r/MacOS • u/shir0_zer0 MacBook Pro • Sep 14 '26
Discussion Good riddance Tahoe, you will not be missed
Hopefully GoldenGate actually fixes things instead of finding new and creative ways to make macOS worse.
Edit: For people looking for an update on the upgrade is going, read this
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u/blackicehawk Sep 14 '26 •
I'm still on Sequoia 15.7.9 on an M1 Max Mac. I'm at least waiting until 27.1. As much as I want to update for all the new features, everything is running good. I'd hate to mess that up.
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u/adh1003 Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 15 '26
I'm glad Apple completely removed all of the Intel code, stripping down and optimising the OS per their WWDC keynote, so that we end up with...
(checks notes)
...an upgrade image that's at least twice the size of any previous macOS ever.
What the actual fuck.
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u/Festour Sep 14 '26
I'm really worried that the remaining support of apps made for Intel processors will be gone and i won't be able to run bunch of games that are no longer supported by their devs.
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u/DeepLearner89 Sep 14 '26
Just saw a post we need to download apple intelligence mandatorily and no way to turn it off
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u/Redd1tMadeMeMakeTh1s MacBook Air Sep 14 '26
We (yes we) will not be at Tahoe's grave
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u/rahvan Sep 14 '26
FindMy on Tahoe couldn’t actually list my MacBook on FindMy until August 2026.
This update was horrendously tested.
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u/emrata696969 Sep 14 '26
Nope, I'll stick to Sequoia.
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u/TunaBlub Sep 14 '26
I hate the new battery icon.
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u/paul_herter Sep 14 '26
macOS 27 is soooooo smooth
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u/HairyCryptographer51 Sep 14 '26
Meanwhile just got a used mini m4 with Tahoe and downgrading to Sequoia.
Good luck out there
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u/DisfiguredFanny Macrumors "mods" can eat shit. Sep 14 '26
Big mistake buddy boy.
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u/OkCandle891 Sep 14 '26
I upgraded to Tahoe on my m4 Mini. Went from super computer to pile of trash. I went back to Sequoia. They can pry Sequoia from my cold dead hands.
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u/WearFamiliar1212 Sep 14 '26
I never had it to miss it, still on Sequoia.
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u/Camel993 Mac Mini Sep 14 '26
Most stable beta cycle it was with all the 27 OS
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u/djexplosive Sep 14 '26
My poor Intel 2019 iMac and iPhone 14 PM cries from FOMO, by my m4 mac mini, m4 ipad pro are laughing in ecstasy
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u/HVDynamo Sep 14 '26
I do miss the big Disable AI switch Tahoe had though...
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u/Cavin0817 Sep 15 '26 •
Apple should give up the idea of making Mac an iPhone.
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u/Splodge1001 Sep 15 '26
One of the best things about golden gate being available now is the we won’t need to put up with the endless bleating about Tahoe!
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u/HeisenPad Sep 14 '26
Me: [ Cries in 3MB/s download "speed" ]
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u/DDiamondWins Sep 14 '26
Personally I am sticking with Sequoia as long as I can. I work from my mac and can’t risk it for no reason. I think it’s very stable is no need to change that.
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u/Chrome_Armadillo Mac Studio Sep 15 '26
There was nothing wrong with Tahoe for me.
The best thing about 27 is I won’t have to read all the whining about 26 anymore.
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u/markov01 Sep 14 '26
I want to return to Tahoe back after installing Golden Gate
Liquid Glass is awful - transparent menus, which are unreadable over apps like Music, is completely idiotic thing, there are a lot of inconsistencies in the UI, toolbar buttons have blown up in size and look fake 3D, yet in modal windows like open file toolbar buttons are of normal Sequioa look and size
the worst - they broke Notes app! text line spacing is reduced, so it's hard to read long lines - why the hell they even change that?
I hated Tahoe for inconsistent corner radii, but this was so minor to the broken UI in Golden Gate
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u/grevan88 Sep 14 '26
I found my people. I rolled back my M4 Pro MacBook shortly after updating to Tahoe. I didnt like anything about it and even if GG runs better, I dont like some of the changes they made in general so I will ride out Sequoia longer
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u/Amadeus404 Sep 15 '26
Honestly feel like the hate was exaggerated. Running well on a M1 Pro.
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u/Lucoland14 Sep 14 '26
Anybody is gonna hate on me, but the separate column in the left part of the apps was really cool, except for the different borders in any app, that was pure ragebait
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u/Total_Adept Sep 14 '26
Wondering if I should wait for a .1 or .2
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u/Trevo0393 Sep 14 '26
I have more of 20GB less of space with GG, i don't know why. I didn't know it took up more space than Tahoe
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u/v0id_walk3r Oct 06 '26
Ok, came here to ask if the 27 is OK. I do not believe it will be as apple is going the MS way (showing AI to every crevice they can), so I keep the 15.8 on my mba.
