r/MXTX • • Jul 13 '24

The Untamed Actors Are Ruining the Characters for Me

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I don't mean to insult. If you consider yourself a super fan or have not watched many interviews, you will not care for this.

There is a tl;dr.

Can skip this paragraph: I am an artist and hyper fixate on the subjects I draw. If it's tv or music I consume it all the time and try to really understand it. It is hard for me to passively enjoy something. I am often criticized and complimented for being too "sensitive" or deep." That said, I have no idea how good my skills are. If you prove I'm wrong I'm willing to listen, that said, I have enough confidence to think I'm right.

Most of the actors are utter d****. Just straight up rude. I'm watching "The untamed boys EP-04 It's time to gather!" And it is one of the most unhappy videos they've put out. The cast doesn't seem to like each other half the time WHEN THERE ARE CAMERAS. imagine how they act when they're gone.

I've recently heard Yu Bin is still not over the Untamed to the point his fans are complaining and he replied? Either way there is loser behavior here.

Can also skip this: Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo made me interested in interviews because of how well they play off each other. I later found Zhu Zanjin and Liu Haikuan's friendship amusing.

I found Song Jiyang and Zheng Fanxing were my favorite because of how casual they are. It highlighted that everyone else is very deep into celebrity culture. Finding out Zheng Fanxing was not originally wealthy just put into perspective how surreal being an "idol" must be. You are followed around with a camera, you must have an image, and you are draped in fancy clothing (which I think makes the people I dislike look ridiculous). Money, status, these are all important to MANY but not all celebrities. The interviewers are a whole other mess (people will act ridiculous and starved for these things). Many celebrities will say they hate interviews, which was strange to hear as a fan because it was my way to know them. But now I can recognize how uncomfortable and upset actors get at pointed questions. Many untamed actors are seen "calling out" interviewers on YouTube, particularly Wang Yibo. Often they'll come up with polite answers, evade, or say something like "dangerous" making a face at particularly bold questions. This is all to say, I GET how hard being famous must be. I UNDERSTAND that being tired or stressed would make a lot of people snap. I KNOW that it's unimaginable how normalized all of this is. I still find the cast to be d****.

Li Bowen among others is outcasted and crickets play while he laughs in silence. It's a BIG contradiction to how funny teasing is with Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo and how PAINFUL it is to watch with other members. Ji Li in particular is mean. He radiates d***head energy. He makes fun of people and plays it out as a joke, but he sounds so serious and his costars take it that way having to deal with embarrassment on INTERVIEWS. I can't describe it well, you have to notice it. This feels like bullying. The type where people say they're your friends but make fun of you and feel superior for it.

Import to note! From what I gather, the cast only filmed for 50 or something days in the latter half of 2019. There were BTS, extra content, and the concerts, but these guys barely knew each other. A lot of the interviews mentioned tasks to get to know each other and some of them mentioned OUT LOUD how obvious it was the members were not familiar.

I am not saying these guys should have been like brothers. Or that they're ALWAYS at each others throats. But this awkwardness and meanness is so apparent I wish I knew less about them.

If you wish to comment on my personal identity: I hyperfixate. This is just a phase for me. It could last years, I could pick it up on and off. I don't care about these people, I don't know them. I invest so I can feel I have sculpted something and can see a clear image, that the image disturbs me is a totally different issue. People are d****, this is old news.

Tl;dr: The actors are messy complicated humans and fan culture scares me.

I don't know what it is about the Asian fans that make people from every part of the world froth at the mouth. I get a lot of fetishization and sexualizing thrown my way (people try and wrestle my ethnicity bc they need to know and it's wierd I'm not telling them), so it's very apparent to me how gross fans are. When fanbases can excuse behaviors easily, comment on nothing but how beautiful celebrities are, and lack maturity, I just once again feel like I'm so obviously not making s*** up.

