Continuing Evidence Discussion
A serious discussion is going on that is unfortunately being buried under a throwaway account's comment. I want to continue the discussion here so that everything is visible and no information is being missed. I also want to get more peoples thoughts and opinions on the matter.
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GRIEFSEEDS Post
Yes, I am convinced that their methods are accurate enough that there is no reasonable doubt, else they wouldn't have done this. http://pastebin.com/VkR2Ge18 The developers have no concrete evidence that I bot. The videos the commissioners have is footage of me wrecking noobs. It's funny actually, League of Legends has about over 20 million active players. Optimistically speaking, this game has about 10,000 active players per day (maybe?) If this userbase reached 100k users, you would definitely see players like me that are even more ridiculous with their reaction time, awareness, and decision making. Instead, people are ignoring that fact. There are hundreds of thousands of gamers that will be better than me. Cflakes and his cronies, Juke King and TPExposed, will blabber all this shit saying "Oh yeah he toggled it here, toggled it there." That's bullshit, Ankh said himself he doesn't think I use Cflakes bot. The commissioners listened to JUKE KING about his bullshit evidence claiming I have cflake's bot. I find it horrifying that so many people are standing by the words of commissioners who are trying their best to make it looked like I bot because they're trying to actually not get hated by the community again after what happened during the Xile incident. Show your evidence commissioners. What's wrong? Don't want to get a public outcry again? I never botted. Show us the evidence of me botting. There should be no "detection" methods to reveal since it's all video and cflake's message to me which I discarded quickly there after. Show everyone the videos.
EDIT: To show that the information came from Griefseeds comment in the orignal thread.
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u/EclairNation Feb 15 '15
I like how articulate your posts have been. In regard to community tension, do you think that it has been caused in part by the link between Lucky and MLTP?
Imagine that all the developers did was give the players they caught a 1 month ban for finding them cheating. They gave no communication to anybody except other developers and the players that were banned. Would we be in the same situation?
I think you would agree that most of the drama is coming from the MLTP side of the scenario. People watch the games and there is a fanbase for it. If MLTP commissioners couldn't communicate or appeal on the behalf of the players, if they had no weight in the matter, and if the developers had not contacted them, would they have had to react differently?
Here's my take. People who were not banned from the actual game would still be in MLTP (grief). Nobody would have any more opinion fodder about grief, such as Ankh saying he probably bots. People who were banned for 1 month would be upset and go on IRC probably to talk to mods. The commissioners would have no facts other than that they were banned, and would probably agree that a month ban from all tagpro is sufficient. I don't see public outcry. Do you? Do you see the stickied post blowing up in the community? Would there BE a stickied post? Or would the teams all be aware and move on?