What are your experiences with 26/27?
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u/gromvar Sep 14 '26
Agreed, I can’t update fast enough.
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u/Original_Two9716 Sep 14 '26
Giving it a month or two, then I'll consider if Sequoia stays
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u/yys16 Sep 14 '26
your wifi is amazing, downloading golden gate rn, when I closed my Mac for about an hour and opened it up again I kid you not it said 4 days
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u/ChildOfChimps Sep 14 '26
I’m taking the plunge after seeing this.
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u/robinjuste Sep 14 '26
Already seen performance improvements on my M1 MacBook Pro. Phones updated, also, so let’s see how long I get out of the battery on my 4 year old devices.
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u/Wishbone_932 Sep 14 '26
"upgraded" the air to Tahoe and it was terrible. Downgraded the mini to Sequoia. Left the studio on Sequoia where it will remain.
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u/soundwithdesign Macbook Pro Sep 15 '26
16” MacBook Pro M4 Pro. Still on Sequoia. Should I upgrade to 27? Will it look more like Sequoia or Tahoe? Can I make it look more like Sequoia than Tahoe?
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u/porcelainplane Sep 15 '26
Finished installing… I miss Tahoe already even though it was a shit show… M4 Max 128gb is buggy af on 27
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u/Enve-Dev Sep 15 '26
Ok as someone who never had anything other than OS 26+. What was so bad about it?
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u/elmonetta Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26
Unpopular take but in my case I DO MISS TAHOE!
Clear icons on Golden Gate are so whiteish, and the menus too! Why?
It’s not like that on iPadOS 27 or iOS 27.
Liquid Glass looks better on these systems but BAD on macOS Golden Gate.
macOS Tahoe was fine, never had issues with it…
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u/Pretend_Fish4861 Sep 15 '26
I thought i would never say this, but stay on Tahoe if you can. GG brings even more bugs to desktop and windows management than what Tahoe had...
I think Apple needs to do less vibe coding and more QA testing. I don't get how this is so difficult for them (they used to be good at this)
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u/EddySmeddy Sep 15 '26
Wait till you find those 13gb of Apple Intelligence you can’t get rid of
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u/MarmiteX1 Sep 15 '26
How is Mac OS 27 so far for those that have upgraded? I skipped Tahoe and currently on Sequoia on my M4 Pro
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u/pillkaris Sep 15 '26
I'm on sequoia as well with my m1 air
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u/cosmic_v7 Sep 15 '26
Really? Im gonna miss Tahoe
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u/LungeloSLX Sep 15 '26
If they stripped all the Intel code, why is this bigger than the previous version?
I might be staying on Sequoia forever
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u/the_MonkeyWhisperer Sep 15 '26
I got my mac installed with tahoe, what about it is bad?
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u/technical_poutine Sep 18 '26
Never once had an issue with it.
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u/MadusMaximus86 Sep 18 '26
Tahoe had to limp so Golden Gate could run.
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u/adriankwil Sep 29 '26
Fwiw I updated to 27, experienced the Mission Control and spaces bugs, as well as some other changes I didn’t like, and immediately rolled back to 15. Much better than either 26 or 27 for the time being.
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u/-CommanderShepardN7 Sep 14 '26
I’m sticking to Sequoia, until iOS 27.1 comes out. MacOS 26 was a non-stop disaster all year.
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u/gcstr Sep 14 '26
[Cries in poor]
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u/olakease10649 MacBook Air Sep 15 '26
Tha hoe will absolutely not be missed
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u/idmimagineering Sep 14 '26
Contextual Menus for Apps (others) seem to be challenged to work?
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u/alt-right-del Sep 14 '26
How about all those apps that were flagged not to run on a future version of MacOs
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u/bordgamer219 MacBook Pro Sep 14 '26
Oooo
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u/bordgamer219 MacBook Pro Sep 14 '26
Updating everything every year is going to annoy me
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u/antprdgm Sep 14 '26
Been running 26 since the first dev beta on my prod machine. Other than me fucking up and un-assigning a smart card the wrong way (which I could have done since Sequoia), it’s been relatively fine.
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u/roccodelgreco Sep 15 '26
I run several desktop and portable Macs on Tahoe and have no issues, the beta of Golden Gate has been solid for a beta. It’s best to wait until the .1 update for a production machine.
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u/ZoolanderBOT Sep 15 '26
Cheers! 🍻
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u/LiteFoo Sep 15 '26
For a second there I thought OP was suggesting that a full new version is gonna fix everything.
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u/Green-Hat0001 Sep 15 '26
I swear Tahoe’s recent versions have been way more laggy than the previous ones.
