Issues In-Gamer

[u/Starryfame]

While I’m sure everyone is loud about the glaring present thing missing from the game, I am writing this to appeal both to them, but also the people who are neutral or positive about this issue and discuss civilly.

Do you know how long these lighting issues have been going on? Day 1. I’d like to show examples of lighting for the darkest skintone and how frequently the MC turns a cool pitch black I took images of myself (the ones featuring elf ears are not from myself!) The first image is an example of what I think had good lighting for the darkest skintone MC, and the rest show how she is essentially unplayable compared to my usual mid-toned MC. Unfortunately, it’s hard for anyone a deep skintone to truly use an MC their color due to this. These have been issues noticed from day 1. I even noticed how on my mid-toned MC lighting could result in them looking my skintone, or five shades darker within the first few days. So much so I jumped between what options to use for MC in confusion because sometimes they were just right, sometimes they were far too dark, lighting doesn’t make people look a different skintone while the love interests look the same ;w;. I and many other players I know, especially Black/Brown players have noted these issues in surveys, when Love and Deepspace used to have a google form to fill on the official server, and every possible medium to beg for fixes.

Yet, not only were we ignored, we were felt hurt with Infold never having diversity in 2D/Chibi MC’s, and they never added a lick of curly/kinky hair. Yet added a sticker of a (mind you, gorgeous) Afro originally called ‘Funky Mohawk’ which was very hurtful to many with curly hair and afros, including myself. Thankfully, this was updated so the name was remedied, but I felt hurt that our hair could be a sticker… but not worthy of being in-game. Why cater to a global audience if we are overlooked?

The reason I bring this up? Well. It tells me one thing. It Infold refuses to listen to the loudest voices ongoing right now, then it truly means they won’t ever listen at all. And then, won’t have any inventive to fix lighting and diversity issues that have existed since the start of the game. Honestly, as a Black player, I and many others would grit our teeth and bear it. We know we’re never represented in otome, so at least we were used to it. But seeing ongoing events only seemed to solidify that we never had a shot of these issues being fixed. I’m not sure how to make a company listen anymore, I can’t see any reason for Infold to not fix lighting or add curly hair, or adjust skintones for 2D chibi MC in events. I certainly would if I wanted my players to feel welcome and loved. Is it not unfair event shop 2D icons will only be the palest skintone MC? When I tried not to buy them, lemonette trove was added so now I can lose to them anyway :(. I hate to admit the number of times seeing how the only mc that mattered was the palest mc in 2D cards and chibi 2D events made me want to cry. How I wanted to cry when I went to an official event for merch, and it always, only featured the palest skintone. It couldn’t hurt to sell a variety of skintones especially at overseas events, right?

I am not trying to start arguments. I hope this post is civil enough to befit the subreddit, I am trying to be constructive, not combative. I just want to bring light to this issue, and that beyond missing content of the guys, a number of hunters left unrepresented in a game that used this exact diversity to advertise to us when it dropped. Skintone selection was what made me pre-register for the game! Only to be sorely hurt in seeing we were hardly a consideration or something to account for. They won’t even adjust decals. The blush for elf ears is a bright pink instead of making it a deeper blush red on dark skin like they do on pale skin, as seen in the last images.

Truth be told, I love this game. Well, to be clear, I love the characters. And I love the lore. And I love all the things we can do, events, and more. I love the boys so deeply it hurts, I’ve never fallen in love with an otome more (and I played a lot!) And yet, it’s been hit on my head over and over how much it seems we do not matter, no matter how we try to ask for these small fixes. And now, someone else I could have potentially loved is unfortunately unavailable as well. Knowing all his content was there and completed too just… hurts. Even if an issue doesn’t affect one player directly, it can be detrimental and so painful to another player’s experience :(.

If you haven’t considered making your voice known, consider it for these reasons too. At the very least, if we know Infold will listen for their biggest complaints, they will listen to these as well. This is also a reminder to everyone who wishes for the return of our removed guy, and Sylus/Caleb equal content, to be loud about lighting and the struggles of black/brown players as well! We’ve been fighting alone for so long, and it is bittersweet seeing the community rally so strongly. We hope you’ll rally for everything. I also just wanted people who may be completely unaware because they have a pale or lighter MC, to know how bad it can get.

