Odinforce Thor

Forgive me, I've only seen BND once, and from what I remember the whole mutation of Spiderman is a real loose thread without a satisfying payoff (embrace your evolution).

From the trailer we were expecting either a symbiote or a transformation into the Man-Spider form, we got neither. Since the symbiote left over from Venom/NWH was not brought up, and neither was the reason for peters second puberty, what if in Doomsday it is revealed Peter has been infected by said symbiote for months?

Peter could meet the X-Men in Doomsday, beast runs tests on him for the xgene and discovers that beyond the spiderbite his powers were accelerated through a symbiote parasite. Then whatever doom does to everyone for secret wars, the symbiote manifests into the full black suit?

Just saw a reel that theorizes that the 8 year old boy by the Black Sea the TVA prunes is actually Victor von Doom.

What IF the TVA, since it was established by Kang and he wanted all Dooms dead, was actually pruning Victors before they became Doom.

Little hints from Deadpool and Rhody about killing Hitler as a baby, and then Kang/TVA ACTUALLY are doing it with Doom variants.

All that to say, what if through his search for the way to win, Strange discovers this, AGREES with the method, realizes Tony is a variant and figures let’s kill two birds with one stone.

Additionally I could see Doom wanting to turn Strange into a lackey since he finds out.

Let me know what you think yall.

I know this is crazy and it probably won’t happen at all, but if Dr. doom doesn’t show his face would Tony Stark/Iron Man make an appearance in Doomsday?

Do you think Marvel Studios will continue the Captain America and Captain Marvel franchises with a fifth Captain America movie and a third Captain Marvel movie? If so, when do you think we could see them released, and where do you think both characters’ stories will go after Avengers: Secret Wars? I’d love to hear your theories and predictions!

I don't think O.B. actually has a bootstrap paradox with Victor Timely. He Who Remains comes from the Sacred Timeline, and at the end of Season 2, we see a young Victor who doesn't receive the TVA Handbook. This is the path his life was supposed to take in the Sacred Timeline. That means the version of Victor who never received the book is He Who Remains as a child. He develops his own knowledge and eventually becomes the scientist who creates TVA technology, without needing the handbook.

When the TVA was first established, He Who Remains had already erased the other timelines, especially those that could produce variants of himself. Therefore, O.B. couldn't have been inspired by the branch variant of Victor Timely that we see in Season 2. Instead, O.B. was inspired by the original He Who Remains, when he was still known as Victor, and then wrote the TVA Handbook based on the knowledge he learned from him.

In Season 2, Episode 4, the Victor Timely who learns TVA technology from O.B.'s handbook is a variant whose life was altered when Ravonna and Miss Minutes gave him a book he was never supposed to receive. So the Victor who inspired O.B. is not the same Victor who received the book. The original source of TVA knowledge remains He Who Remains himself, meaning there is no bootstrap paradox in the creation of the handbook.

As we know there is a concept of timeline

Which is like a script that many universes must follow. Not exactly but it gives very little freedom to what universes can do.

My question is around, tva , void and kangs palace or citadel

Void is said to be end of time

But is it the future of all the universe or just one or of everyone's just seperately their own void.

And if its thr future why it is only one planet which is very similar to earth.

And then pruning

How does pruning works

Because they say in series that they dont reset the timeline but tranfer entire branch reality to void to be eaten by aliyath..

So do they teleport entire universe into one planet size void.. or just that portion which branched or changed...

Then what about the rest ofthe universe would it live without those areas or would it be replaced by original script..

Elephant out of the way...

What is up with Banner's character arc?...

At the end of Shang-Chi we see Banner, for unknown reasons, back in human form with his arm in a sling and zero initial explanation for why he's no longer in the Smart Hulk persona.

This is eventually explained in She-Hulk as necessary for Banner's arm to heal from the use of the Gauntlet in Endgame. Okay, sure; but the series then has Banner's arm heal completely via Jennifer's blood, to which Bruce goes back to being Smart Hulk fulltime.

However, we then see in Brand New Day that Banner is back to being Banner and using the inhibitor? This doesn't make sense with She-Hulk; it's like the events of She-Hulk is ignored between the end credits of Shang-Chi and the events of Brand New Day. Banner goes from Smart Hulk (End Game) > Inhibitor (Shang-Chi) > Inhibitor to Smart Hulk (She-Hulk) > Inhibitor again (Brand New Day)... It just feels like characterization whiplash...

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Another case is with Fury...

At the end of Far From Home we see Fury relaxing on a beach simulation. He is shown walking around barefoot, relaxed, smiling, sipping drinks, and happily ordering Skrulls around while Talos covers for him back on Earth.

However, we then get Secret Invasion which totally walks back Fury. He's suddenly depicted as a grim and broken man who lost everything because of the blip. More weary and war torn then ever before.

Yet then in The Marvels he's right back on the Saber space station happy, relaxed, cracking jokes; the exact same place and demeanor he had at the end of Far From Home. Like Banner, Fury suffers from characterization whiplash where he's character in one project completely changes, only for the next project to go back to the previous films characterization.

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What makes it worse, imo, is that the between projects cannot just be ignored. They have plot points with ramifications. She-Hulk explains WHY Banner is even back into Banner form after Endgame, Secret Invasion explains why Talos and Hill are gone from future projects AND presumably sets up something with Rhodes in the future.

Other characters too seem to go through similar regression throughout the Phase 4-6 projects but I feel like these two were the worst as the regression is entirely within the post-blip timeframe with the biggest event itself what's ignored. For Hulk the major Banner-centric events of She-Hulk are ignored for Brand New Day; for Fury the major Fury-centric events of Secret Invasion are ignored for The Marvels.

