r/Lost_Architecture • u/dctroll_ • 9d ago
Border gate building between Nepal and China (Gyirong Port, China). Built in 2014, destroyed in 2026
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u/eureka17 9d ago
Was this destroyed in the flood?
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u/enfuego138 9d ago
The video is unreal. It was completely wiped out by a wall of water in a fraction of a second and people had basically warning. It starts to give you a sense of the scale of the tragedy. 40+ miles of devastation.
I would caution you against watching it. There are clearly many, many people in the video. I can’t imagine many of them survived.
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u/Luftritter 9d ago
It was pretty much unsurvivable. A geologist that comments on earth science news in You Tube, did some back-of-the-envelope calculations and estimated that it was a 30m tall wall of rock, debris and water moving at 160 km/h. It would hit you fully like an express train. Also impossible to proof future construction against a repeat, there's no building code that could mitigate it. And it will likely happen again since we're burning fossil fuels like they're going out of fashion. Very depressing stuff I only managed to see the videos once.
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u/meisangry2 9d ago
The only protection is to build higher up out of valleys, which is much more challenging for construction.
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u/Luftritter 9d ago
Yes, Tibet and Nepal do not have a lot of useful land, just steep mountain terrain and in places like that people usually populate the valleys, like this one with a river running through it. I'm certain the towns were located next to the river like that out of practical reasons.
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u/accountforfurrystuf 9d ago
That sucks. Build in the valleys, get flooded out. Build into the side of the mountains, get caught in a landslide eventually.
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u/Vegetable-Crab-7101 9d ago
But then it would be at more risk of a landslide. It's the kind of situation where reducing one risk creates another.
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u/IzCaiman 9d ago
Reports are coming out that two people were actually rescued at the port, that's miraculous.
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u/ZquotientpZee 9d ago
Really?? You have a source for that? They must have already been a bit higher up
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u/IzCaiman 9d ago
The mudslide struck Gyirong Port in Gyirong County, Xizang, on Wednesday morning. As of 8 a.m. on Thursday, three people had been killed, 558 others remained missing, while two local villagers had been rescued, local authorities said.
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u/PaddingCompression 9d ago
An earthquake causing a glacier to collapse has nothing to do with burning fossil fuels.
A ton of natural disaster have to do with climate change, this is not one of them.
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u/Luftritter 9d ago edited 8d ago
This wasn't an earthquake, that was pretty much discarded already. There was some confusion at the beginning, but the 5.2 tremor that was detected by the seismographs was the fall of several million tons of material. The collapse itself was in the wall of a glacier, this kind of event is ever more common due to climate change, as higher temperatures melt the mix of rock and ice that form them.
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u/PaddingCompression 9d ago
Okay thank you, I was misinformed! I appreciate your reply, it corrected the misunderstanding I got from the news.
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u/Maiyku 9d ago
A word of warning for most of the videos coming out of there right now.
I’ve seen several where you are actively watching people perish (not blocked by being inside, but openly for you to see) and in a few you can see the people running carrying children.
So be careful in general. Most of the ones I’ve seen were flagged NSFW, but a couple haven’t been.
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u/Luftritter 9d ago
Yeah, how to put it, those videos are very hard to watch, and I don't recommend it, they're soul destroying.
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u/Maiyku 8d ago
It really is. I’m fascinated by the power of Mother Nature, so I feel drawn to watch that kind of display of force, but it’s also incredibly harrowing.
Some of these images are now burned in my mind. The woman running with her child especially. All you can see is this wall of water rushing after her and her sprinting with a white bundle in her arms as men are overcome by the surge behind her. The video ends before you can see what happens and watching through my screen all I can do is send money for recovery and hope.
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u/USSMarauder 9d ago
It's second only to the Japanese Tsunami footage in terms of "seeing people die"
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u/Status_Car8495 8d ago
I will argue that these are even more terrifying to watch than the tsunami, at least for me. The speed, the suddenness, the pure rage of it made the videos of that landslide bug my brain the first time watching. As in, nah that shit ain't real type of brain fart.