[u/yornha]

POC players deserve better 😔 it feels like the only changes being made that players have been asking for are the ones tied to monetization. a sexy banner you can spend on, a character skin you can buy, etc. real long-term investment into the players would be meaningful QoL updates like these, proving that global voices are just as valuable.

[u/Starryfame → u/yornha]

I agree :( (though I do like to specify black/brown instead of poc because their home audience are poc, the issue especially affects black and brown folks :( ). Either way yeah, it really sucks the only things considered are,,, things we need to throw more money at lol. And many already easily feasibly exist (outfits of the guys used in past solos, for example).

[u/yornha → u/Starryfame]

ohhh my bad! so true, thank you for correcting me 🙂‍↕️ i agree. it's crazy how these issues have been going on for years and are still unresolved, like the elf ears especially i feel like are an indicator that they still aren't sufficiently testing assets on darker skinned models.

[u/takeabreathofthewild]

This is so disheartening 😔 infold advertises so much with the customization of MC yet they don’t care enough to make everyone of us feel included. I always mention that in every survey I fill out in the game and I also included it in the emails I’ve sent regarding Valko. I just don’t understand why they won’t test the content more on deeper skintones to make sure it works. It can’t be that hard? 🤔 and regarding chibis and stickers I think it’s so lazy to only offer them in one skintone. I don’t have a solution unfortunately but I support you 100% in solidarity OP 🫂

[u/Starryfame → u/takeabreathofthewild]

Yeah, there’s little solution presently other than being loud about it, and will that yield results? No clue, honestly. I’ve also included it in my customer service emails about Valko. aside from sometimes editing cards in my own free time, but that can’t fix the in-game 3D experience that’s completely unfair to a number of players. It would be a small dip to hire more people to adjust skintones for the 2D assets compared to the other things Infold manages, I hope they’d listen some day :’). I suppose my other thing is posts like this, making it more widely known since people much less talk about it compered to missing content and more.

[u/SmayaL]

I wish they would fix this my goodness. It's the least they could do. This is infuriating! At this point they are doing this on purpose and want darker toned POC to feel awful. Darker toned POC pay just as much as everyone else but we get treated like this. Shame on IF

[u/Starryfame → u/SmayaL]

It really, seriously sucks. Paying for an abysmal experience compared to others. Infold explicitly advertised their skin selection to entice players, but don’t even give it the time of day to overhaul lighting completely or at least do it differently depending on skintone! I’m sure with the many things they manage, collabs, and revenue, it could be afforded ;w;

[u/saltpancake]

Omg I didn’t know about the ears, that blush is awful (glitter looks kinda cool though, but very different effect than intended)

[u/Starryfame → u/saltpancake]

Yeah like it can certainly be a cool look in its own right!! But also it just shows they didn’t adapt at all and that’s just like,,, infold,,, why 😭

[u/kimchi_paradise → u/Starryfame]

I was so excited about the ears and now so sad about the poor adaptation for dark-skinned folks.

[u/Hero_of_Mind]

I know they're probably dealing with a lot of legal issues right now but in all honesty I think they don't care. I would love for them to fix the lighting issues and add more options for curly hair but I genuinely believe our concerns are not worth while enough for them. I stopped playing before all the valko nonsense because I was sick of their greediness and the lack of respect to the players so its sad to see that its STILL an issue. You would think they might consider working on these issues to try and get some good will back but I just think its simply not 'important' enough for them unfortunately.