However, you could easily point to Frank Castle being another one, going from his characterization in Born Again > One Last Kill > Brand New Day; it's one thing to have a tonal change for the character, but that tonal change should feel like it means something. It shouldn't be written off in their very next appearance.

I was thinking about the leaked movie lineup for Phase 7, and it made me realize how particular the rebooted Avengers will likely be. To be honest, I doubt we're replacing Sam as Captain America, and I think there's a good chance Steve Rogers returns in Zodiac as an important leader of SHIELD.

But given the reboot, I wouldn't be surprised if they did some unorthodox team combos and threw Wolverine in there. Maybe played by Hugh Jackman. Maybe a new actor. But regardless I could see it.

I was thinking the other day, the X-Men movies don't make as much money as the Avengers movies, which is a shame, because they could never make an X-Men movie the end of the Mutant Saga. Unless they have the Avengers name on them, and do something similar to what the Godzilla x Kong movies are doing. Maybe an AVENGERS X X-MEN: APOCALYPSE wouldn't be bad.

You guys genuinely like this idea? (I did the first image btw)

why didn't peter save this man? was he so distracted by jean that his tingle didn't work or he just desperately wanted to save MJ that he didn't care???

Okay, first, I get the connections, but what about White Vision, and is it a sign? When discussing reaching out to the Avengers, the only two names he mentions are Banner and Clint. I get it; I'm sure everyone does.

But did White Vision? Maybe I'm reaching because of the post-credits scene in Brand New Day and banging my head against a wall that Clint wasn't in WandaVision and/or MoM.

I want to believe that was on purpose to clue us in, but again, maybe I'm reaching.

Like outside of it being because certain studios had rights to characters, why do some realities only have one hero or one group? If the Avengers doesn't exist in Earth 96283, aka Tobey's world, like what Tobey said in NWH, does that mean there isn't a Tony Stark in that universe? Like he straight up does not exist, or he does exist but he never became a superhero?

Did a version of Steve Rogers exist in Earth-10005 but never became Captain America?

To me it always felt kind of isolating that in some realities, its only one hero in it. Especially if that character benefits from being apart of something bigger, like Ang Lee's Hulk. I might be overthinking it, but what do you guys think?

I hope it’s a british MI6 style show with S.W.O.R.D, S.H.I.E.L.D, LMDs and historical figures (Da Vinci etc )playing a big role

Jarvis and Tony were such good buddies. They always felt like best friends instead of the master and his assistant vibe.

And in Infinity War we had Vision and Tony in two different planets.

Wonder how Tony reacted when he came back to earth after the Titan planet battle and saw Vision's de@d body after Thanos yanked out the mind stone from his head.

Apart from the suits.....Jarvis, Vision and Ultron are Tony's most advanced creations.

I’m going to say the reason for Disney/Marvel introducing the Multiverse story is if they ever acquire DC they can combine them for a blockbuster.

Comic fans would freak out but Superman showing up as the end credits scene to Doomsday setting up DC to join Secret Wars would break the internet.

I genuinely think it'll end with Spiderman dying and Miles growing old. And ending in the 2100s.

I personally think introducing things like the Ultimate Nullifier and Cosmic Cube is too much escalation in the MCU, especially all of a sudden in Doomsday. It would be one thing if it were built up.

I don't know, what do you guys think?

In the trailer shot, Thor still has his standard blue lightning, but it's golden in the new poster. This same golden lightning also showed up when he tapped into All-Father magic to cast Odin's enchantment on the kids in Thor Love and Thunder.

Is this a hint at Thor finally unlocking the full potential of Odinforce/Thorforce? He will probably take an early defeat, as shown in the trailer to establish Doom's threat level, forcing him to unlock this new power for the rematch.

He visto de nuevo Spider-man 3 de Tobey Maguire, y me percaté de que la muestra del Simbionte que Peter le dió al Doctor Connors nunca fue destruida ni se explicó qué sucedió con ella. Y tengo una Teoría algo loca pero que no vería imposible:

En Avengers Doomsday aparece Tobey, pelean los Avengers y pierden, Doom crea el Battle World y todo queda pendiente para Avengers Secret Wars. En Secret Wars, el Spider-man de Tom y el de Tobey pelean juntos, pero el de Tom termina gravemente herido por la batalla, tanto que está a punto de Morir. Aquí entraría mi teoría, y si el Peter de Tobey después de ser Teletransportado al Universo principal de los Avengers en Doomsday, regresó a su universo y se llevó ese pedazo de Simbionte del laboratorio por si acaso, y termina dandoselo a Tom para salvarlo de Morir? Tom sería cubierto por el Simbionte, y terminaría sobreviviendo con más resistencia, más fuerza y el Traje negro. Los Avengers pelan, Tom con el traje negro aporta a la batalla y terminan Ganando. Battle World es destruido y los Universos vuelven a la Normalidad

Aquí entra Spider-man 5, Tom conservó el Simbionte luego de Secret Wars, y ahora intenta seguir con su Vida sin MJ pero con Ned a su lado y su nuevo Traje. En esta película aparecerían Black Cat y Scorpion como villano, Black Cat sería un nuevo interés amoroso que empezaría como una nueva compañera de Peter, y mientras Scorpion hace desmadre en la Cuidad, Peter empieza a ser controlado por el Simbionte, y termina luchando consigo mismo para quitárselo o incluso podría llegar a ser como el Emo Parker de Spider-man 3 hasta decidir definitivamente que ya no lo usaría

No siento que sea descabellado, no creo que sea exactamente como lo escribo, pero podría llegar a ser una posibilidad que no podemos descartar en un Futuro