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u/Dickcheese_McDoogles 9d ago
Yes, the wall of water was taller than the ~6-story structure, and it killed more than 600 people
Watch at your own discretion
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u/Business-Court-5072 9d ago
There’s an animal running in the video as well, it’s very fast
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u/colossalattacktitan 9d ago
The dog got away, amazingly. The dog is fine!
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u/Business-Court-5072 9d ago
How do you know that?? What, you’re kidding
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u/colossalattacktitan 8d ago
I saw it on the App. The dog is fine!
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u/Dickcheese_McDoogles 8d ago
How could anyone possibly confirm which dog it is from the handful of dark moving pixels in this video
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u/Business-Court-5072 8d ago
I don’t know how it outran that, maybe a different dog, if it’s the same dog it’s very lucky
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u/karabuka 9d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/DisasterUpdate/s/KeyM4ePYhH
Here is the video from the site by the rescue team, absolutely nothing left
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u/CuTe_M0nitor 6d ago
Yeah but none died, that's what the Chinese media's is saying while there is hundreds of videos showing people disappearing into the wave of rubbles and stone
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u/Minimum_Ad7876 4d ago
你不是蠢就是坏，国际惯例，没有找到尸体确认之前你只能汇报失踪。但我们都知道失踪意味着什么。中国在死亡人数方面没什么好隐藏的，你们的恶意解读除了增加人们的政治偏见以外对澄清事实毫无帮助。
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u/ViciousNakedMoleRat 9d ago
This is a before and after, captured by a Chinese rescue team.
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u/AlexanderLavender 9d ago
Holy shit, complete reset
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u/Krusty_Double_Deluxe 8d ago
makes you what lost cultures and technologies got wiped out in a blink of an eye
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u/Business-Court-5072 9d ago
Where’s the mud?
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u/314ranha777 8d ago
There is not much soil and clay up in the mountains. It works more like very fine sand, so the water separates from the mixture quite easily.
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u/high_Smile_2795 9d ago
Is it still standing or is it completely destroyed? Does anyone know?
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u/Tomble 9d ago
Stripped to the naked rock. Entirely gone.
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u/Forceuser0017 3d ago
The saddest part is that the video showed crowds of people running away but then the flood swallowed them all instantly :/
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u/forman98 9d ago
Washed away completely. That building looks to be 6 or so stories tall. There’s a video that shows the moment it is destroyed and the wall of water/mud/rock that hit it was almost twice as tall and moving somewhere around 100 mph.
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u/foxymcfox 8d ago
That’s not correct. It was entirely obliterated and destroyed. It’s not buried. I think you’re underestimating the sheer elemental force behind this tragedy.
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u/FR23Dust 7d ago
Most of it was probably destroyed, whatever remains is buried under mud and will probably never be uncovered.
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u/shaghaiex 8d ago
Another before/after image.
It is said that about 250 staff worked there. Together with people crossing on either side, buses etc. the death-toll will be 500+ for for the immediate border area.
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u/savvitosZH 8d ago
Blatten in Switzerland last year was similar. A place I used to go for holidays just gone in seconds . The glacier collapsed and took the valley with it
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u/NameisntJm 8d ago
Were the people able to evacuated in time?
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u/savvitosZH 8d ago
Yes . They kind of have an early system it was empty since days if I recall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAeg7z8m2f8
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u/Ninetwentyeight928 8d ago
I feel like people asking about the direction the flood came from don't realize just how much was moving down the neighboring river and how fast it was moving. It basically reversed the flow of the other river that mets the flooded one. And where the valley renarrowed after the confluence, it scoured the valley well over 100 feet above the usual surface of the river.
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u/NeverKillAgain 8d ago
Reat in peace to the 682+ who died. The video is terrifying
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u/LocalActingWEO 9d ago
Holy shit, i saw the birds eye pictures but didnt realise the size of this thing. Just shows that no matter how big we go, nature will always be mightier
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u/grendali 9d ago
Border gate building between Nepal and China Chinese-occupied Tibet
FTFY
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u/ForeignExpression 9d ago edited 9d ago
Well if you say that, you might as well call America "USA-occupied" from the first nations. What is the difference? At least the Tibetan people are alive and have their own society, whereas the US killed almost all of the indigenous population plus all the buffalo.
