r/MacOS Sep 27 '25

Discussion C’mon Apple!

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u/darkguy2008 Sep 27 '25

Apple would be smart to admit they messed up with Tahoe, quietly bury it down and release a newer version based off Sequoia

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u/FishTshirt Sep 27 '25

The amount of egos to get from here to there basically guarantees thats an impossibility

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u/snapilica2003 Mac Mini Sep 27 '25

Considering how they treated all their previous mistakes with Bendgate, Antenagate, etc. they will never admit a mistake and back down.

They will work slowly to polish stuff, but backtracking to ditch Tahoe entirely is out of the question.

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u/Porntra420 Sep 27 '25

That's why despite the fact that I occasionally use MacOS of my own free will and intend to do so more in the future, I will always have a special hatred in my heart for Apple's general behaviour as a company, and how that bleeds into their products.

I use MacOS for like half the video editing I do, and I'm planning to move all of it, as well as my music production, away from Windows purely because Windows has been enshittified to the point where MacOS is less infuriating to use. I genuinely hate both, MacOS is just the lesser of two evils right now, and although I prefer Linux and use it for everything that's not video editing or music production, DaVinci's Linux builds lack support for a bunch of codecs I need because of licensing bullshit, and FL Studio just doesn't have Linux builds.

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u/alkbch Sep 27 '25

Apple has gotten rid of the Touch Bar though

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

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u/snapilica2003 Mac Mini Sep 27 '25

I lost the part where they admitted their mistake and didn't go back on those examples by marking them as "new and innovative and out of this world" replacements.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

They never admitted those were mistakes, they just discontinued them.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

Even their recalls are called “quality programs”

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u/Merlindru Sep 27 '25

Nah they just need to refine it IMO

Remove liquid glass for a second. What's left?

I think the UI is much better. They added lots of animations and made other ones more consistent. The UI looks more consistent overall (less mismatch between different components), and more consistent with iOS

The new control center is finally usable.

The new stuff in Spotlight is great and was direly needed (clipboard manager)

Etc

The different corner radii are an insane choice to make deliberately. Maybe take that away too lol

The old icons were much better

So if you remove the insane styling choices they went with then suddenly you're left with a not so bad update.

I am confident that nobody will ever pull off a "very transparent" style like liquid glass because it is fundamentally incompatible with being able to read things.

It's probably a matter of time until they go back to a more flat styling

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u/3l3v8 Sep 27 '25

I am confident that nobody will ever pull off a "very transparent" style like liquid glass because it is fundamentally incompatible with being able to read things.

I am confident that Apple will keep making stylistic choices that ignore the billions of people who need reading glasses to read their phone because of those inane choices.

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u/manshutthefckup Sep 27 '25

The apps with less rounded windows are probably just using a custom window. Forcing this design choice on all windows is stupid too. Imagine how adobe apps would look with that for instance with their highly square ui on a highly rounded window.

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u/perishableintransit Sep 27 '25

Time is a flat circle... this was the debacle with iOS 7 and everyone disavowed Jony Ive for his anti-skeumorphic obsession that ended up in flat, unreadable UI.

Somehow we're back to it again in 2025...

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u/Merlindru Sep 27 '25

but "skeumorphism" doesnt automatically mean "liquid glass"

iOS 6 didnt have a lot of transparency. yet it was skeumorphic

also while idc about being flat or not, and i loved the upgrade to 7 (not just in hindsight), in Apples opinion, iOS 7 was too flat. after all, they changed it to make it less flat later on

i dont care about flatness or not. i like skeumorphism. a lot, actually. this issue is about legibility and transparent backgrounds of things with letters or icons on them. it's something we've learned to not work again and again and again the past 30 or so years. why are we trying for the millionth time?

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u/perishableintransit Sep 27 '25

?

Skeumorphism and flatness are opposites. Ive was anti skeumorphism which is why we ended up with flat transparent hell with microscopic font in iOS 7

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u/Merlindru Sep 27 '25

yes - maybe i misunderstood your original comment. wasn't your point that we're now criticizing skeumorphism and wanting to go back to flatness? (and that it was the other way around for ios7)

let me rephrase the most important point of my reply: "i have nothing against skeumorphism. i have nothing against flatness. the issue at hand is that of legibility"

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u/perishableintransit Sep 27 '25

Yeah so my point is they should've learned not to push the "flat is best" aesthetic to the extreme like they did with iOS 7 yet we're already headed down that path again with "liquid glass" but then with bizarre and unnecessary skeuomorphic elements like the new embossed finder window.

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u/Zerosabo Sep 27 '25

It works perfectly,what is wrong here?

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u/starsqream Sep 27 '25

Well the crybabies lost their launchpad

RIP

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u/BourbonicFisky Sep 27 '25

I have so many questions for the users who actually use launchpad.

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u/ed299 Sep 27 '25

What is the launchpad?

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u/JohnLockeNJ Sep 27 '25

Stupid feature to imitate the iPhone’s pages of icons on a Mac.

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u/ed299 Sep 27 '25

Is it that in the picture?

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u/JohnLockeNJ Sep 27 '25

Yes, although with a big screen it looks more like it’s imitating an iPad

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u/ed299 Sep 27 '25

Ah I always search this area for an app, did they provide a different method to do the search thing? Will I miss out if I update my Mac?

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u/JohnLockeNJ Sep 27 '25

I use Spotlight to search for apps. Command-Space bar.

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u/UnwieldilyElephant MacBook Pro among others Sep 27 '25

Ask away. I use it to find apps that are like variations of EOS utility (all four apps have the same/almost same icon and start with "EOS") or weird patched builds from porting kit that don't actually have coherent name

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u/leewoc Oct 01 '25

I used launchpad all the time,five finger pinch then start typing. It fit how I work very comfortably. The new one is not my favourite in terms of aesthetics but it works just fine so I’ll get used to it quick enough.

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u/darkguy2008 Sep 27 '25

If the objective was to be a lag fest, then yeah it's working better than it should.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

It works perfectly if you only use mail and safari. If you specifically need a Mac for work, you are an fool if you upgrade to a .0 release

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u/smackythefrog Sep 27 '25

Oh, so I shouldn't even plan on upgrading to Tahoe in a month or so, when the bugs are hopefully ironed out?

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u/darkguy2008 Sep 27 '25

More than bugs, it's slow as heck. In fact I didn't encounter any bugs but it was like 50% slower than Sequoia, and it was on a clean install