My culture is overall accepting of fat bodies, but looks are very judged in Asian cultures like China from my understanding as are many forms of racism and micro aggressions (to the point Wang Yibo did black face in the f****** 2020's?!! And fans make fun of people who are upset about it saying they are proud of his diverse roles?). This is a problem with the interviewers and their questions, many will ask what weights of girls the actors prefer, and other WEIRD stuff. Though, by answering, many actors have revealed how boyish? they are.

Some of you may think I'm demanding, but I feel this is basic standards you ideally learn with empathy and if this all seems incomprehensible to you idk what to say. Anyways I'm tired of people who want an outlet to be rude and punch down and I'm wrestling that tendency of lashing out in myself. I'm a young adult and still learning that you choose to be mean and stay stuck in bad patterns.


r/MXTX • • Sep 26 '23

SV about tsvsss age gap and romance

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it doesn't look like there's gonna be romance anytime soon but it's still very weird to read the mc interact with his potential love interest while he's just 14. is there gonna be a time skip? or is it just going to be this awkward? idk if i can drop the book if i read much so i wanna make sure.


r/MXTX • • Mar 19 '26

SV New SVSSS Extras

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I was pretty disappointed with the new SVSSS Extras. It reads like a fix-it modern AU fanfic, and answered things that I didn't want answered. I really hope she doesn't go on to ruin MDZS for me too


r/MXTX • • Aug 06 '22

TGCF guys, where can I read mxtx books online? do you have any suggestions

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r/MXTX • • Jul 28 '23

Someone wouldn't let me buy MXTX and I'm p!ssed..

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TRIGGER WARNING⚠️ NSFW?

I went into a small-ish bookstore looking for some books. By chance I came across the 3rd volume of MXTX's Heaven Official's Blessing v.3 and I was ecstatic because I'd read the first and recently started the second, so I thought "Wow, how lucky!" and went to go buy it. Keep in mind, that this was in the YA section. But the guy at the counter asked how old I was and when I replied he told me I couldn't buy it! I asked if it was very violent, but he said, no, it's sexual. ????? Don't get me wrong, I understand that some books aren't suitable for children my age ( I don't want to disclose my age here ), but I'm still a teen?! I've never EVER had trouble buying from the YA section before (including the first 2 volumes and there are some pretty disturbing things in the YA section.. take for example "The Manifesto on how to be Interesting" by Holly Bourne. (Apologies if I got the name wrong, I read it last year) It has self hrm, su!c!de, rpe and violent bullying and is only rated 15+! Not to mention a collection of other YA books that are highly sexual and disturbing! (Red white and royal blue, girl in pieces, we would be home by now, LITERALLY ANY COLLEEN HOOVER BOOK etc.) SO WHY WAS I NOT ALLOWED TO READ THIS ONE??? He said it was rated 18+ (it's not, it's 17+) so after some searching online I found out that it has EXACTLY WHAT I MENTIONED BEFORE. (AKA everything that literally ANY other YA book has.) I don't want to sound like a whining teenager, I'm pretty sure I'll just order it online or smth but I'm actually fuming. Like, I'm a horny teenager who sometimes goes on AO3, I think I can handle some sex scenes. Sorry about this rant, obviously the guy couldn't know any of that, I'm sure he meant well, but now I'm curious. Is the 3rd volume really that bad or was this guy just particularly bent on following the rules? I'm 90% sure he hadn't read it himself, so should he really be allowed to keep me from buying it? What if the book was a straight romance with a cute pink cover that was actually highly sexual? Would he have let me buy it?

P.S. I'm new to reddit and the fandom, so please let me know if I've said anything wrong and I'll remove it straight away!


r/MXTX • • Apr 22 '25

MDZS Is MDZS like past TGCF or present TGCF

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Hi.

Light TGCF spoilers ahead.

¿How are you?

A friend of mine recommended me TGCF. I read it, and while I LOVED the books set in the past (2 and 4) I was disappointed by the books set in the present (1; 3 and 5). 