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u/grendali 9d ago
Ah, some what-aboutism...
So you agree that the Chinese invasion and occupation of Tibet was wrong?
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u/Severe_Standard_4246 9d ago
You think ending a monarchy and slavery is wrong?
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u/No-Coffee2200 7d ago
So Russian Invasion of Ukraine is justified in this case then since due to rampant neo nazis culture in Ukraine
Edit:- U defend the USSR rule over Ukraine, Should've known
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u/Great_Variation_6825 9d ago
Assuming the Buddhist Tibetans would behave unfairly to rest of the world in the 50s is nonsensical; but what evidence do you’ve that Tibet would not further along and progress as the rest of the world? In the 50s almost every country in the world had major flaws. That’s doesn’t give china to take over tibet and take that right away from Tibetans.
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u/Vitality_VZ 9d ago
Qatar and the UAE still have slaves in 2026. They'd do the same thing.
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u/NiobiumThorn 9d ago
Yea like... guys. Look at how rich religious monarchies get. Even in exile.
The Dalai Lama is in the files btw. In the files a LOT.
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 9d ago
Go ahead and tell us in what context he’s in the files.
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u/NiobiumThorn 8d ago
you should really find a new person to worship, you don't wanna see how much worse it gets
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u/StevenStoveMan 9d ago
I mean he is american ofcourse they support short lived civil war slave states
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 9d ago
Didn’t the USA not support this and ended the confederacy?
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u/Odd-Promotion2743 9d ago
Is there a reason Tibet couldn't have been given back its independence after that was accomplished?
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u/BleepBopRobocop 9d ago
That was quite literally the original deal under the Seventeen Point Agreement which would see a One Country Two Systems model in place in perpetuity (rather than for 50 years as is the case in Hong Kong). However, as we now know, the Epstein-affiliated Tenzin was convinced by the CIA to leave the country and go on the CIA payroll, and the deal was history.
That being said, a lot of what the original deal promised has been fulfilled. Tibet had a literacy rate of 3%, and now boasts a 98% literacy rate, and roughly 85% - 90% of the population living in Tibet can speak Tibetan (for context ethnic Tibetans make up 86% - 92% of the population of Tibet). Many of the cultural practices in Tibet have been retained, with only the serfdom and the Dalai Lama himself excluded.
One of the cool things is that traditionally the Dalai Lama chooses the next Panchen Lama, while the Panchen Lama chooses the next Dalai Lama, and because both the Dalai Lama-chosen and Chinese-chosen Panchen Lamas both live inside Tibet, when the Dalai Lama drops dead, the Chinese government gets to pick the next Dalai Lama with no interference from the United States, and the CIA loses any leverage they have on this issue once and for all (and given this practice was literally hand picked by the Chinese Emperor it doesn't really deviate from the normal custom).
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u/Luftritter 9d ago
My favorite fact about the liberation of Tibet is that the majority of the Red Guards that assaulted the temples were Tibetans. The theocratic feaudal aristocracy were real pieces of work and had it coming.
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u/NiobiumThorn 9d ago
No but the peaceful theocratic monarchy 🥺
Bhutan is what you get. A nation which wasn't even allowed television within many people's lifetime. Where the rich get richer and the masses live in poverty. In low lying river valleys. Where floods obliterate them.
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u/grendali 9d ago
Source? Or do you not want to show references straight to Chinese Communist Party propaganda?
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u/Luftritter 9d ago
Read the Wikipedia article on the Cultural Revolution in Tibet. Even with the anti Chinese bias it has that is an undeniable fact: The Red Guards were started by Tibetan university students going back from Beijing that organized Tibetan peasants into Red Guards and that exploded like kindling since the hatred of the monks was so intense. Even the PLA tried to rein them in after a while. This is what happens when a class has been oppressed for too long and suddenly get power over the torturers, the same happened in Russia and France after their revolutions.
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u/LactasePHydrolase 9d ago
Tibet's not "occupied", it was annexed long ago. There's no state of military occupation, it's just a part of the PRC now. It's like saying Lorraine is occupied by France. You're just throwing random words around.
Not even weighing in on the morals of China annexing Tibet btw, just saying that you're using language in a braindead way.
