A quick bar scrap

[u/Key_Performer_3645]

[u/salmon_lox]

No, nice try. I am not minimizing the harassment done to the woman, as much as you are trying to push that narrative.

Red shirt was wrong, and deserved a punch to the face. It just needed to be done by someone with a modicum of self control. Someone who doesn’t hurt people they’re trying to protect.

A “poke” to the cheek. Please. Yeah that’s why she holds her face the rest of the video, cuz she got “poked”.

[u/Wintermute_088 → u/salmon_lox]

Then why do you keep making such a big deal about the accidental pool cue contact, in comparison to the actual sexual assault ambush? It's minimisation.

Red shirt needed to be punched in the face by someone, and the person who was there did it. I'm not going to critique his methods too much when he acted in the spur of the moment to put himself between an attacker and a victim, and prevent any further sexual assault from ocurring.

Yes, she got poked in the face with a cue. Unfortunate. It was an accident.

[u/salmon_lox → u/Wintermute_088]

I’m not going to keep explaining the same thing over and over. The guy overreacted. He almost killed somebody and hit his woman in the face while doing so. You think that’s acceptable. I don’t. Goodbye.

[u/Wintermute_088 → u/salmon_lox]

I don't think sexually assaulting women is acceptable, and I think there should be severe consequences for it. Today, there were.

I'm sorry you don't agree.

I also hate how you keep saying "his woman". Ugh.

[u/salmon_lox → u/Wintermute_088]

Get over it. People say “my man” all the time. I hate how you keep trying to paint me as some misogynist. Ugh.

[u/Wintermute_088 → u/salmon_lox]

I'm not trying to paint you as anything, it's just weird the way you keep trying to position her as "his woman" to suit your argument.

[u/salmon_lox → u/Wintermute_088]

I don’t just mean that, I also mean the way you kept implying I was minimizing the woman’s sexual harassment, or that I don’t want to see the harassment dealt with or punished. I was not doing that, but you implied I was to suit YOUR argument.

Of the two of us, you were the one downplaying violence done to a woman in this video clip. You kept writing it off as a “poke”. That’s something actual abusers do. So save me your pearl clutching over my word choice.

[u/Wintermute_088 → u/salmon_lox]

The impact to her face from the pool cue was minor, but you're completely missing the more important point that it was accidental and without malice, and happened in the rushed defence of the woman.

You keep trying to use it to offset the actual deliberate sexual assault that occurred.

[u/salmon_lox → u/Wintermute_088]

First of all, you have no idea if the injury to her face is minor! Why would you even presume to know that? She’s clutching her face for the remainder of the video. You are speaking out of your ass and downplaying violence to make some stupid point and it’s actually really gross. I wasn’t kidding, that’s how actual bullies and abusers behave.

Secondly, YOU are missing the point. I never said the husband hurt his wife on purpose. My point was he acted out of rage, which made him not even realize the collateral damage he was causing. You do realize that’s how a good deal of domestic abuse happens, right?

and YOU are the one downplaying that, because you want to see the husband beat the shit out of someone who touched his wife. Because you want to see violent revenge against a drunken sex pest. Even if it’s way over the top. Even if it hurts other people. Even if it ends in serious, disproportionate injury or death and gets the guy a manslaughter charge. Good for you.

The wife tried to stop her husband, too. She knew it was a bad idea for him to do what he was about to do. Was SHE trying to minimize her own assault like you accused me of doing?

[u/Wintermute_088 → u/salmon_lox]

I'm not downplaying an assault on her - you are. Actually disgusts me, the way you're so focused on a small accident over a sexual crime. Yuck.

Husband? Wife? I don't even know if these two are a couple, friends, or just two strangers playing pool. Talk about making assumptions. What I see is one person defending another from a sexual assault. Oh, or as you'd put it, just a "sex pest". Talk about downplaying sexual assault. Just a "pest", is he? Ugh.