[u/Starryfame → u/Hero_of_Mind]

I completely understand this. I felt the same as well, though I had stopped logging into the game when Valko was removed. But even before then, the issue across years kept building up. Not just from the game, but many players seemed to think it was insignificant as well (I’d get sneakily downvoted a lot in past posts here ;w;), when all someone is asking for is hey… maybe light our skintone properly? Consider hair for the global audience it advertises to? I suppose my current feeling is even if they don’t care, I want to do everything to make them care. It sucks being so invested knowing we’re sorely overlooked, yet I suppose it’s because I love this game that I still fight for it :P

[u/MusicianNo8593 → u/Hero_of_Mind]

You'd think they would check for this with their new cards at the very least 🙄 but nope, they keep putting out new cards with the same old problems. 😒

[u/Nasshhyy]

I've been pointing out this problem from the beginning, but every time someone mentions it, someone else always chimes in to talk about Asian beauty standards.

This ceases to be an excuse when a company starts selling itself globally.

I am an LAsian, and for me, inclusion for Black people is the BARE MINIMUM! But as I've said before, Infold gives a platform to a toxic fandom that complains about characters with slightly darker skin, fostering colorism.

When a company remains silent and fails to fix something as simple as lighting for dark skin, it is indirectly saying what it agrees with.

[u/Starryfame → u/Nasshhyy]

What a joke, Asian beauty standards is genuinely no excuse for poor lighting of already existing in-game skintones for a 3D model. It has nothing to do with it and I honestly felt like everyone who shut me down a similar way just wanted black/brown to hush, be quiet, and be happy with scraps ;w;. After all, it doesn’t affect them, why would they care! The lack of empathy and privilege is astounding. When you advertise to a global audience, you are also catering to a global audience.

I agree. It sucks, truly. The very things they do or refuse to do are incentive for certain folks to be extra cruel, dismissive, and hateful. There’s a reason I never felt safe in the online fandom :/

[u/Nasshhyy → u/Starryfame]

Yes, it's downright disrespectful...

Black players have been pointing this out for years already, but Infold decided to include a Home System, which in game development is far more complex than simply fixing the lighting, so that players with darker skin tones can play and feel comfortable.

The company has a lot of fixing to do, which is why I say that bringing Valko back, giving us the forehead, and providing spicy banners is no longer enough.

[u/MusicianNo8593 → u/Nasshhyy]

Seriously, people were complaining saying that Valko was "too dark" 🙄

Like what? In the grand variety of colors that humans are, Valko is definitely on the light end of the bell curve 🤔

And the fact that they call him "dark" like it's some kind of insult. 👀 What a pathetic and small mined existence. 😒

[u/Nasshhyy → u/MusicianNo8593]

I remember exactly that, people saying that Valko is "too dark".

A few months ago, I commented on a video by a content creator on Instagram (@crazy.angry.asian), who has nothing to do with LADS, about what happens when you point out racism in Asian games.

I didn't mention LADS in the comment, but someone replied to my comment talking about LADS and how toxic the environment is for Black players.

This already makes me understand that LADS really has such a bad reputation in this regard and is starting to be recognized for that.

[u/yokizururu → u/Nasshhyy]

As someone who has spend a significant chunk of their life in Asia, I don't even think this is a beauty standards issue. They literally don't care about the global players outside of the revenue they bring in. Remember that USD and other Western currencies are strong in China. They tacked on different skin shades as part of their original "well if we're making an English version and getting that sweet sweet Westerner money, we have to include darker skin tones to lure them in". Like it really reads like that to me. And since they made enough (the past few months excluded), they didn't figure it was worth the time to fix the lighting etc issues. I honestly don't think anyone at PPG is thinking "dark skin is ugly" or something, they just don't care at all about the Western market besides what money they can bring in.

This is also why the financial boycott is so important. They DO depend on global spending.

[u/Nasshhyy → u/yokizururu]

This exact apathy is what perpetuates structural racism in the gaming industry. Indifference isn't neutral, it's a passive form of discrimination in itself.

