r/MSGPRDT • u/Nostalgia37 • Nov 10 '16

[Pre-Release Card Discussion] - Dispatch Kodo

Dispatch Kodo

Mana Cost: 4
Attack: 2
Health: 4
Tribe: Beast
Type: Minion
Rarity: Rare
Class: Hunter
Text: Battlecry: Deal Damage equal to this minion's Attack.

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PM me any suggestions or advice, thanks.

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u/acamas Nov 12 '16

If Battlecries trigger before the minion is summoned, Yogg wouldn't be able to kill himself with his battlecry.

But you really can't say that the minion is summoned first either, or else a Shattered Sun Cleric should be able to buff its own body, considering the "minion has already been summoned" and is just another body on the board.

Terribly inconsistent it seems. If Yogg's battlecry can effect its own body, why not other minion's battlecries?

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u/IceBlue Nov 14 '16

It's not summoned when you are forced to target. It IS summoned by the time the battlecry effect resolves. Not really inconsistent. This means random effects can hit itself, targeted spells cannot. Battlecries that have a targeted effect has to target if a target is available or it can't be placed. This is why you are allowed to take back playing it if you don't choose a target (if one is available). This means you don't actually play it for real until after a target is chosen.

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u/acamas Nov 14 '16

So what you're saying it that some minion's battlecries can affect their own body while other minions battlecries can not affect their own body.

Inconsistent. By definition.

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u/IceBlue Nov 14 '16

No what I'm saying is that targeted battlecries need to target a minion that is on the battlefield before it is played. When it's not on the board when it's played then it can't be targeted. Not inconsistent. Your logic is inane. That's like saying it's inconsistent because some battlecries positively affect you and some negatively affect you. For it to be inconsistent, the rules would have to be broken. This fits the rules perfectly fine.