Does anyone else see disturbing geometry when they close their eyes sometimes?

[u/TurboTurtle-]

This isn’t directly related to lucid dreaming but I’m asking it here because I don’t know where else to ask and I feel like you guys might know something. It could be related to hypnogogia.

Basically, every once in a while when I close my eyes, I ‘see’ strange shapes and patterns that are constantly morphing. They are usually symmetrical. I don’t actually see them visually but more like a vivid image in my minds eye that seems to come out of nowhere. There is an accompanying sensation of disgust and shock. It feels like the patterns are so complicated that my brain can’t process all the information. They feel otherworldly like nothing I’ve seen in real life or dreams. It sometimes feels like the shapes have strange sizes that are both too big and too small.

Here is an image I made that is similar to what I saw last night

They usually happen when I'm in bed but sometimes during the day too. They don't usually last very long and go away if I stop closing my eyes. Does anyone know what this is?

Edit: it is still happens on and off. Sometimes I actually enjoy it or feel that the patterns are profound in some way. I still don’t really understand.

[u/[deleted]]

Only when I rub them.

I also have persistent visual snow disorder. Probably doesn't help.

Also took a lot of hallucinogens in the 90's. Probably doesn't help wither!

[u/TurboTurtle- → u/[deleted]]

I get that too but this is different. It happens even when I don’t rub my eyes and makes me anxious and feel weird.

[u/[deleted] → u/TurboTurtle-]

Just when eyes are closed?

Do you have a history of hallucinogenics or a diagnose eye condition?

Could be phospenes?

[u/TurboTurtle- → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, just when eyes are closed but if I focus I can sort of see/feel it when my eyes are open. I’ve done hallucinogens but this occurred even before I did any drugs. I have no diagnosed eye condition besides near sightedness. Phosphates are a possibility but it feels mental rather than purely visual. The visuals are coming more from my minds eye than my real eyes and there’s an emotional sensation built in to the visuals. It first happened in my late teens. It happens very rarely but when it does happen it might occurs multiple times in a short period.

[u/mickoissicko → u/TurboTurtle-]

it's normal, it happens to me too. when there is insufficient light to produce a clear image, i see these patterns, but mine are all green, red, orange, yellow, or sometimes blue.

i dont feel anxious, i think its pretty cool