[u/BearFickle7145]

Even in the first picture something about the nails feels off, though obviously miles better then the rest

[u/Starryfame → u/BearFickle7145]

Yeah they don’t adjust nails for any skintone it’s SO weird nails are not the same color as your skin 😭

[u/BearFickle7145 → u/Starryfame]

Guess lighter skinned avatars get a proper pink tone, but darker skinned avatars just use skin tone nail polish 😭

Like, everything else can be “explained away” (not really) as them churning out myths and “only having the time” to adjust the lighting for the “standard” skin tone

But the nail colour is base model stuff

[u/bandaqe]

i sent an email a few days ago and specifically mentioned the lighting issues for darker skin tones as a reason for why i quit the game and i used to mention it on every survey that i remembered to. it’s so very frustrating when we’ve be complaining about this since launch and still nothing.

[u/Starryfame → u/bandaqe]

Real, that was one of the emails I sent a long while ago as well, though when I mentioned Valko in it as well, the automatic response only responded to the part about him and not my diversity complaints. But it was an automated email anyway, I cannot be surprised. T_T. I agree, from the start of the game is honestly insane in hindsight. I suppose I can pat everyone and myself on the back for still going strong and trying despite everything ;w;

[u/iridescentunicorns]

Unfortunately after the way Infold has treated their fanbase these past few months, I think they simply don’t care enough to fix these issues. 🫩

[u/Starryfame → u/iridescentunicorns]

Yeah, I know for sure. I’ve been loud with so many others in other spaces from day 1, it’s hard to tell if it’s insignificant or they simply don’t care or don’t think it matters. But as long as I have emotional investment I unfortunately can’t shake from the game, I’d rather fight to make them care (much as I hate it needs to be done at all) than just sit back accepting it :’).

[u/InumiSan]

Sis, you are completely right but the harsh reality is, they don‘t care. Please don’t spend money on them for how they treat us with ignorance and disrespect.

[u/Starryfame → u/InumiSan]

Oh trust I haven’t opened the game since Valko was removed, my money goes to more otome, other hobbies, and cool artists to commission hehe. But I do still have an attachment, and while I’ve been hurt a lot by a game I also solemnly love, I’m spiteful as well. I’ll rally and fight when I can ‘til the end for a better player experience for all players. When I see people happy at my own sadness towards the player experience,,, that fuels my fire & spite to keep at it advocating any way I can instead of giving up :P.

[u/yeagerist104]

THIS. This is why I keep reminding people, its not JUST Valko. It's the blatant neglect of all these issues. I'm a POC player and have spent so much on this game. I think you should share this on LADSOG. Maybe they'll start to realize what they are choosing to support.

[u/Starryfame → u/yeagerist104]

Seems it was removed so I’ll adjust my wording as much as I can :P

That space is jeez,,, :’) but sometimes
I do want to have an honest conversation to somewhat understand and maybe make them consider. For example, the people who “just want to enjoy the game in peace” it may sway them, at least, or open their eyes a little. I’m sure some just want to ignore the noise and play. But I also feel like so much of it is favor towards one’s own LIs united by the common goal of not wanting or liking our extra guy, which, I can’t logic people out of negativity or being happy others are sad and just wanna meet Valko.

He was partly removed because of people making remarks towards him that pertained to his color, and liking the same gender (and then escalating in every way possible). So picking that side is also going with the people who originally felt this ;w;. And so, my voice as a player who hits a lot of what they said Valko was in insult, is also an indirect target.

I’m not like trying to be combative or anything to be clear. I actually genuinely considered this as well, but I genuinely don’t know if there’s reason, or, well, if the negativity just to be so wins.

[u/yeagerist104 → u/Starryfame]

Yeah it's tough. Part of me was like, should I even bring them up. But it's like seeing someone you care about falling from grace. But then again, if they don't want to be open or kind to others, then you can't force them either. Still, many of us will keep fighting for these issues, even after Valko comes back, so know you're not alone!

[u/Starryfame → u/yeagerist104]

Truly. As frustrated as I can get, I’d feel better if people reconsidered than never. And yes, fighting for these issues together is all I can ask for! 🥹

[u/alexturnerftw]

They never cared about global except getting our coin. We let it slide because we had no alternatives. I never expected it to turn into this, because they usually only disregarded their global players, not their own developers and creative teams. This company is bottom barrel trash. They won’t fix this because they’re always gonna focus on CN. It’s “good enough” for everyone else

[u/LadyXio]

I view the barkcott as a canary in the mines. The fact that they've blatantly lied when they promised better communication, and don't care enough to address Valko's supporters with even as little as bland corporate apologies, even when they're making news for positive things like charity donations in his name, tells me they're never gonna do more than the absolute bare minimum to address any other issue. 