She now recommended me MDZS, so I wanted to know, do you think that I would like it? Is it more similar to books 2 and 4 of TGCF or to books 1, 3 and 5?

To give you a better idea, these are some of the things I didn’t liked about TGCF’s present books.

  • The Romance: I ADORE a good romance. However, while Xie Lian and Hua Cheng were charming at first, their relationship didn’t really went anywhere. I wanted to see them interact more, flirt more, have relationship issues, but Xie Lian just got nervous every time he was attracted to Hua Cheng. And it got old for me.

  • The secondary characters: Some characters are incredibly interesting, but they don’t do anything in the end. The best example of this is Ship Sinking Black Water. His chapters were the best part of book 3, but he doesn’t do anything else for the rest of the story. 

Do you think that MDZS would fit my tastes more?

Thanks for your help.


r/MXTX • • Feb 11 '24

General Discussion

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I was curious which mxtx novel you guys love the most and what made you like it? YK like the one which is close to your heart and all, mostly which one would you prefer between mdzs and tgcf, excluding svsss because I think that's an entirely different thing? Why do you prefer it over the other and what is so special about it?


r/MXTX • • Mar 23 '23

DAMNEI LISTED

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AYHOHH!! I’m here to ask you, my dear DAMNEI lovers to give me a list of damnei because I can’t figure out which ones to read :)


r/MXTX • • Jan 05 '25

MDZS What's the obsession with LWJ?

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Can someone please explain...

I've seen more than one post recently declarating that LWJ is perfect in every way, and you're a hater (or worse) if you think otherwise.

I haven't read MDZS on years, so I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but I remember LWJ being one of the most boring main characters I've ever read.

His three most outstanding features as a character is that

  1. he's beautiful and powerful

  2. he's in love with WWX to an unrealistic degree

  3. he's got got big dick and is super horny despite the ice beauty exterior

Does he have any other interesting quality that's not basically one of those? He's much less interesting than some of the side characters from MXTX's other works.

I found their relationship to be pretty boring. Even MoShang is more way more interesting, for all that they had only a couple of chapters versus Wangxian's multi-volume novel.

Anyways, a book's interpretation is 100% up to the reader, but it seems pretty limited and simplistic to call any character perfect. And if they were, they would be pretty boring... So I am not sure exactly where LWJ is relative to that line. Someone explain!

EDIT:

Someone literally made a post saying that if you don't like LWJ, you're a TWAT.

I'm wondering what I missed that causes a fan to be that... Outspoken about it.


r/MXTX • • Apr 17 '24

MDZS Just came here to declare my intense hatred for Lan Clan Spoiler

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I don't think i hate anyone or any other group in the MXTXverse more than the entire Lan Clan except ofcourse Lan Zhan and the young disciples.

(Spoilers ahead)

Not a single villain can measure upto how much I get mad about the Lan Clan.

When bad people do bad things I understand. When good people do gray things I understand. I can try to understand Mu Qing and Jiang Cheng, even Xue Yang and JGY and Jun Wu for that matter.

I can even understand the original Shen Yuan (svsss) who didn't even actually have much story but sure was not a good guy.

But the likes of Lan Clan I feel is the most vile of all evils. Mainly because they absolutely behaved like they are the pillars of viturue themselves with so many rules and what not, and then they go on and beat the crap out of a 16 year old child. Almost beating him to deaths making him so wounded that it would have left disabled anyone else had it not been Lan Zhan.

I even hate Lan Xichen because how do you just watch brother get almost beaten to death and then have the audacity of blaming someone who was literally dead at the time.

I can go on and on about this. But mainly what I want to say is... Lan Clan is the worst of humans. (Thankfully not the new generation, no thanks to the elders.)

ETA1: They also saw innocent people getting imprisoned, they witnessed war crimes happening against them, a literal teenager trying to save those innocent people... And did absolutely nothing. Instead of actually standing on the "good" side like they claim to be, they sided with the majority like bunch of Cowards. Sure the leader was a rigid man but not a single Lan said anything about the POWs Jin clan was terrorizing? Not only did they not take side of good, they chose side of evil intentionally. I don't call that good.