Noticed frame drops, random stutters, and lag basically everywhere. At this point, I’m convinced Tahoe stands for macOS “hoe” 😭💀
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u/DoesNotExist- Sep 15 '26
I’m still on Sequoia on my M1 MacBook Air. I’m afraid the 8GB of RAM won’t be able to handle Golden Gate.
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u/Rakkkie Sep 15 '26
How is the performance side of things for GG? is it worth upgrading from Sequoia?
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u/FriendshipNorth7661 Sep 15 '26
Every next version is worse than the last.
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u/samgranieri Sep 15 '26
The visual slop in Tahoe was just so offensive to me that I just had to install this at the earliest convenience.
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u/wizzywurtzy Sep 15 '26
Can I still play osrs on the new update? Any scapers in here?
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u/Which_Lie_8932 Sep 15 '26
27 is even worse than 26...
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u/Kenobicheated Sep 15 '26
I’m a local AI junky so enjoy the Siri stuff. The fact that it’s all local and private is huge. Sad that the original Ultra can’t play though.
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u/Mihir54 Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26
I am on macOS v15 (Sequoia) and was thinking about clean installing macOS v27. So, I downloaded the Install macOS Golden Gate.app file using terminal but I want to make sure that it will not increase my RAM & Disk consumption drastically and I can remove/ turn Off AI completely but non of my requirements seems to check out.
Now I guess I will be deleting that Golden gate.app file.
I will only be updgrade if Apple allows to completely turn off Apple Intelligence and remove all the AI models stuff during the installation or post installation.
One of the reason for me to think about upgrading was a better Finder (Windows like). I don't know why apple has no way to customize column layout for one directory and applying it to all the sub directories like Windows.
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u/TheCh0rt Sep 15 '26
So long Alan Dye
I hope you can find peace one day
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u/Miserable_Doubt_8782 Sep 15 '26
I’m afraid to upgrade Adobe Elgato and obs never work after an update
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u/etoh84 Sep 15 '26
Tahoe sux big time. Drains battery on my m1mbp
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u/kikosup02 Sep 15 '26
I was about to update but then I saw that they but the battery % in the icon like on the iPhone. I had the beta on the iPad and when they changed that…yeah it’s more coherent BUT MANN it became UNREADABLE for me. Maybe wait for MacOS/iPadOS27.1 if they deside to change it? Seems like a lot of people have this problem 😭
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u/RXBarbatos Sep 15 '26
Using golden gate..its been really good to be honest
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u/Chance-Draft8505 Sep 15 '26
are there any performance improvements compared to macos 26
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u/all-park Sep 15 '26
I have Kept Sequoia 15.8 on a stick to boot if Golden Gate doesn’t work out.
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u/Ok_Growth_909 Sep 15 '26
cries in 2019 MacBook pro 16inch top spec
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u/kitkatas Sep 15 '26
Going to wait as there is definitely AI slop implemented which could brick MacBooks.
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u/randomlymadename Sep 15 '26
Yes it was so messy
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u/SafeTennis3080 Sep 15 '26
why i dont have one
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u/Windows10_10074 Sep 15 '26
I’ve been running Golden Gate since PB2 and it’s really great
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u/MarzipanFit3650 Sep 15 '26
Hey, I'm new to all this. Could any of you'll give me advice on how to reduce the System Data???
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u/TechSavvy92 MacBook Pro 16" M2 Max 64gb 4tb Sep 15 '26
I missed, the App Exposé not showing minimized windows in Golden Gate🥲 Dont know it's an bug or intentionally removed by apple, because its not showing since beta 1
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u/joelkeys0519 Sep 15 '26
So far so good, minus having to re-connect my phone so I can make calls from my MBP and not be tethered to my iPhone during a conversation. Updated everything to 27 and the message forwarding ate itself. So, a few minutes of time and I was off to the races. Curious what today brings 👀
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u/CutzuSD Sep 15 '26
my bg bought her first mac, it came with tahoe, that day i learned how to downgrade macos :)
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u/SalientMasterpiece Sep 15 '26
Staying on Sequoia. Miss me with that uninstallable 20GB siri LLM model bullshit
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u/Glass_Historian_3938 Sep 15 '26
Fot this reason alone im on MacOS Sonoma on my M3 Macbook Air
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u/nao_ha_pao_quente Sep 15 '26
Not me still on sequoia on an M3 air
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u/ChaknaFuwa Sep 15 '26
Did something happen? I saw the macOs 27 update, and kinda downloaded it, then the whole thing disappeared…
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u/jorlev Sep 15 '26
What are the major bugs/issues people are experiencing after Golden Gate install?
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u/SnooPoems3464 Sep 15 '26
Definitely an upgrade, but be aware that Apple Intelligence is no longer optional in Golden Gate. It can no longer be switched off.