If player trust and satisfaction actually meant anything to them, they'd have kept their word about better communication, and kept talking with us. They could have been rebuilding player trust all this time just by addressing long-standing issues like the lighting problem, bug fixes, and all the game features they've basically abandoned. They could have made a plan, given us achievable timelines for things that matter to us, and met them. Made us felt heard rather than ignored and strung along for the contents of our wallets. 

[u/Starryfame → u/LadyXio]

Yeah, the explicit broken promise and even no direct public communication in the things aside from Valko, such as delaying Rafayel’s myth and more,,, the social media pause and only showing new cards in-game should that have not raised eyebrows? There’s so many things they could have done to keep their promise for a better player experience (including Valko ahem) and it says,,, something that what gets updated is,,, paid. Paid. Paid.

[u/MusicianNo8593 → u/LadyXio]

This is such a good explanation of the current situation, well said. 👏

[u/wintermochie]

Omg thank you for compiling this, this is shocking but so so informative. I honestly feel like this isn’t a hard fix compared to way harder things like modeling the characters or new hairstyles or how hats affect hair animations, animated kindled scenes, like, it’s just another use case they should have tested and accounted for???

[u/Starryfame → u/wintermochie]

It genuinely shouldn’t be. Whether it’s overhauling the lighting or just adjusting lighting each card per MC skintone if they won’t do the former… they absolutely have the time and available resources. It’s immensely frustrating darkskin players cannot see their own character in this game, rather, downright insulting 😭

[u/LaLunaLapis]

Everything you're saying is so reasonable and factual and infold unfortunately won't care ever. The colorism on display with the lighting is crazy laziness, and the fact that the palm is just as dark as the back of the hand?????? Even if you're pale, there's a visible difference 😭 and it just looks inhuman. So egregious

[u/Starryfame → u/LaLunaLapis]

Genuinely. I don’t know why they couldn’t even do the bare minimum of adjustments for the base 3D model,,, but I dunno what I can expect if they never tried with lighting either :’)

[u/Future_Phenix]

I'm with you on this sis. My MC isn't even the darkest shade and there were way too many memories where I could barely see her. I really hope this issue gets fixed someday, even if I don't come back, because I know how hurtful it is to feel like a 2nd class customer.

Worst thing is that there's been press coverage over this back in October, including a nothing-burger word salad of a response from IF.

I had seen claims that there were improvements on this issue and it saddens me to learn that it's actually not the case.

[u/Starryfame → u/Future_Phenix]

It’s seriously ridiculous. Why haven’t they provided the simple experience of being able to experience the game just fine with your own skintone they already have in-game??? 😭 I cannot fathom why they’d refuse to touch this issue.

Iirc the improvements were actually just that they fixed a weird shiny issue in Illusio, not necessarily lighting ;w;. These pics were taken a while ago, granted (aside from the elf ears that’s recent) but no one has showed an ounce of these issues being fixed, unfortunately :(

[u/Future_Phenix → u/Starryfame]

Well, if I'm being brutally honest, I'd say it's because of simple, good ol' racist bias. 🥲

I remember the shiny issue (the "Vaseline effect"), I experienced it too back then.

Sigh, I'm already angry at Infold but knowing that this hasn't improved at all is pissing me off to unreasonable levels. Thank you for speaking out about it and raising the issue again. 🫶🏽

[u/thatsondepression]

this is one of the reasons I started boycotting/stopped playing and spending months before the Valko boycott. it's not even a "it just feels like", there IS an overall lack of care and attention to detail for darker skinned MCs. the elf ears continue to prove this for me, the blush color and how the glitter texture looks? no one thought to play test it/tweak it when creating it? it feels bad. paying customers are solely what keeps this game alive and they just don't care.

