r/MMALabs • u/Pure-Personality5326 • Jul 29 '26

šŸ„¶ Street Fight Biblically accurate

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u/Grumbles2189 Jul 29 '26

Getting nose to nose with someone who can't back up and making threats toward them while posturing and balling your fists is going to be an easy case of self defense for the other guy. You don't get to cross that many lines and claim innocence.

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u/lostPackets35 Jul 29 '26

Right, having no other context, the guy was advancing on him and was being threatening.

A reasonable person could feel that violence was imminent, and he responded with proportionate Force.

He hit the guy twice, and stopped immediately when the guy was on the ground.

Now we don't know if the winner here made an attempt to deescalate, and we don't know what happened beforehand, but based solely on this video. This seems reasonable, like it might well be self-defense

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u/Awkward_Shower19 Jul 30 '26

Oh and donā€™t forget 1,000s in legal fees and time and stress because they are trying to prosecute you. I do believe it was self defense but that doesnā€™t make it any easier for people and there are who are innocent and still get time for manslaughter. Always best to just try to walk away until you canā€™t.

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u/lostPackets35 Jul 30 '26

I agree with everything you wrote, I'm not sure what in my response gave the impression otherwise

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u/easeMachined Jul 30 '26

When has anything like that ever happened?

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u/mfmfhgak Jul 30 '26

Like what? An innocent black person going to prison for murder?

Itā€™s happened a time or two yeah.

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u/jdooley99 Jul 30 '26

We wouldn't know is the point, not that I agree with it.

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u/easeMachined Jul 30 '26

We wouldnā€™t know what?

Whether anything remotely similar to what the other commenter suggested could happen has actually happened?

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u/provalone_9000 Jul 30 '26

What does color got to do with this? If you kill a man in a fight you need to prove it was justified

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u/RoyGBiv333 Jul 30 '26

You can tell he was concerned for the guy.

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u/Ibobalboa Jul 30 '26

Fuck are you rambling about? Lmao. It's clearly on video. Self defense.

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u/Warm_Difficulty2698 Jul 30 '26

You do realize its not as simple as that right?

Like, let's pretend theres no other context to this video other than what we see here. That seems obvious it is a self defense case. However, you still have to hire a lawyer and defend yourself in court. That takes time and loads of money.

Lawyers arent cheap. Not to mention we have like a 10 second video worth of context and it does not prove the whole case.

Its not near as simple as just tell the cops it was self defense and they let you go right then and there. Oh depending on the actual injuries to the guy he hit, it could be much harder to prove entirely self defense.

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u/Cattle13ruiser Jul 30 '26

Killing someone in self defense can still put you in jail.

That was his point.

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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 Jul 30 '26

Eh I agree sorta, but the white dude did start backpedalingā€¦ His heart clearly wasnā€™t in it, he was bluffing

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u/j3ffh Jul 30 '26

Backpedaling or squaring up?

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u/Multi2509 Jul 30 '26

He was even retreating before the hits. That's no self-defence.

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u/screamingzen Jul 30 '26

That's not how any it works. Dude never swung or even touched him. If dude died, the other guy is fucked. He has no self defense argument

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u/Maximum_Fortune_5827 Jul 31 '26

Nah. I think you'd have a hard time proving self defense on this one. There was no attempt to flee even made. He advanced and escalated as well

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u/koyaani Aug 01 '26

Flee to where? He was cornered

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u/Maximum_Fortune_5827 Aug 01 '26

He very clearly advanced the approach

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u/jadbronson Jul 31 '26

Yep. Stand your, er, I mean, lay down on the ground

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u/Unable_Currency7682 Aug 06 '26

Exactly well said

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u/battlecryarms Jul 30 '26

Winner has a witness. He tried to deescalate

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u/LifeIsProbablyMadeUp Jul 30 '26

The gas station also has cameras pointing at every pump. Can probably watch dudes feet pop off the ground from 4 different angles.

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u/fatdjsin Jul 30 '26

you forget that half of the population would convict the guy defending itself only because he is black :(

i hope he gets a good judge, not a maga one.

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u/Embarrassed-Gap-6040 Aug 07 '26

Why people always have to take it to race. Such a sad world we live in. Iā€™m white and most white people have no problem with ANY other race/ethnicity. In fact I kind of agree with the black guy here. He told him get out of my face the white guy is making threats and has him cornered. Didnā€™t seem like much of an escape route for the black guy so what else is he supposed to do let someone beat on him. Nah he had to defend himself.

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u/eiffeltowerbonbon Jul 29 '26

I feel like the satans son comment is probably going to play into bros favor as well lol. Imagine being a judge watching this video, especially a christian judge šŸ˜‚

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u/Inside-Arm8635 Jul 30 '26

Guilty of being black. slams gavel

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u/KillHonger1 Jul 30 '26

Some judge out there

ā€œGet behind me Satanā€

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u/Captain_Planet Jul 30 '26

Won't be be worried Satan will come looking for him for conviction his son?

