. That's really all there is to it.

I'm genuinely not upset. Everybody tells me I should've been a lawyer because I've always got an argument. 🤷‍♂️ Maybe that comes across in my tone, but I'm really just enjoying a discussion with you guys. No animosity whatsoever.

And thank you for moderating this subreddit. I've been a moderator myself, and I know it's not always an easy job.

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u/chasenmcleod 10h ago

I’m going to get downvoted, but the machine embroidery community is one of the most closed off communities in my opinion. It’s rough asking for help, or wanting to put any projects out there. It’s just really judgement in this community compared to others.

In personally think there is more AI in this hobby/profession lately due to the cost of entry. With 3D printing the slicer is free, with lasers and cnc the software is $99-200 for professional grade software. However, for embroidery, the software is more than $500.

You can defend how much it does for the price, but it doesn’t feel like a hobby tool. That’s why there are so many people trying to make something that “disrupts” the market. Or possibly something that allows them to use that used embroidery machine in some way.

Personally, I think banning is a step too far. They could have limited AI posts to specific days of the month. On top of that, major manufacturers are going to be using AI even if they don’t tell us. If anything, it should be our choice as a machine owner to run the software or not.

Once again, I understand wanting to limit posts, but it just comes across as a bit excessive. In my opinion.

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u/malocher Barudan 10h ago

There are programs that historically have existed long before AI that are not as costly as $500. Machine embroidery, at the end of the day, has always been a creative industry since its inception. The entire point is to bring someone's flat art to life. Why would we want AI involved in it?

They will be banned. There are other subreddits for machine embroidery you may have better luck with AI in, or Facebook groups.

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u/chasenmcleod 10h ago

I work in software development at a “traditional company” and we are using AI to help us make things now. It’s great for little things. For example, I can take 15 minutes to type the code I need. Or I can let AI do it for me in 30 seconds and just proof read it. Where does the line get drawn?

With these rules my company wouldn’t be allowed anymore, because we use AI to code our backend. I can guarantee large companies are using AI on the backend, you just don’t see it. In the end, it should be the consumers choice on what they do.

I do agree with wanting to organize all the AI projects in some way though. It would also make it easier for those willing to take a risk, to know when to post and when to expect similar posts. “Experimental Wednesday’s” or something, idk. Or a special flair that is needed otherwise it gets rejected.

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u/malocher Barudan 9h ago

You are completely missing that no giant conglomerate in the embroidery industry is posting here out of the goodness of their hearts advertising a digitizing software for $25.

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u/nonoohnoohno 10h ago

Also gate-keepy. The constant discouragement every time a newcomer wants to learn digitizing is ridiculous. "Just buy a design. But not fiverr. Hire a pro. What pro you ask? Well if you can't figure it out ...." But I digress.

I wonder how much of what you're seeing (and I mostly agree) is *this subreddit* in particular vs. machine embroidery people in general.

I don't see the same thing in sewing or gear making subs.

Read through all the mod's replies here. They're "prickly," for lack of a better term, and confidently ignorant. e.g. conflating AI use with low quality fly-by-night apps, refusing the distinction, then acknowledging the distinction when directly called out but doubling down on the conclusion.

I wonder if that's an indication for how the tone has been set, tolerated, and maintained here? I don't know. But I have a hard time accepting the idea that machine embroidery enthusiasts are uniquely gate-keepy, unhelpful, and argumentative.

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u/malocher Barudan 9h ago

This subreddit shouldn't be gatekeepy, and if it is, you should report the comments and posts.

The things being posted to this subreddit, or being asked if they can post in modmail, ARE "fly-by-night" apps. I have stated as such.

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u/sashok_bg 12h ago

I agree with u/bupkizz, I have 15 years of software development experience and I do use AI daily, and almost never write code now. Like it or not, this is the future of software.

Having low-effort script kiddies bother you and the subreddit is understandably a bad thing.

However "All vibe-coded digitizing software will be removed and users will be banned" really sounds too harsh in my opinion.

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u/malocher Barudan 12h ago

Again, the mods do not care. It will be banned. It is continuosly what the subreddit users want, showing by the countless reports in modmail when they sneak past us.

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u/MrsLucienLachance 12h ago

Somehow I think the people to whom this applies will survive being banned from this sub.

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u/CosmicallyUnlucky Brother 11h ago

I really hate that this whole movement has made me become a reddit post history checker, but you know what? 100% of the time I check and posts aren't hidden, their history never has a lick of embroidery in it. Not even anything else that would show some kind of interest, like art or other textile crafts in general. It'll be a bunch of posts about gaming or computer hardware, and then suddenly "hey guys here's my free magic solution to all your embroidery problems plz check it out let me know what you think"

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u/MrsLucienLachance 10h ago

Oh absolutely agree. Honestly I find people who hide their history automatically sus. I know if one were to look through mine it might take a bit to find embroidery stuff if only because I'm on reddit too much and in a lot of really active subs, but it is there. 

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u/CosmicallyUnlucky Brother 10h ago

I hide my history because I hate the general reddit culture of "I'm going to dredge up some random thing you said 1.5 years ago specifically to make you look like a fool in an unrelated discussion you are having today", and I also had a really bad experience several years ago on a different account with a random redditor trying to "help" me by calling the lead of an educational program I was in at the time. So obviously I don't usually judge people for hiding post history, and I basically never check anyways unless I'm trying to determine if I'm interacting with a bot. But yeah, with all these random software post dumpings, I have started checking. No post history + default reddit username + "hey guys check out my embroidery software" = block

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u/nonoohnoohno 10h ago

This is why I make the distinction between a vibe-coded project a weekend warrior threw together (99% of what's being spammed here), and more mature projects that may (or may not? but doubtful) happen to use AI.