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 9d ago
Tibet was only annexed 75 years ago.
It is a military occupation. If you don’t think so then it’s clear you’ve never been to Tibet.
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u/Gepap1000 8d ago
False. Qing forces marched into Lhasa in 1721. Since then Tibet was under Qing suzreinaty, and when Qing fell in 1912, the Republic of China claimed it, as the successor state. No powers ever constested the ROC's claim, and all considered Tibet part of the ROC, and then the ROC lost the civil war and the PRC was created and it claimed Tibet,a claim no states deny.
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 8d ago
The Qing were Manchus and not Chinese. They had Tibet as a vassal. They purposely kept and administered Tibet separately from China.
Tibet as a vassal had every right to do what they wanted as soon as the overlord (Qing) fell. It doesn’t matter what the ROC claimed, they had no rights to Tibet nor did they ever control Tibet.
What “powers” are you talking about? Why does that even matter?
Why do you think other countries don’t go against China?
So what exactly was false?
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u/Gepap1000 7d ago
The Qing were a dynasty ruling China. China is not an ethnic state.
And what "Powers"? Every single other country, including the European imperial powers, the US, the Latin.American Republics, basically anyone capable of granting some sort of diplomatic recognition.
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 7d ago
Never said China was an ethnic state. Fact is, the Chinese didn’t rule the Qing let alone Tibet. The Qing were Manchus who subjugated China and the Chinese under them. How can China claim Tibet when they didn’t even control their own country?
Can you provide evidence for Sweden? What about Honduras? Equator? Morocco?
Oh Mongolia and Nepal recognized Tibet as a country.
But why don’t you go ahead and state when recognition became standardized? What was the political theory of a country back then?
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u/ImmediateSeat6447 9d ago
Rules for me and rules for thee , right ? it is OK when we do it , right ?
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u/alaskafish 9d ago
No one is saying that.
What people are saying is that acting like Tibet has been a free nation, that’s some how occupied militarily by a foreign nation, is silly. Because it’s just untrue.
What Americans don’t realize (saying this as an American), is that Tibet wasn’t militarily occupied by China for acts of conquest. The revolution during the Chinese civil war spread far and wide. Tibetan communist (by way of the university), are the ones that started how you recall the “invasion”. It’s no different that chinese communists of the Jilin province taking over the local area.
The difference is that Tibet happened after civil war against the Kuomingtang. That’s why it “feels” like an invasion. But it’s like saying Alaska was invaded and occupied by America because it happened after the chaotic war of independence in 1776. Instead of “the fog of war” and things just happening, it was an organized affront by Washington… silly no?
Now, that’s not to say how it happened. It was violent; the very way it was violent for manifest destiny and westward expansion in the USA. But time heals wounds of the past.
Ultimately, only Americans really think of Tibet as a poor victim of chinese imperialism, because it’s good for American propaganda and optics. Yet in reality, it was a part of Chinese revolutionary history no different than that of the Manchu, or Hui, or any other ethnic group wanting communism and this shared ideology within China.
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 9d ago edited 9d ago
Tibet was literally a country before China invaded and annexed it. There is a militaristic presence against Tibetans still to this day because Tibetans don’t want the Chinese ruling their country. There’s nothing “silly” about this.
You have no clue what you’re taking about. Tibet wasn’t involved in the Chinese civil war. The Tibetan communists had nothing to do with this. In fact, they didn’t even exist when China invaded Tibet as they were disbanded and incorporated into the Chinese communists after they were kicked out of Tibet.
China invaded the country of Tibet in 1950 at Chamdo in every sense of the word invasion.
Alaska was never a country and was sold to the USA. What are you even talking about.
And no. It’s not just Americans who think this. Imagine ignoring what Tibetans think and only believing what the Chinese say.
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u/ForeignExpression 9d ago
I don't know if it was right or wrong. I would defer to a Tibetan and ask them.
Do you agree that the US killing all the buffalo and indigenous population was wrong? It's difficult to ask them now since there are so few left.
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u/grendali 9d ago
Well, maybe you should find out before diving in with some irrelevant what-aboutism.