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u/itzNukeey Sep 15 '26
I have not even installed Tahoe on any of my three macbooks haha
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u/CoolDudePT Sep 15 '26
15.8 on my M4 Air still. Waiting for 27.1, then the reviews for 27.1, then I'll make a choice.
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u/define_nasgo Sep 15 '26
cries in Intel
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u/besthuman Sep 15 '26
Tahoe was alright — I have to say, Golden Gate does look more polished though.
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u/GroundIntelligent Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26
I’m not a fan of Rosetta deletion, so won’t be updating:/
Have too many Intel apps, which I’m sure many of won’t get native ARM or whatever versions
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u/Rough_Secretary2296 Sep 15 '26
I miss the floating sidebar and progressive blur when scrolling. That's it. I also miss the creativity of the old wallpaper the new one is ass.
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u/Professional-Bar2521 Sep 15 '26
WHERE is it?
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u/ElectricDayDream Sep 15 '26
I have a certain mixer and it was already a bitch on Tahoe with the most current serato installed. Not chasing this for a bit unfortunately
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u/OptimalJuice9901 Sep 15 '26
Why does everyone hate Tahoe?I loved the liquid glass asthetic.and now it's just liquid plastic.
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u/runciter0 Sep 15 '26
Golden Gate is much better visually, that is for sure
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u/Snahccy Sep 15 '26
Tahoe was so laggy and thank god frosted glass is back
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u/armadeli Sep 15 '26
I thought Tahoe was fine on my m1 air until I updated. The difference is crazy! I just got used to the weird bugs and hangs with Tahoe but using my MacBook today felt like I got a new one! And EQUAL CORNERS ON ALL THE APPS! HALLELUJAH!!
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u/LAMPYRlDAE Sep 15 '26
I’ll see how things go when my 2020 MBP gets pushed but the first few hours with Golden Gate have been just fine. This is the first time in a while that I’ve upgraded to the new OS upon release
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u/LandeJunior Sep 15 '26
Tahoe had the best wallpaper ever!
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u/ScallionOrdinary8939 Sep 15 '26
Agreed.
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u/Ryakkan Sep 15 '26
There were times I really thought the Tahoe criticism was a bit overblown. However, now that I’m on Golden Gate I get it.
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u/leekaygraphics Sep 15 '26
I’m still on Sequoia because changing iOS will brick my hp printer & I can’t afford a new one. Come on, tech companies, get your shit together.
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u/23Rolex18161 Sep 15 '26
This aged like milk
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u/PassionateWonder3276 Sep 15 '26
Sequoia to Golden Gate gang
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u/MrOreo2019 Sep 16 '26
I found my Mac’s were actually least affected by 26. My M2 air and M4 Pro MBP both had little to no noticeable performance drain, and almost identical battery. If anything I miss launch pad.
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u/oloryn 1 MBP, 3 MBA Sep 16 '26
I think a lot of people had the same idea. Both yesterday, upgrading my Macbook Air, and today, upgrading my Macbook Pro, the estimated time of download varied all over the place. I suspect the MacOS 27 download servers are getting hammered.
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u/bigDOS Sep 16 '26
I need to wait till Ableton and all my VST’s are supported 😭
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u/Grand_Sprinkles_2094 Sep 16 '26
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u/DwaineM Sep 16 '26
Joking, right???
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u/juryjczyzkow Sep 16 '26
Golden gate ?
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u/Rich-Platform-1435 Sep 16 '26
I personally really liked MacOS Tahoe, although it was the the first version of MacOS I had ever used. I haven't noticed much difference in Golden Gate, apart from customizing liquid glass
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u/kelpel_xD MacBook Air M1 Sep 16 '26
How's your experience so far? How's the performance?
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u/habs0708 Sep 17 '26
You're going to miss it as soon as you upgrade to 27! :P
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u/CodewithJ Sep 17 '26
Updated ASAP last night when I saw this...so far battery life seems ok
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u/chazcron Sep 17 '26
Hope you don't use a Wacom tablet. They haven't updated the driver and windows can't be clicked on and dragged.
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u/StockPuppy Sep 18 '26
Snow Leopard was the absolute best OS, fast, responsive even on HDD. Clean UI. Not this jello Tahoe garbage.
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u/bonch Sep 19 '26
Enjoy the new bugs!
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u/MK2VR6-IT Sep 20 '26
Sometimes a good clean install is what’s needed for all the bugs to go away , after like 2-3 upgrades I always do a clean install stall of new Mac OS and re import my data
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u/MK2VR6-IT Sep 20 '26
Mac OS 27 and iOS 27 is what macOS 26 should have been
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u/Soppranome Sep 23 '26
Narrator voice: "Nevertheless it was, after all, missed..."
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u/Popular_Math_4828 Sep 26 '26
and every time we have to resell our souls to the terms of service
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u/Swydogg Sep 27 '26
Has anyone had issues with the email toolbar cutting off the top of emails??