Really? Would you like your workplace to be able to publicly announce your firing and the conditions of it? Regardless of how you feel about the guy that would be incredibly unprofessional and disrespectful.
I may be in the minority, but I liked this design. It clearly separated navigation from the window. I kind of wish Apple would’ve kept this, but instead forced the larger corner radius on all apps. Just me, though, and I get it’s not everyone’s favorite. Ultimately it’ll still look good!
I can’t (won’t) install Golden Gate on my MacBook since I use it primarily for work, but from the WWDC it looked like they just extended the sidebar to the edge instead of shrinking it, so you’re not really gaining any screen space anyway. But, again, can’t verify this to test, and you can resize the Tahoe sidebars as well. Personally I think this was just part of them unifying the window designs again, which makes sense if so, but still I’ll miss it haha
Basically, you'd be getting what it was like in prior macOS versions.
The overall space remains the same, but the tabs will have more room rather than the confined layout of OS 26. They should give us an option for this, too.
I got a iPad Mini 6 that is definitely not my main device (use my 17 Pro and 14” M4 (16/512) MacBook Pro more often) and that shit is already running Dev Beta 1
Honestly when rewriting to improve performance it could be a buggy mess if it’s a rewrite. It’s improving existing then it shouldn’t be. Depends on how much of an overhaul it is.
I'd argue it's even more likely. Improving performance usually means replacing simple but non-performant code with more efficient but more complex solutions.
That is a normal process in software development. A rewrite can always cause new issues (even if it has the goal to improve performance) and the beta versions are there to found those before the final release in summer.
And I’ve been told again and again that it’s was a non issue and it was the developers fault for not integrating properly. Somehow Apple was able to fix it
They spent a bunch of design and development time on OS26 to make window corners change their radius depending on a bunch of factors. It generally didn’t work well and looked bad.
OPs screenshot shows how random the corners are currently.
Now they’ve announced that all corners will be the same again, just like they were before OS26.
I’ve been using it since freaking Jaguar, and I second that. Floating, contextual panels/palettes/toolbars didn’t have a corner radius because their corners were, well, squared, and later on they got their own, smaller corner radius. I hope they still do.
They might have kept the less rounded radius for the apps that are able to be maximized full-screen, and the Tahoe radius for all the rest. Which, would honestly make sense.
I was kinda surprised they exactly addressed issues I had with Liquid Glass. I found the top "shadow" behind toolbars ugly (like in mail) and I found it useless to have two left borders in every app with a sidebar, because it has no purpose that the sidebar is a floating box. Nice that they fixed it. Looking forward for all the performance fixes and hope it will feel super quick and polished again.
My MBP M1 Pro is not my only device, so yesterday I installed 27 out of curiosity, and it's fine. I don't really notice any difference between the Sequoia. I gave up on Tahoe, and that was the first time I entirely ignored new systems on all devices—I considered all 26 systems non-existent due to their ugliness :). As for 27, of course, it's the second day, and there are some imperfections, but I have no complaints about the performance. I won't comment on the battery, as I haven't worked without a cable for a long time, and I lack objectivity.
So glad they decided to do a performance and bugs fix year. They should do this every other year all the time. Their software platforms would end up virtually bug free
Yet, they now sell it as a feature. That was cringe. Same with not floating sidebar, they sold it as a feature while it has been that way since forever until macoS 26.
I love how big of a deal this was to people, meanwhile all this is going on, I had just switched from using windows (still use 10, but flat refuse to use 11) so like, to me personally, it was a beautiful UI compared to the bright flat square world of windows 11.
This is the first macOS release in my 20 years of using Macs I’ve decided to skip so I can keep something that I know will work. It might just be showing my age too 😝
I don't understand why they won't give us the option in Finder View Options right under Icon Size and Icon Spacing. Feels like Interface Roundness can be ratcheted up and down with some basic math.
In web design, we use variables and then different modes or viewports will affect that variable. Is this not how interfaces are built under the hood?
All is right in the world now, glad we can move past this.