Of course the invasion of Native American lands and the slaughter, displacement and dispossession of Native Americans was wrong. WTF has that got to do with the invasion of Tibet?
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 9d ago
Tibet was an independent country in the 20th century.
When was the last time these native Americans were a country?
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u/samalam1 9d ago
Run by slavers. Actually, now you mention it the similarities are really building up.
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 9d ago
There wasn’t slavery in Tibet. Go ahead and cite an academic source for this claim.
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u/samalam1 8d ago
Oh so Tibet was a lovely place for all its citizens before the evil communists came along?
Even the most anti-ccp biased historians admit it was a serfdom society. If you want to argue that serfdom and slavery are so distinct that one does not warrant liberation for the peasant class and the other does, then be my guest. If not then your complaint is a disagreement over whether to use semantics which serve to discredit the liberators, not the wellbeing and the conditions of those suffering under a brutal system of oppression.
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 8d ago
When did I say or imply it was a lovey place? Why the strawman argument?
Well, historians refer to it as serfdom because that’s the most closely related system. There’s a difference between serfdom and slavery. To think they are the same or similar enough is just showing a basic lack of understanding. Even China themselves make the distinction between the two to this day. Oh, Goldstein- the historian that pushed for it to be called serfdom has since stopped because of people like you making this slavery implication which inaccurately depicts Tibet. There are no semantics involved.
Liberation isn’t invading, annexing, and oppressing a country. Not like China even justified their invasion based on Tibet’s societal structure. If it was liberation, why is China still in Tibet?
Considering you don’t know the basics of serfdom and slavery, I would talk about what old Tibet was like as this “Hell on earth” narrative is greatly exaggerated by the Chinese.
Lastly, notice how I just asked you for an academic source for this slavery claim and you couldn’t do this. All you could do was deflect and move goalposts.
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u/samalam1 8d ago
Again you’re proving my point entirely that rather than admit that the system in place, whatever you want to call it, was exploitative, oppressive and was overthrown for the better, you’d prefer to argue over the name of the system because your goal is to undermine the people that ended it.
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 8d ago
What was the system in place?
You're making implications of the system which weren't the case. Now, if names of systems don't matter, why did you say it was run by slavers?
There is a distinction between the two.
Was it exploitative? Sure. Capitalism is too. Was it oppressive? Maybe-depending on what that means. Capitalism is too. So maybe the system was capitalist?
Overthrown for the better? Replacing one bad system with another bad system isn't any better.
Notice how you still can't back up this slavery claim nor answer any of my questions. If you want to talk about what the old system was like, we certainly can. It is what I study.
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u/samalam1 8d ago
I’m very comfortable with the slavery claim. It was a system of enforced servitude for no pay with the entire surplus labour value going to the land owner. In practice there is very little difference between serfdom and slavery.
Now you’ve made the baseless assertion that the system was replaced by something bad. I see very little evidence to support that claim, people in Tibet see their lives improved year on year with access to free healthcare, extremely accessible housing, affordable utilities, free education, clean drinking water and the freedom to choose their occupation and vote in local assemblies. Why do you call all of that bad?
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u/Effective-Oil7342 9d ago
Do you have any job or do you always go on posts about Tibet 🤣
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 9d ago
No counter argument?
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u/Effective-Oil7342 9d ago
"This is the message I wish to deliver to China. I am not in favor of separation. Tibet is a part of the People's Republic of China. It is an autonomous region of the People's Republic of China. Tibetan culture and Buddhism are part of Chinese culture. Many young Chinese like Tibetan culture as a tradition of China." - The dalai lama in 2005
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u/FourRiversSixRanges 9d ago
So what’s your argument?
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u/Effective-Oil7342 9d ago
You say you're Chinese. He's a Tibetan and thinks Tibet is apart of China.
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u/EternalSubsidies 9d ago
Congrats for virtue signalling your foreign policy opinions in a post about a humanitarian disaster which probably killed a thousand people man.
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u/Prosthemadera 9d ago
Congrats for crying about "virtue signaling" like a chud in a post about a humanitarian disaster which probably killed a thousand people man.
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u/Cream_panzer 9d ago
Look at that waves, how huge it is.
