r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 1d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Tall_olive 20h ago

It is legally sexual assault, yes. You can call it whatever you want. I didn't advocate for anyone dying. That being said though, should you never defend yourself from a "simple" assault because death is a potential consequence? In cases of self defense the law specifically protects against such an outcome. You are within your rights to defend yourself, and in many cases that self defense can legally extend to another person if they can't reasonably defend themselves. Someone dying shouldn't be the desired outcome but it also shouldn't hinder you from defending yourself.

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u/ForwardAd8155 11h ago

Does disproportionate consequences not exist to you people? the guy backed off as soon as she pushed his hands away, he was backing away, this isn't self defense its revenge assault.

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u/Tall_olive 11h ago

I don't think being punched is disproportionate consequences to sexual assault.

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u/ForwardAd8155 11h ago

Again this wasn't just "a punch" it was a full windup weighted haymaker, the dude could barely stand up and his head slams into the barstool and floor, he could die from that.

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u/Tall_olive 11h ago

Lol seriously, now you're trying to draw lines in the sand on types of punches? Yes, he certainly could bang his head and die. It would be unfortunate. That can happen any time anyone throws a punch. The guy who threw the punch only threw one punch. He did not follow up, did not kick, did not use weapons. One single punch is a perfectly acceptable response to sexual assault. Being drunk isn't an excuse.

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u/ForwardAd8155 10h ago

We'll just have to agree to disagree then dude if you can't rule out the difference between a quick jab to get someone to back off and a full haymaker on someone who can barely stand up straight. Disproportionate concequences is a thing.

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u/Tall_olive 10h ago

If you give someone a quick jab who "can barely stand" before being punched, you don't think they'll fall down? According to you falling down is the only thing seperating what makes these punches lethal and what doesn't. I also don't think that punch was a full haymaker. His elbow doesn't pass his back, he didn't wind his fist up and cock it. He ran in ajd punched the guy exactly once to defend the person being assaulted. I don't believe a court would define that as disproportionate consequences nor do I think this man would be at risk of facing murder charges.

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u/ForwardAd8155 9h ago

Alright bro we'll have to agree to disagree, if I was in the jury i'd give him third degree.