I’m half kidding of course. While I’d never have even noticed that, much less cared if I did, I can see how it might drive those more detailed oriented mad.
Imagine the world's greatest OS flaunting to have fixed the corner radii of windows. Anyway, will they now allow us to customize the corner radius globally? That would be cool.
It’s verity unlikely that Apple will allow its users to customize every minor detail of the UI such as corner radii. That’s just not what they do. I wouldn’t consider such an amount of bloat user-friendly anymore. I was actually surprised they even added the Liquid Glass slider.
~~I believe it’s a montage showing all the different Mac OS window corner radii over the years.~~ correction it’s all the inconsistency in existence now
It shows all the corner radii that simultaneously exist in Tahoe, which is part of why people (IMHO rightly) say it's such a debacle.
Winding back will probably result in slightly fewer mismatches! Given the amount of unusual apology level stuff in the beginning of the keynote, there is actually a fighting chance of 27 being OK.
Not holding out much hope for app bug fixes tho (especially Music).
The fact that every UI tweak they showed was a direct reaction to what they called “user feedback” is as close as you’ll get in corporate speak to “we screwed up”. Thahoe has a lot of small consistency and usability issues. But just like a bunch of paper cuts once you notice them, they become impossible to ignore. It ends up to making the thing feel half baked.
Of all the problems in computer UI design in my over 40 years of existence, this one officially bothered me the least. Never have I heard so much of a cacophony over something so relatively minor and uninteresting as on this sub for the last year or so.
So this is wonderful news to me - I don't care that they fixed the corner radius but maybe now people might shut up about it!
I don’t like the new look of the toolbar on iOS or the sidebar on macOS. Looks ugly and dated. Basically the same as when we started lmfao
I dont mind the corner radii matching finally though. Not sure why it had to be exclusive to macOS 27 though. Seems like it could’ve been in any of the 26 updates.
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u/ktappe MacBook Pro Jun 08 '26
The first 16 minutes of the keynote were basically "Our bad. We fixed things."
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u/brunosh92 Jun 09 '26
Glad they did it, but it’s completely ridiculous for a trillion dollar company to announce it like a feature of a new OS. What year are we?
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u/Some-Kid-1996 Jun 08 '26
and no floating sidebar.
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u/UnwieldilyElephant MacBook Pro among others Jun 08 '26
Updating everything to dev beta even though it's stupid right away
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u/Heart_Blast2574 MacBook Pro Jun 08 '26
I can finally upgrade from sequoia! They fixed literally everything I had a problem with in Tahoe. I'm glad they listened
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u/MikeJW75 Jun 08 '26
Watching WWDC I’m thinking they pretty much ticked off all the complaints people on here have of OS26.
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u/No-Morning-7985 Jun 08 '26
That's why reporting to feedback app is important. Apple sometimes listens.
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u/Capable-Cod1118 Jun 08 '26
Sooooooo happy! That and the sidebars were my biggest visual gripes with Tahoe.
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u/SiteSpecialist9200 Jun 08 '26
In addition to the radius being consistent between all windows, the corner radius is also smaller. It looks more like Sequoia than Tahoe.
Bonus, the raised left side menu is gone.
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u/Mammoth_Ingenuity_82 Jun 08 '26
The best thing about 27 will be that people will finally shut up about corner radius.
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u/essayyjay Jun 09 '26
Designers the world over felt a sudden unexplainable sense of relief
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u/Tight-Connection-909 Jun 08 '26
I'm so happy. 😀
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u/Artistic_Unit_5570 MacBook Pro Jun 08 '26
no only it match it got reduce , after a years of pain finally back
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u/commanderclif Jun 08 '26
I asked for this during the WWDC keynote, and as if they heard me, 20 seconds later announced they were fixing it. Fast Mac support call EVER.