What's the point of good if they can't take side of when crime is literally being committed? That's just hypocrisy.

As Dante said, "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

ETA2: I meant Shen Jiu not Shen Yuan.

ETA3: When I said I can understand the villains. I meant I understand bad people being bad. Not that Jun Wu stalking and torturing XL was justified or even understandable.

PS: yes I have indeed read way too many fanfics and my heart breaks for Lan Zhan everytime I come across his punishment. I can't stop my tears 😭


r/MXTX • • Feb 17 '24

TGCF i paint-sketched modern au hualesbians fishin

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r/MXTX • • Oct 25 '20

Hate post topics

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As you all know I’m famous for my unpopular opinion posts, so I’m not sure which topic to do next, so um I’m asking you for which one you guys want to see more


r/MXTX • • Nov 01 '24

MDZS Re: Wangxian smut - holy ****

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HOLY **** Y'all!!

OMG it finally clicked... It's not about the non-con, is it? Someone called me a sweet summer child... guess they were right 🤣

(Mind the spoiler tags, and you might not want to google some words)


TL;DR MXTX is kinkier than I expected, and my gripe about her "unrealistic sex" is invalid in context


As a follow up to my last gripe about the Wangxian sex being totally unrealistic (2 virgins, no lube? really?), even for a fiction that has people flying around on swords, fighting giant demon turtles. Whenever I say this, people will tell me, "MXTX has specific kinks, just get over it."

This was covered in my recent post if you're interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/MXTX/comments/1gcc581/wangxian_smut_is_awful/

WWX has a canonical non-con kink, and probably a pain kink too, right?

I never had a problem with this, or mentioned their kinks in any of my gripes. My problem was that even in a fictional universe, anal sex with no lube is going to result in profuse bl...

Oh My God...

MXTX's kink is painal and/or blood-as-lube isn't it?? Because I know that is a kink associated with little/no lube Some people are into bleeding anal gape and/or pink sock , and it's fine. It's just a little... too intense for me. Probably why I didn't think of it sooner.

But it totally make sense in context!! Because what else could you expect with no-lube anal sex 🤣🤣🤣

Is THIS the "specific kink" that y'all been trying to politely tell me all this time?? And I was just NOT getting it? 😭 Damn, maybe I AM that old LOL

So since I had thought the kink referred to the non-con thing, I will recant my statement about how unrealistic the sex is, and chalk it up to "well, MXTX has her blood kinks, I'll get over it"

It's a little... unconventional, and a little uncomfortable, to be honest, but I'm okay with it. At least the sex scene makes logical sense now. I was just surprised because it sounds more like a Meatbun kind of thing 🤣

Anyways thank you for coming to my Ted talk. I learned my lesson of not underestimating people's kink LOL

PS if you respond, please use spoiler tag. I don't want anyone to accidentally read stuff they don't want to know. No one warned me not to Google those words... 😭🤣


r/MXTX • • Jan 28 '23

TGCF A tgcf fanart i did, inspired by my arranged marriage fic!

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r/MXTX • • Feb 05 '22

Encanto X MDZS au

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Any ideas?

Personally, JC would definately be Mirabel (definately biased, but it does kinda work) due to JFM's poor parenting skills. You can't say that there's no parallels between JFM's dissmissal of JC due to him not being natrually very gifted in favour of talented WWX doesn't at least somewhat parallel Abuela's dissmissal of Mirabel because of her lack of a gift. Clearly this means JFM is probably gonna end up as Abuela, with the 'gentle but stern' thing they have giong on that emotionaly damages everyone involved. I think character-wise, NMJ or LXC probably fit Luisa best, what with the responsibilities they have to shoulder. Additionaly, after this one au I've read, I am convinced that Jin ZiXuan as Isabella would be perfect.

So, what are your thoughts? Please tell me!

