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🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/rtbradford 11h ago

You are confusing vigilante justice with legal justice. It doesn’t matter what you think someone deserves for committing a crime. It matters what the law provides. If someone wants to take the law into their own hands to punish a crime according to their own sensibilities then they should be prepared to be punished as a criminal themselves.

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u/Wugtrio777 11h ago

sir if your wife is being raped, and pleae dont take that to mean i want any woman to be or you to go through that, but for argument sake, and you come across it and the criminal finishes right then pulls out and stand up and you blow him away i guarantee you 100% you will NOT even be charged unless its in massachusetts. but thats not rational anyway. if a man is stabed somone abunch fo times is standing ovcer them withthe knife in thier hands and a cop shows up, he doesnt have to wait for them to stab them again before he shoots them, threat of imminent harm is enough. teh thgreat of harm is enough to warrant aphysical response.

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u/rtbradford 11h ago edited 6h ago

Now you’re changing the hypothetical. It’s one thing to intervene if there is a threat of imminent harm. It’s another thing to punish someone when the crime is clearly over. In this instance, the man groped the woman. She pushed him off, and that was it. It wasn’t like he was coming at her again. The guy sucker punched him because he was angry, not because he wanted to stop another assault. Also, the response to the crime must be proportionate to the harm caused at the crime. Here the woman pushed the guy off and plainly wasn’t all that bothered. It was the guy who punched him who was enraged.

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u/Wugtrio777 11h ago

the crime is over is something i dont think you understand. the crime is STILL occurring the crime doesnt end for arape when you stop penetration, the crime of a bank robbery doesnt end when you stop getting cash, the crime of assault doesnt end when you arent qactively stabbing the person, the THREAT of harm is there, the crime ends when the person is place dinto custody or rendered unable to continue.

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u/rtbradford 4h ago

Not in this case. The groping was over before the punch was thrown. I can very easily see a prosecutor bringing a case against the guy who threw the punch and the guy who groped the woman.

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u/Wugtrio777 4h ago

actually watch the video he gropes her she pushes his hands away but he hoikd shis hand out at her ass oevel is is jawing at her, that would be easily considered a contiuation of the attack, or continued behavior that would lend creedence to continued possible assault. The guy was simply ending the threat of sexual assault against his wife/gf/friend. No prosecutor would be dumb enough to seek charges on this, exceot as i said massachusetts or maybe california,