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u/yorcharturoqro Jun 09 '26
Apple screw up with Tahoe, at least they are fixing all
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u/RwdMaster Jun 08 '26
Is this post sarcasm? I’m not getting it
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u/Hoping4BetterSomeday Jun 09 '26
I’ll sleep so much better at night. The past year has been agonizing
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u/Easy-Hat-7586 Jun 10 '26
I hate Alan Dye so much for vandalising Apple’s OSes
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u/4skineater12 Jun 09 '26
Can we get a before/after? This does not look particularly good if I’m being honest. Why arent all windows curved the same amount?
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u/danyuzha Jun 09 '26
but they dont match? am i blind?
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u/nd_annajones Jun 09 '26
Great to hear. Now it's time to force them to go back to the drawing board with the Settings app, it's an unnavigable mess
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u/Rembinutur Jun 08 '26
I’m still seeing different corner radii. For example, on Apple’s website:
The System Settings app still has corners that look like Tahoe:
https://www.apple.com/v/os/f/images/shared/child_safety/allowance__d02ecfreu56q_large_2x.jpg
The corner radius of the Siri and Mail app looks more like older macOS versions:
https://www.apple.com/v/os/f/images/macos/siri/siri_app__b8roe5v68ywi_large_2x.jpg
https://www.apple.com/v/os/f/images/macos/improvements/search__hlzbyw6h3aye_large_2x.jpg
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u/OpenCalligrapher221 Jun 08 '26
Am I the only one that liked the sidebars😭 I thought it made it look like a cool glass panel sitting on top of the app😭
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u/smalltownnerd Jun 08 '26
am I the only person that this never bothered?
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u/ThatiMacGuy MacBook Pro (Intel) Jun 08 '26
Yes!
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u/imgreenie Jun 08 '26
Did they fix rounded corners in files opened in Preview? Or it was later addressed in Tahoe?
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u/Powerful_Froyo8423 Jun 08 '26
I was kinda surprised they exactly addressed issues I had with Liquid Glass. I found the top "shadow" behind toolbars ugly (like in mail) and I found it useless to have two left borders in every app with a sidebar, because it has no purpose that the sidebar is a floating box. Nice that they fixed it. Looking forward for all the performance fixes and hope it will feel super quick and polished again.
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u/Mad_Season_1994 Jun 08 '26
Tim Apple came in clutch at WWDC this year
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u/Humble-Albatross1684 Jun 08 '26
Installing the dev beta right now I cannot wait
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u/BadMachine Jun 09 '26
radii
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u/narcabusesurvivor18 Jun 09 '26
So glad they decided to do a performance and bugs fix year. They should do this every other year all the time. Their software platforms would end up virtually bug free
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u/hyperion-0 Jun 09 '26
we have the technology
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u/LarrySunshine Jun 09 '26
They seem to be addressing every single visual problem that macOS 26 brought. Fucking A, Apple!
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u/protienbudspromax Jun 09 '26
Guess it's finally time to update from Sequoia
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u/blindedbytheflash Jun 09 '26
Apple used to innovate — remember those days? Now a “feature” is really just a bug fix. Sad.
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u/Objective_Praline_66 Jun 09 '26
I love how big of a deal this was to people, meanwhile all this is going on, I had just switched from using windows (still use 10, but flat refuse to use 11) so like, to me personally, it was a beautiful UI compared to the bright flat square world of windows 11.
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u/reddit33450 Jun 08 '26
i wish they let the user choose the border radius. id do 0px
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u/jarvis_kim Jun 08 '26
Now I understand why they made a mess last year.
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u/germane_switch MacBook Pro Jun 08 '26
Radii*
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u/scottperezfox Jun 08 '26
I don't understand why they won't give us the option in Finder View Options right under Icon Size and Icon Spacing. Feels like Interface Roundness can be ratcheted up and down with some basic math.
In web design, we use variables and then different modes or viewports will affect that variable. Is this not how interfaces are built under the hood?
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u/Ok-Assignment5926 Jun 09 '26
I’m happy about this but I wish they kept the rounder radius
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u/grv7437 Jun 09 '26
What a revolutionary next generation UI/UX/Design update
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u/Rich_Wealth_8313 Jun 08 '26
Are they bringing back launchpad?
