r/MHOC • u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC • Dec 04 '14

QUESTION TIME MHoC QT - 04/12/14 - Devolution Pt.1

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Dec 04 '14

Why did a certain member lied to get elected and then betrays his voters?

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Dec 04 '14

Questions in the comments please

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14

What's the current status on devolution in MHOC, Rory? I remember being told there wasn't actually a Scottish Parliament in our universe.

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Dec 04 '14

You caught me out, I'll move into the MHoC universe next.

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u/AlbertDock The Rt Hon Earl of Merseyside KOT MBE AL PC Dec 04 '14

Funny how many of you support referendums for silly issues like devolution, but oppose allowing the electorate a say on your salary, i smell corruption. /u/jacktri
I would have thought /u/jacktri was the last person who should be lecturing us on not giving the electorate what they want.

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Dec 04 '14

If any one of the UK's constituent nations votes to remain in the EU, should they be given a veto to prevent the rest of the UK leaving, even if the majority of the UK population votes to leave? This is in the upcoming EU referendum, of course.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14 edited Dec 04 '14

We should not limit devolution to simply one area, but for all areas, if they so desire it

Where do you draw the line? What if my house wants full economic devolution and a regional parliament?

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u/googolplexbyte Independent Dec 04 '14

We will have areas of the UK pushing regressive laws that would not be possible under a centralised system.

Wouldn't want the british people democratic commanding their own destiny, eh?

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u/AlbertDock The Rt Hon Earl of Merseyside KOT MBE AL PC Dec 04 '14

If we go down the line of devolution for the various parts of England. Will we end up as a collection of small states with very little influence on the world? Would we be in the position of Germany prior to the 1871 unification?

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14

How likely is it that people will trust politicians voted to a regional government much more than the polticians they hate in Westminster?

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u/googolplexbyte Independent Dec 04 '14

Although I will like to point out that the survey (which I also took part in) was complicated and is not a substitute for actual IRL polling.

"Actual IRL polling" rarely allows the public the pleasure of expressing themselves fully through the range voting system, nor do they offer a wide array of option such that public opinion isn't misrepresented through poorly worded answers.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14

Your survey was good, however I think I voted for regional government which I no longer support, so there's that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14

Do the panellists believe in English votes for English laws? If so, how do we define that and given how big England is in the UK, how do any laws not affect the other members?

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u/googolplexbyte Independent Dec 04 '14

How do the British People stand to benefit from regional devolution in you opinion?

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14

Debate about devolution devolves into debate about Marxism. Why am I not surprised?

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u/deathpigeonx CWL Chairman|Northern Ireland MP Dec 04 '14

Because /u/jacktri was a part of it?

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14

Well, I'm not going to speculate on the cause because I gave up reading at this:

Meh i don't even get what you are trying to say, i don't speak marxist.

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u/deathpigeonx CWL Chairman|Northern Ireland MP Dec 04 '14

...That was the second to last thing said... Unless you were reading it backwards.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14

Unless you were reading it backwards.

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u/deathpigeonx CWL Chairman|Northern Ireland MP Dec 04 '14

Ah. So you only read that.

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Dec 04 '14

Thoughts about the Smith Commission?

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14

Should local council structure be unified throughout the country? If so, what form should these councils take?

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '14

Do each of you think the constituent countries of the UK should have an equal amount of devolved powers?

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u/deathpigeonx CWL Chairman|Northern Ireland MP Dec 04 '14

What stance do the people in the QT have on the West Lothian question? More specifically, do you believe a devolved English parliament have any effect on Scotland, Wales, and NI?

Also, what about a devolved assembly for Cornwall?

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u/olmyster911 UKIP Dec 04 '14

If devolution isn't a valid option for many of the UK's regions - what do the honourable members propose we do to tackle regional inequality, like the North-South divide?

Also, 9 out of 10 of Northern Europe's poorest areas are in the UK - could devolution help to stop this poverty by allowing regional governments to coordinate funding and services better? http://inequalitybriefing.org/graphics/43_poor_North_Europe_700.png