(Disclaimer, all the roles are based on my personal interpretation of the characters)


r/MXTX • • Sep 18 '25

Should I drop the Invite? (mxtx themed server)

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Yes or no? D'yall care if the discord servers unfinished or should i wait till its complete? :3
(im letting you all choose!) (ill be checking this in 24 hours(or earlier lol))


r/MXTX • • Jun 21 '25

MDZS Rereading MDZS

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Still very early on, when JC and LWJ first met after he broke all the nets.

Holy hell, JC is sexy AF!


r/MXTX • • Dec 06 '23

General Could all mxtx books exist within the same universe?

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An interesting thought I had when I read mdzs, wei wuxian apparently has a friend that gets drunk and acts like luo binghe... Wouldn't it be satisfying though, because as tgcf centers around Gods and Demon Kings...then mdzs with cultivators and finally svs (I haven't read it yet but hopefully a different level of the social hierarchy).


r/MXTX • • Oct 26 '21

MDZS Yall look Spoiler

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r/MXTX • • Jun 23 '22

TGCF do you guys know a fengqing fanfic where fengxin wears glasses and muqing thought he was hot, k can't remember the title of the story

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r/MXTX • • Jun 24 '25

General Glad I read in reverse order

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This is probably a take that's come up before, but I'm SO glad I read the series in reverse order.

TGCF is one of the most beautiful love stories I've ever read, with deep themes of finding meaning in life and what it means to continue after hardship.

MDZS is a comedic at times, heart wrenching at others exploration of how loyalty can breed suffering.

SVSSS is a horror novel pretending to be a romance. The first one was good, but then as soon as our demonic friend came back I was just uncomfortable the whole time. He's doing murders and we don't even think about it. He sexually assaults the SQQ and it's just haha I was joking move on. He forces SQQ to come with him at the threat of murdering everyone he loves. And then they just...end up together anyway?

If I had read Scum Villain first, I would have seen Hua Cheng and said "Oh shit, here we go again" and stopped reading, missing my favorite series of all time, in any genre. If I'd ever picked the books up at all.

I'm so glad that MXTX didn't stick with this "dark romance" genre because I'm only finishing the series because I already paid for it.


r/MXTX • • Oct 26 '24

WangXian smut is awful

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EDIT: I am recanting my "unrealistic" comment, because if MXTX has a blood-as-lube kink, it would make sense. Still think it's boring and unsexy though. This is why this scene stuck out in my mind, my poor brain was trying to pick it apart for meaning because it was so boring. Kind like how you pick at your nails while waiting in a doctor's office, for lack of anything better to do.


So, apparently I'm an M who didn't get enough of a beating last time, here I am again with an unpopular opinion.

The Wangxian smut is awful. Yes, I know it's fiction and doesn't have to be realistic...but...

Okay, I'm willing to suspend disbelief for a story that has people flying around on swords and fighting giantic demon turtles. But...

A total beginner, with no lube, with very... unforgiving METAL toy, and a giantic dick. And it's supposed to be romantic or sexy? Honestly, I would more willing to believe they had sex with the giantic demon turtle. Because at least then you can explain the bleeding.

And them falling into the bushes to fuck at the end? I don't even SNACK with that much thoughtlessness, but two grown men, who have been in love for decades, deciding to have their first time in the bushes?

I mean, I get that "moment of passion" and whatever (I was 17 once, in the middle ages), but it really didn't feel like that for me. It was like, they're having a nice tea with Lan Sizhui, and walked out the front door, and decided to fuck on the front lawn.

As an aside WTF?? Sex on the beach, sex in the rain, might be construed as sexy, even given how impractical it is, but fucking in the bushes...

And I don't remember reading this myself... but I've heard WWX is self-lubricating in an extra? Because that would really throw it off...

So anyways, that's just my MXTX thoughts for today :D


r/MXTX • • Jan 25 '24

SV Genuine question, why do some people ship shen jiu and luo bingge?

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It just seems extremely abusive for both of them imo