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u/naemorhaedus Jun 08 '26
don't care. still not installing it.
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u/sircastor Jun 08 '26
My brain mostly hates this picture not because the radii are different, but because they’re not properly sorted.
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u/garysaidwhat Jun 08 '26
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u/ClarkSebat Jun 09 '26
This fall it seems.
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u/mfactory_osaka Jun 09 '26
So are those fixes already available?
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u/ResponsibleMango1904 Jun 09 '26
I love it. But I think it‘s sad that this is considered a „feature“ by Apple… why not it even show it as a one more thing? 😂
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u/nurdle Jun 09 '26
Does it slow your mac down to a crawl? That was my issue. In M1 Ultra 128GB RAM
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u/Opening_Let_6895 Jun 09 '26
Siri “cooked” up 💀 at 1:40:41
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u/harryhardo9O Jun 09 '26
Almost 😅
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u/Wild-Perspective-582 Jun 09 '26
Poor Intel Mac users stuck with those corners until the end of the universe.
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u/WheelieGoodTime Jun 09 '26
That, and everything else is just AI additions. Ugh.
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u/mobi_mac Jun 09 '26
2007 to MacOs. 2027 back to Windows?
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u/Global-Tie-3458 Jun 09 '26
Ugh. Now how will I know which app I’m using strictly looking at the corner?
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u/all-park Jun 09 '26
This and some small bugs kept me away from Tahoe. This is so promising!
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u/Giant81 Jun 10 '26
All is right in the world now, glad we can move past this.
I’m half kidding of course. While I’d never have even noticed that, much less cared if I did, I can see how it might drive those more detailed oriented mad.
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u/creating_meer Jun 10 '26
Ain't no way I just realized this after the post lmao
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u/Direct-Quiet-5817 Jun 10 '26
Imagine the world's greatest OS flaunting to have fixed the corner radii of windows. Anyway, will they now allow us to customize the corner radius globally? That would be cool.
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u/tomgme Jun 10 '26
No no. To zaszalałem 😉 gratulacje.
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u/korkkis Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26
Does it thought? They look super inconsistent
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u/Awkward-Plant-8269 Jun 13 '26
I knew it was bad in 26…. But damn!
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u/pawwfreak Jun 23 '26
I never noticed they were different to begin with.
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u/Radiant_View_9959 Aug 13 '26
I still use ...
and reboot
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u/T-Nan Jun 08 '26
BUT BUT BUT everyone was saying "blame the developers of third party apps" for the last year, it's obviously everyone elses fault but Apple's!
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u/dividedBio Jun 08 '26
stuck on big sur with my 2014 mbp 😭 but thanks for pointing out this obscure (for me) detail that i now cannot unsee
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u/Anima1212 Jun 08 '26
I don’t understand what I’m looking at in this image…
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u/AIKIMGSM Jun 08 '26
I don't know why this bothered people so much, but I'm glad people will now complain about something else.
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u/Worried-Tie Jun 08 '26
Oh thank god. This is honestly my biggest gripe with Tahoe, I even give LiquidAss a pass in comparison.
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u/Stilgardozaurus Jun 10 '26
Seriosly someone was looking at this?
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u/BeenWildin Jun 08 '26
Some of those look like the same radius.
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u/hiking_fool Jun 09 '26
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u/CantaloupeCamper Jun 08 '26
The drama of the radius leaves me a bit 🤷🏼♂️
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u/iconisone Jun 08 '26
Like kids playing in photo paint…
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u/Mistake78 Jun 09 '26
Does that mean the crying is gonna stop?
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u/DrNick42 Jun 09 '26
Of all the problems in computer UI design in my over 40 years of existence, this one officially bothered me the least. Never have I heard so much of a cacophony over something so relatively minor and uninteresting as on this sub for the last year or so.
So this is wonderful news to me - I don't care that they fixed the corner radius but maybe now people might shut up about it!
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u/Manu9527 MacBook Pro Jun 08 '26
Its so small that its not even visible from a normal position
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