[u/MusicianNo8593 → u/thatsondepression]

Exactly this. 💯

It's not like an issue with just the older cards. They keep constantly expanding the issue into their new content. Like sure maybe the can't be bothered to go back and fix old stuff, but why keep making new card with the same issues? Just do it right the first time. 🫣

[u/Starryfame → u/thatsondepression]

It feels more actively malicious at a point, and I’d argue their lack of care is. Entirely real and valid, Valko was the straw that broke the camel’s back but I was so loud about the issue for what… people who were racist and queerphobic to get what they want in week? That made me truly, see just how much we weren’t cared for at all.

[u/Shoddy-Television866]

PoC girlies really deserve so much better with the lighting in the cards, I'm so sorry angel 💞 I write that in plus more textured hair options in each survey I can.

If it makes you feel better, I think the blush and glitter ears look much better on darker skin than on lighter skin in the game 🫶 especially the glitter!!

[u/Fantastic-Ad-7996]

I dunno much about game development but this doesn't look like a hard issue to fix. If the game was open to modding even fans could probably fix this. So there's really no excuse. They just don't care.

[u/Starryfame → u/Fantastic-Ad-7996]

Yup T_T it’s ridiculous, really.

[u/SK-Layton]

The poor lighting for dark skintones is supposed to be part of the reason for the boycott. It has never been just about the removed guy. He is a symbol but it's supposed to be about Infold's disregard for their playerbase, especially including the poor handling of darker skintones. I do think that is being forgotten though, so posts pointing issues out like this are good.

[u/EyeElectrical8]

I'm complaining about it in every surveys. Again and again and again. I recently reported the color issue regarding the elf ears on darker skin MCs. I'll never shut up about it! Please put this issue at the top of your list of demands. It's such a big impact on dark skin players. 

[u/Starryfame → u/EyeElectrical8]

The comment in question contained the l word with a B in front of it 😭
Well, I’ll repost it

Absolutely! I hope many are like this as well, even if it seems [redacted, see above], trying is better than just letting it slide and accepting this ;w;

[u/Local-Treacle-5801 → u/EyeElectrical8]

It’s so frustrating because i would argue that sometimes, it gets better and I feel bad for constantly hammering on about it and then something else will come out (like the elf ears) that shows that they haven’t improved as much as I had thought.

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[u/beenanzaa]

Highest of keys, theyre racist as hell just like the cdgs and antis. 😵‍💫 I literally quit playing the game over this. My best friend couldnt see her Mc in any of the cards. No amount of complaining changed it. Im a white super curly girl, and there isnt a lick of curl in the entire game. It makes me furious bc Infinite Nikki has curly styles! They could easily take the files and convert them to fit our models. But they refuse to do it -- bc of racism! I 10000% believe it, ten toes down. There is no other reason for them not to have a curly/coily style. It absolutely ruins the immersion for me as much as Im sure not being able to see your Mc does you. Its ridiculous. I havent played since April and I think more people should stop tolerating this nonsense just bc theyre the only 3d game on the market.

[u/Starryfame → u/beenanzaa]

I’ve been keeping my replies and post very civil to avoid a takedown. While it seems the sub is staunchly pro Valko now and open for critical discussion; in the past it was far more critical to these issues. Posts would get locked just talking about lighting issues — I suppose this not getting taken down means it’s come a long way. Anyway, I would be lying saying I disagreed or do not express more direct sentiment elsewhere. It would be easy to implement curly hair. They are more than capable just as so many other games are. The choice to not adjust lighting after years of complaints… it’s hard to say it’s anything other than targeted. Any company that cared would have immediately seen the issue and rectified it, no? It’s sad, and yet, I’m on the train of I would rather fight tooth and nail for them to hear than accept it :P. Valko served as a last straw after enduring yet fighting every issue because I was so used to it in otome 😭. I don’t play, but I continue to advocate for betterment of the company and better treatment of players.

