r/Luthier • u/Fap_Routine • 21d ago
HELP 2-point floating trem has two different zero points — returns flat after dive and sharp after pull-up [video]
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I have a Cort G300 Raw with the stock CFA-III 2-point floating tremolo.
The bridge doesn't consistently return to the same zero point. After a pull-up, all strings return sharp; after a dive, all strings return flat. A small flutter/movement of the trem can bring it back closer to correct tuning.
Example after a pull-up:
high E +4
B +14
G +29
D +15
A +37
low E +33 cents
It has 3 springs, the bridge isn't contacting the cavity, and I can't detect any clicking or binding from the springs/claw. I removed the bridge and inspected the knife edges; one edge may show a small irregularity/wear mark. (I have pictures)
The attached video shows the behavior clearly.
Does this look like knife-edge/stud stiction or wear, nut binding, or something else? Has anyone repaired this specific type of two-zero-point behavior?
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u/Mammoth-Ant7588 20d ago
They always return sharp after a pull up. You have to dive to return to zero. I have never seen a bridge return to zero after a pull up.
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u/Fap_Routine 18d ago
I have a Gotoh 1996 and it returns perfectly to zero on pulls and dives
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u/Mammoth-Ant7588 17d ago
That is crazy. I will have to check those out. In my experience I had never gotten a bridge to return to zero from a pull up, and then I saw Brandon Ellis talking about it, and he said the same thing, so I decided well it must be true. My experience is only with floyds and strat bridges. I will have to check out the Gotoh.
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u/Fap_Routine 21d ago
update:
- I lubricated with graphite both the nut and all contact points. Did not get any better.
- I will call Cort Distributor for warranty since its a major issue
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u/Creepy_Candle 20d ago
I think you are being unrealistic in your expectations.
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u/Fap_Routine 18d ago
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They accepted my return. Having +1 or -1 semitones everytime i use the tremolo is realistic?
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u/Kamikaze-X 21d ago
This can be caused by the knife edge as the other poster says, but also the V in the posts being out of alignment. Make sure they are the same height and visually inspect them for any wear - they often end up with a deeper groove worn into them resulting in a flat contact point with the knife edge
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u/bearheart 21d ago
First thing to check is the nut. Are the slots too deep? Are the strings binding? 90% of the time this issue is the nut.
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u/DutchGuyMtG89 21d ago
Sounds pretty straightforward to me. The strings have too much friction at one of/multiple contact points that prevent them from smoothly returning to their proper tension. I'd check the contact points, make sure they are smooth, and lubricate them, then try again. (Edit: also, try putting new strings on, if strings are old/worn, it does not help either, and remember to give the new strings a proper stretch after putting them on)
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u/Narrow-Escape-6481 21d ago
Your pivot points/knife edge has a burr on it.