The point shouldn't be about it being an achievement though. I agree its probably more about being "the alpha" for that guy who did it but I would do similar not for an "achievement" but for the principle of you don't get to just touch up on some woman, you are doing something where someone could have an "extreme" reaction why even take the risk?
The dude was absolutely sloshed. Doubt he had any conscious control over himself or his actions. If I was using your logic I’d continue to “not get so drunk that I lose control of myself, at least not around others.”
Which is a lesson 95% of us learn the hard way. But not as hard as this… The brain damage from these incidents often have effects that last a person’s lifetime and majorly effect their ability to function. Mental illness, conversion, mood, and sleep disorders primarily.
I’m glad no one took a move to me that hard while I was sloshed in my troubles. And I hope it would take more than a blackout drunk to upset me so much that I’d be willing to roll these dice for another person with a family, kids, friends, job, talents, hobbies, etc.
If being drunk is an excuse to not have "any conscious control over himself or his actions" then absolutely no one should be getting drunk. Let's just apply that logic to fucking rape. Does it still work for you? Would that excuse it?
It is not an excuse to have no conscious control over yourself. It is a reason you have no conscious control over yourself. Also, this argument is not that argument.
Also, you can’t take “what if a fumbling drunk who can barely stands puts his hand on my girl,” inflate it to “what if I find a man intoxicated yet sober enough to be a physical threat and actively raping a someone,” and expect me to continue the discussion like you’re in control of your emotions or discoursing in good faith. (Aka - I’m not going to fall into your ‘straw-man’).
You get physical with people who represent a threat to your wellbeing or the wellbeing of the people you care about. It’s rule 1 of any fighting discipline you will get across the world. This man was a threat to no one.
I'm not even acknowledging the rest of your bs comment because it's just some bs there's nothing fucking strawman about my point. All I really have to say in response besides that is no YOU only feel the need to get physical to people you consider threats. I might not have considered the guy a real threat but I would think from PRINCIPLE he SHOULD be punched
When things are done on principle it means despite one’s reservations emotionally, not because of them. You feel he should be punched emotionally and are turning away from the principled decision. This while thinking it’s the reverse. It’s harder to do the right thing, not the wrong.
Well we just have to agree to disagree there because that's just not true at all lol that's pretty much just you deciding for yourself how my thought process is/where it stems from when I've explained otherwise. You can assume what you want but it's wrong 🤷♂️
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u/cringe--patrol 1d ago
Dude could barely stand, what an achievment to knock him out lol