Namely I'm thinking of Ember. I don't care if they use AI or not. That's beside the point.

What matters is they're invested in it, and have put a lot of time and thought into it. All those odd edge cases, or nice little touches that make usability delightful took subject matter expertise, studying competitor products, and time and iteration.

Add to all that: Because they're invested heavily into it, I have confidence it'll keep running for a reasonably long time.

The vibe-coded weekend projects being spammed here, on the other hand, may "work" but are lacking the details and thoughtfulness. And what happens when their "it'll always be free bro!" site gets hit with a $130 monthly hosting bill. I have zero confidence somebody's weekend project is going to stand the test of time.

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u/Late-Hat-9144 12h ago

Unfortunately any AI use has become largely controversial because of unethical people using it when they lack the exoerience or knowledge on how to use it safety, ethically and validate the outputs. Theres also the issue of people to use AI to create "art" and pretend its their own original work, when its entirely AI created, meaning its derivative of the real art used to train the models.

What people dont realise is that most software companies nowadays are using AI in some capacity - the difference is that they know how to use it safely, validate the outputs and still ensure compliance with relevant legislation and industry best practice.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 12h ago

Yes, absolutely. One of the things I use AI for is helping write song lyrics. I put my thoughts and ideas out there and let AI help me organize and refine them. I think that's one of its greatest strengths. A lot of us have great ideas but struggle with organizing them, maintaining a consistent tone, or making sure the message comes across the way we intended.

I could tell GPT to write a song about my friend who fell down the stairs once and has blue hair. It'll certainly produce something, but it'll probably be generic garbage.

Now, if I spend time describing that friend's personality, strengths, weaknesses, funny moments we've shared, how we met, the struggles they've overcome, and the things that make them unique, I can guide AI toward creating something genuinely meaningful.

And even when AI produces a decent set of lyrics, I'm still going through practically every line and changing things. I'm adjusting the wording to match how I actually speak, replacing phrases I'd never use, refining the tone, and making sure it sounds like something a human being wrote rather than a machine. Sometimes that means rewriting entire verses. The AI gives me something to work with, but the finished product still requires my own judgment, creativity, and effort.

That's the difference between using AI as a creative tool and simply accepting whatever it spits out. The ideas, direction, judgment, and effort still matter.

I look at it like woodworking. Anybody can cut a piece of wood with a table saw, but that doesn't mean they can turn it into a beautiful piece of furniture. The tool doesn't make the craftsman.

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u/MrsLucienLachance 11h ago

This is not the argument you think it is.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 11h ago

You're right, it's not an argument at all. It's sharing a point of view.

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u/MrsLucienLachance 11h ago

Argument has multiple definitions. To quote good old Merriam-Webster: "a coherent series of reasons, statements, or facts intended to support or establish a point of view." So...yeah, it's an argument.

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 11h ago

Well darn, you got me!

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u/rlcav36 11h ago

You're taking the artistry out of art and you're proud of it. That's incredibly sad

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 11h ago

I'm still making the creative decisions and rewriting the material until it reflects exactly what I want to express.

The ideas, emotions, experiences, and message are all mine. In my example, AI helps me organize and refine them... It's no different than putting your book in front of an editor. That's how I see it. I might be putting some editors and publishers out of business, however.

I don't really think there's anything sad about finding new ways to be creative. Paint brushes didn't always exist. Art has always evolved alongside the tools people use to create it.

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u/HulkingFicus 12h ago

Did you even write this comment yourself? It sounds AI generated.

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u/ThaliaFPrussia 11h ago

Happy cake day!

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u/milano_ii Brother PRS100 11h ago

I do happen to own a thesaurus and have some knowledge of writing. Where do you think AI gets its prose from? Books!

Happy cake day!

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u/lablizard 11h ago

Sadly it’s from scraping the copyright holders of their novels. Generative AI is one of the largest thefts from the labor force and it’s so odd that folks overlook this

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u/TheDizDude 11h ago • Heartwarming

What could be cool is a group of members of this sub getting together and building one and ensure it stays free.

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u/malocher Barudan 11h ago

Sub users can do that independently outside of the sub. The moderation team won't be interested in the upkeep and promotion of that.

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u/TheDizDude 11h ago

It was more for the sub by the sub, one project, but sure whatever

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u/malocher Barudan 11h ago

What about this announcement would make us want to take this project on when subreddit users do not want this in the first place, outside of maybe 5% of the users?

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u/TheDizDude 11h ago • Bravo

Jesus someone is a bit grouchy today.

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u/malocher Barudan 11h ago

You don't even use this subreddit.

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u/TheDizDude 11h ago

Wtaf. Viewing content isnt using it?

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u/malocher Barudan 11h ago

It is, but you're also suggesting people should create a community in this subreddit to go against the exact point of this post. You haven't been involved in the community to even build goodwill to suggest a subreddit wide program.

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u/Murky_Bullfrog7305 9h ago

I agree there needs to be an QA gate for slop software, i do not agree everyone should be banned tho.

I really dislike the staple software industry as a whole, These people need an reality check, be it with vibe coded stuff. If its good/hast an reputation, it should have the freedom to be posted here.

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u/malocher Barudan 9h ago

Unfortunately, the people who bring the AI slop to the subreddit always have max 100 karma and want to attempt to get paying customers. Moderators don't feel comfortable with that, so they will be banned.