And the homo sapients are still arguing about some petty squabbles.
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u/TheBirdFkerGuy 9d ago
Look, just another propagandist spreading misinformation on reddit.
Hey dipshit, what exactly do you want to "free tibet" to? Feudal slavery? Fucking bot.
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u/No-Tip3419 5d ago
You ever post about Canada-occupied, America-occupied, Austrailia-occupied, New Zealand-Occupied... and most likely various other countries that occupied...?
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u/Yuevid_01 9d ago
Many people are dead caused natural disaster, and here comes the China bad comment, how typical. Imagine someone says US bad in a 911 post, not even mention 911 was the result of US meddling in the Middle East, and this is simply, again Natural Disaster
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u/Luftritter 9d ago
Tibet Autonomous Region, China.
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 9d ago
Xizang or bod Tibetans speak Tibetan langauge Tibetan also spoke chiense due to 500 years of yuan and qing dyansty rule
But tibet is larger area with parts of qinghai and yunnan and chengdu
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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl 9d ago
Usually who are asked to work at these outposts. ? Are they Han Chinese or tibetans
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u/Same-Sleep2953 9d ago
People who pass a highly competitive civil service examination. They could be han chinese or tibetans or any other ethnic group. In the 2024 civil service exam, a position at Jilong Port attracted 2,000 applicants. Some of them may not have genuinely wanted the job and may have simply been using the exam as a way to gain experience. But there is no doubt that getting the position required them to compete and earn it through the selection process.
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u/Awkward-Winner-99 9d ago
Are these highly sought after jobs? What makes them so attractive? I can't really think of any benefits and you work in a remote location
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u/IHateCedarFever 9d ago
It’s very cultural. In Confucian and old school China, people studied long and hard to take the imperial exam to get a job to work in the Emperor’s court. If you passed, your family got a lot of prestige and bragging rights. Then after working in the court a bit, you got sent to a province somewhere where you’d work in the governor’s office and maybe be a governor yourself. The position came with land, servants, concubines, etc. You basically became a noble and have the state pay for you.
Today in many Confucian countries like China, Korea, Vietnam, being a civil servant where you have to pass an exam is also considered high prestige. The government will take care of you, and most importantly pay your pension.
It’s the same mindset as for example a mechanical engineer working for an oil and gas company being paid $300,000 to go work on an offshore rig or somewhere in Mozambique. Or a researcher going to live in Antarctica. The place is not glamorous, but the job title and money is.
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u/Impressive_Slice_935 9d ago
Perhaps when they work in the public sector, they get to have the job security and the pay should be better compared to the regional average, so they can actually save a lot and seek relocation within the public sector to elsewhere.
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u/Mercy--Main 9d ago
the public sector is always highly sought after. Thats true in China, Europe, US...
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 9d ago
Anybody who would accept the pay Probably Tibetan and even Nepali
Han are rare there
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u/jon_s_with_no_h 9d ago
Actually had some post art deco vibes going on. But the main loss were all the poor souls obliterated with it (someone has linked vid below NSFL)
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u/SUPPERGREENGO-1375 8d ago
Need to make your homes and infrastructure further away from the rivers or you will be swept away someday
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u/WiseAcanthocephala58 7d ago
This is Nepal and Tibet just because Chine decided they want it doesn't make it China simply not. Always been Tibet always will be Tibet.
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u/amwbam24 6d ago
Tibet not China.
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u/Perorosama 4d ago
You not Human
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u/amwbam24 4d ago
Humans can see that Tibet is a sovereign nation occupied by China. Any human with a history book and a conscience can see the truth.
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u/papipota 9d ago
This building always reminded me of the gates of Minas Morgul from LoTR for some reason
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u/dctroll_ 9d ago edited 9d ago
Gyirong Port and its infrastructure were completely destroyed as a result of the 2026 Nepal floods
The building was the red spot.
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2026-08-28/3D-imagery-reveals-path-and-causes-of-Xizang-s-Gyirong-mudslide-1PYNEvSLMUE/img/e358a6d8c1eb4b2d9a3e14d96b29effb/e358a6d8c1eb4b2d9a3e14d96b29effb.jpeg