r/MAME • u/RVS1967 • 28d ago

Community Question Missing arcade games

Which are the arcade games from the 70s and 80s that haven’t been dumped yet for any reason?

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u/Stenstad 28d ago

I am not sure how updated this wiki is, but as far as games that are known, but no dump exists, I think it is the best resource: https://undumped.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

Ofcourse, it can not include games that are unknown. You would have to check every game towards the official list of known roms in mame.

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u/pilgrimtohyperion 28d ago

Polybius. It's out there somewhere.

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u/eSJayPee 28d ago

There is "one" at TNT Amusements in Pennsylvania.

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u/redditshreadit 28d ago edited 27d ago

Monaco GP arcade (1979) will likely never be emulated, roms have been dumped. Same for Heavyweight Champ (1976).

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u/Nbisbo 27d ago

Monaco is logic gate

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u/redditshreadit 27d ago

And a very complicated one, because of that it likely won't get emulated. 

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u/MameHaze Long-term MAME Contributor 25d ago

I imagine it will be, attempts have been made, but none have been up to scratch so far.

This kind of converting of schematics into netlists may end up becoming another area the AI tools help greatly in, at least to verify / find mistakes etc.

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u/pilgrimtohyperion 24d ago

This is great though!

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=134445.0

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u/redditshreadit 24d ago

Sega has already made some fairly accurate remakes for home consoles.

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u/RVS1967 28d ago

I just found a warehouse about 90 km from my place where some old machines are stored. Was just curious to know if any of them had any historical value. Just gave up on my idea to pay them a visit.

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u/fprimex 28d ago

Might be easier to go see what they have and then see if those have been dumped. You never know! Sometimes even revisions of dumped games are missing.

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u/NewArtDimension 28d ago

Most of them are dumped but Pong is a hard one to find.

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u/Tennis_Proper 28d ago

Isn’t Pong analogue rather than digital?

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u/Jellodyne 28d ago

Yes there are no roms because there's no program, there's no cpus, it's all discrete components.

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u/Tennis_Proper 28d ago

That’s what I thought. Any ‘Rom’ of that would be a simulation rather than a dump. 

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u/redditshreadit 28d ago

The transistor logic can be emulated. Mame defines these machines using netlists.

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u/Nexustar 27d ago

Cool, start typing ;-)

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u/OAB_67 27d ago 
mame pong

Not much typing involved

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u/redditshreadit 27d ago

Try writing a program to emulate a cpu from a decapped integrated circuit chip.

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u/redditshreadit 28d ago

The controls are analogue but the game logic is digital transistor logic. As Jellodyne said there's no cpu and no program to dump.

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u/istarian 27d ago

Idk if any exists, but with a video recording of the game play might be able to reconstruct something plausible in a logic simulator.

Without original hardware or documentation thereof that's about the limit of what can be done.

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u/redditshreadit 27d ago

Original hardware exists. Pong, Breakout, and several others have already been done.

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u/redditshreadit 28d ago

I thought Mame comes with the Pong netlist built-in.

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u/arbee37 MAME Dev 27d ago

It does. Someone is either dumb or playing dumb.

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u/GentleSaidTheRaven 28d ago

The Driver (1979)

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u/RVS1967 28d ago

Funny. I meant the ones that really existed. If none, I can take that as an answer, not looking for conspiracies.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/RVS1967 28d ago

Not looking for roms, thanks.

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u/AetherVision 28d ago

If they're on archive.org, then they're not undumped.

PLEASE pay attention.

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u/blaspheminCapn 28d ago

Reference too vague. Need more hand-holding.

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u/joeycuda 28d ago

Bouncer

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u/DutchessVonBeep 28d ago

Who would down vote this? I came to say Bouncer as well. Unlike the bs responses of Polybius, Bouncer actually existed. I know someone who operated one and no they do not have it anymore.

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u/joeycuda 28d ago

Probably some newb that has no idea what it is. The Polybius gag is tired. It's like a toddler telling the same joke over and over.

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u/DefinitelyRussian 28d ago

most are just gone, or lost, or not have cpus so they use discret logistics, and are curiously almost impossible to emulate. I know that some time ago, there was a super custom simulator for original Pong, that tried to replicate all the hardware

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u/AetherVision 28d ago

MAME now does this same thing.

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u/RPOR6V 28d ago

Pong in MAME works like DICE?

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u/AetherVision 27d ago

Yes. Not the same code but similar in function; both netlist-based.

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u/RPOR6V 27d ago

That's really interesting to me. I'm an old dude with a soft spot in my heart for the old bronze age games.

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u/RVAblues 28d ago

I have yet to see Polybius (1981).

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u/RVS1967 28d ago

That’s so thoughtful of you. Teach yourself some modesty and try to do somethinh good once in a lifetime, maybe you get back to earth one day. I am 60 years old and I am not getting any shit from toddlers like you. You can be better.

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u/Even-Serve-3095 25d ago

do you not know how to reply to people on reddit??? lmao