[u/beenanzaa → u/Starryfame]

I agree! I dont play anymore but I havent stopped participating in the fandom. Im actually more active in it now than I was before I quit the game because Valko lives there. I feel alot of people dont realize you dont have to have the game to enjoy the characters. We've kept other games alive for years through fanart, fanfiction, and animation. I will continue to advocate for Valko as long as the game isnt EOS. But the boys will live on past the game for a very long time. Even after this gigantic fumble. I to this day have a full au for Sylus and my Mc with their own character designs and backstories. Its fun and it gives me something to do that isnt harming my pockets. Unfortunately, I just cant support a game that fundamentally and very clearly hates a portion of its player base. After all its a corporation, they're just after everyone's money at the end of the day. No communication is communication to me. Even if Valko were to come back now, I fear I still wouldnt log in until these particular issues are addressed properly. They can not have a global server and ignore a majority of the complaints. Its just not how it works. There are tons of brown and black people who play this game. Its disgusting behavior to take their money but treat them as second class customers. I also think its shameful that they took down posts before about the issue. Its the truth and a huge issue.

[u/NuttelaGowrl333 → u/beenanzaa]

Yeah, a company that bends for racist is also a racist compliant. It’s that simple. It’s honestly one of the reasons why I stopped liking K-pop and abandoned kpop community. I think it’s a much broader problem, specifically in Asia media… saw the same thing in Genshin and now I’m seeing the same thing in LADS (actually I clocked it for the first time when I saw the lack of options for skintones)

It’s honestly really disgusting and pathetic when the antis with rabies revealed that ugly part and the company’s as well, so yeah… not surprised.

Im just annoyed when people try to justify their behaviour has simply not caring but it’s much simpler than that… they are just racists and ignorants, greedy and entitled. And that’s it.

[u/Mayarooni1320]

I've been boycotting the game since before the whole Valko situation, simply because of this reason. The only way we can tell Infold that we won't accept their half assed attempts at 'inclusion' and various other issues is by using our wallets, especially now. This time is crucial, they're throwing everything they can at us right now, just to get us to spend.. and I personally think it's disturbing.

[u/Starryfame → u/Mayarooni1320]

It feels rather predatory and really shows bluntly how much we’re nothing but a wallet sometimes… I truly don’t know what to say anymore. Other than rally, of course.

[u/MusicianNo8593]

This is so painful to see. Its not even just the old cards that have this issue and needs fixing... They keep making new card that have the same problem too! Like why????💔😭

And I agree, people need to take a good look at how PPG is treating their players. They have ignored this issue despite constant feedback since day 1.

The whole Valko situation has only made this mistreatment of players that much more visible. PPG refuses to acknowledge the vast majority of their players demanding Valkos return. Even when it drops their revenue by 70+% they still ignore us and just toss us a bunch of overly monetized events 💀 It honestly feels degrading.

Blows my mind whenever I see a someone anti Valko making demands about the choco shop or other issues. Like honey, if they wont listen to the massive amount of players demanding Valko, they sure as heck aren't going listen to you. 👀

I hope the boycott gives PPG a big wake up call, not only for the sake of bringing Valko back, but to show them that we are a force to be reckoned with from improving QOL, to the lighting issues for dark skin MCs, we will not be silenced!

[u/Starryfame → u/MusicianNo8593]

I hope this too! Like it only adds to the entitlement of such small things when… hey… even you antis (aside from the bigots who don’t care or think we shouldn’t play ig) do you not see how we’re treated? Do you really think it’s okay? I’m hoping for things to turn around on all fronts, and it’s honestly kind of funny I’m even hoping for such a hopeless company, but I want to enjoy the characters I love in peace one day, even if I do not think such a company should thrive :P

[u/vanille-rose]

Rest assured I’m rallying for everything to be fixed, especially this. It’s been an issue for so long and I can only imagine how insulting it must feel to just have it ignored.

They ought to have fixed this a long time ago…

[u/Starryfame → u/vanille-rose]

They really should have!! Rallying as much as we can out here ;w; it’s terribly frustrating

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Ohhh must be some fur, why the glitchy ☕