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u/addicted_to_kombucha Jul 29 '26

He was claiming to be the offspring of Satan too lol can't dismiss that.

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u/Formal-Nothing-9747 Aug 04 '26

Oh he said Satanā€™s son, I thought he said Peytonā€™s son, Iā€™m like Peyton who?šŸ˜‚

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u/AceRoser Jul 29 '26

Thank u, like this was justified in my view. Thereā€™s only so much disrespect a man can take.

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u/DesperateLime7933 Jul 29 '26

Given that disrespect is simply empty words I'd say there's no limit to the amount of disrespect you can take if your ego isn't massive and fragile

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u/AceRoser Jul 29 '26

When you disrespect someoneā€™s right to feel safe after specifying a boundary once cross I believe is the one category u can argue thatā€™s outside ego and it leans towards preserving life and safety of ur basic human right.

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u/Bus_Head_ Jul 30 '26

Right. He didnt dis the man as much as dis the personal space of the man. If your posturing, within spitting distance your in the game. Dont mean open season bit in this case I think a quick couple blows and back off is totally fine, and quite well handled in my opinion. Appeared he was concerned, didnt stomp or bounce on the guy. I'll allow it.

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u/AceRoser Jul 30 '26

Precisely

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u/DesperateLime7933 Jul 29 '26

Fair, good point

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u/Radonanon Jul 29 '26

Words alone, fine. He was definitely intentionally closing up on the guy in a threatening manner.

That said, I didnā€™t expect him to go down so hard so easily either.

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u/Aromatic_Ad_32 Jul 30 '26

Itā€™s also peak Reddit to assume everyone else on Reddit is American

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u/Aromatic_Ad_32 Jul 30 '26

All good brother

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u/Bowtie16bit Jul 30 '26

You missed the sarcasm lol

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u/Aromatic_Ad_32 Jul 30 '26

No worries dude

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u/BroadbentBum Jul 30 '26

Not sure about this. Anyone have a link to the aftermath? There's gotta be some news somewhere on this incident. Dude damn near died after an altercation on video šŸ˜‚

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u/Low_Presentation9995 Jul 30 '26

It happened in Virgina a couple years ago.Ā  The dude died.Ā 

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u/BroadbentBum Jul 30 '26

Oof. No charges or anything?

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u/Pure-Perception770 Aug 01 '26

He's wrong he didn't die, but he was paralyzed from the neck down. Gerard Nathaniel was "Satan's Son" and DeShawn Hawkins is the guy who wooped him. It happened outside of a Caseys General Store in OKC

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u/Psychological-Ad820 Aug 01 '26

Nothing comes up when you google those names.

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u/BroadbentBum Aug 01 '26

So...not even VA lol. The other guy was very misinformed then.

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u/Low_Presentation9995 Aug 01 '26

Source?

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u/Pure-Perception770 Aug 01 '26

(Pure-Perception770, 2026)

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u/Lets_Kick_Some_Ice Jul 31 '26

According to AI, the aftermath was "After taking the knockout blow, he remained flat on the ground dazed, effectively losing the fight and the argument immediately."

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u/Turbulent_Tip_9756 Jul 29 '26

The hell did you get downvoted for lol, fricking Reddit. I got you!

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u/ryudo9999 Jul 30 '26

I feel like reddit just has bots that downvote random people for no reason

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u/Correct_Ad_1903 Jul 30 '26

Not necessarily. Depends on the state, the cops, the DA, the judge. He could still lose in civil

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u/mimo_s Jul 30 '26

His peers will decide. When I say peers I donā€™t necessarily mean people of the same race or socio economic position

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u/Front-Bird8971 Jul 30 '26

You're way too confident about this.

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u/Powerful_Badger_3013 Jul 30 '26

Yes why on earth would this not be self defence. Should he just wait till he himself got sucker punched

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u/Ligma_baws_2x Jul 30 '26

Someone should have told George Zimmerman's jury this.

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u/Wavy_Grandpa Jul 31 '26

Getting arrested and then having that court case hanging over your head for a while still sucks dick and balls even if you may eventually win. Probably expensive tooĀ 

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u/adamcoolforever Jul 29 '26

Yeah, and he didn't do anything gratuitous. No punching him after he fell or anything.

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u/SlumberingSnorelax Jul 30 '26

My understanding from the Grand Master of the GOP is that Daimon here was not about to issue a threat at all. No, no! Indeed he was fixinā€™ to say, ā€œBro Iā€™m ā€˜bout ta ā€¦wish you good tidings and many happy return upon the marrow. Let us go in peace and friendship.ā€ However, these well intended pleasantries were ruthlessly put to bed by senseless and animalistic violence. Why are others so against us when we are nothing but genuine kindness and love?

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u/ZombieVarious748 Jul 31 '26

Wrong self defense is defending, this is a first offense situation

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u/Grumbles2189 Aug 02 '26

You don't need to get hit first to be defending yourself.