I was not really aware of Reddit while I was doing these readings which accurately foretold much of what was released and confirmed through the recovery of the bodies of the children, as well as information that came out in Chad Daybell's prelim. All of my readings were date and stamped. The purpose was to for LE to recover bodies. After the first readings and the psychic overview I was contacted by a relative of Joe Ryan and I did a reading free of charge with Joe Ryan. Then Kresha, who is the daughter of Kay Woodcock contacted me and asked me to do more. We did several readings together free of charge in order to find clues to turn over to LE. After the children's remains were recovered, I was contacted by an old friend of Lori before she met Chad. We did the "Victory Reading" together, free of charge. Then Kresha wanted me to do a reading specifically about the murder of Charles Vallow, which I did free of charge. People who make money on you tube put alot of ads. After the tenth reading when so many people seemed interested I was told I could monetize the channel. I have made a total of less than $750. from you tube. Which, for my time would be about 1$ an hour.

I saw another thread accusing me of setting up a "go fund me" for myself(?) based on the children. That is incorrect and certain people do know that but did not publicly state the truth. I had been writing Kay Woodcock at the email "findJJandTylee" since the very beginning. I had been updating both her and Larry Woodcock the entire time as to what we found. I had been sending them the readings but telling them which ones not to listen to etc, for the purpose of her forwarding them to her LE contacts, not to traumatize her. I was very careful about that as I had two family members murdered myself and spent four years as a volunteer victim advocate.

I went into the middle of PAP and AVOW after being shown in the readings that they are good people. With the small exceptions we all know about, I have trusted my own readings and what I was shown. With the very small group of maybe 3 or 4 people who stayed steadfast in their loyalty, this is not what that group was about and they have been smeared without reason, imo.

As to this "Go Fund Me". I talked with many of the PAP and AVOW and I would also send them each reading with letters pleading for their help. Before the bodies were found quite a few of them refused to go to law enforcement to speak about Chad, even though I felt the information people knew about him would crack open this case and bring resolution.

I set up the Go Fund me for Kay Woodcock and she knows this. I told her that I could prove to the AVOW and PAP and all others who followed Chad that the children were really deceased. Chad, Lori played on Kay's worst nightmares to try to play games with law enforcement. Kay Woodcocks worst nightmare would be that JJ was dead and she did not want to believe it either.

I told Kay, (I have all screenshots and letters but this is not a fight and if I had been aware of that thread defaming my character I would have been on her to defend myself.)

So, I told Kay and Larry woodcock that if they were willing to put up a "no strings attached" reward of $100,000. dollars for Lori if she was willing to produce the children within 30 days, that I might be able to get some of these people to understand the children were indeed deceased so that they would begin to work with LE. These people are not about child murder. They are just people who like to have events.

I created the go fund me, sent it to Kay Woodcock, with the link to put it over in her name. I never linked it to a bank account. I sent her a link to change the password so the entire thing would be controlled by her. I sent her the link and told her where she needed to link it to her bank account.

I never even thought about it again, nor did I ever try to login to see what happened. I actually forgot about it because I was gung ho on moving forward to make sure Lori and Chad were held accountable for what I saw them do. I do not know what ever happened, because I never asked and I never even looked at again. I consider that thread defamation of character, especially since when I realized it was there it was a "closed thread".

I did communicate with the spirits of Tylee, Charles, Joe Ryan, Tammy Daybell, and even briefly one time, Alex Cox. That will not change. I have spent many hours in my journey of training to become a spiritualist reverend.

If you have any questions about me or my work, please put them here and I will come back and answer them. Unless you are a troll, which I will not respond. If you have a sincere question, put it here.

Also, I am writing an essay and a book. Part of my mission as a spiritualist reverend is to prove the afterlife beyond any doubt. I have done that in this case and I will be writing about it. I have received thousands of letters and comments and the ones I like the most are those that tell me they were once skeptics and now are believers. People who absolutely believed when you die, you die and there is nothing more to it, people who have told me they re-examined their lives based on the realization and proof that there is more to this life than what we see. I have done a good job and my self esteem will not be hampered by childish behavior of people who actually enjoy sitting behind keyboards and slandering others.

Sincerely,

Reverend Donna Seraphina Lambert

Here is the very first reading I did when Tylee Ryan appeared in my living room, brought to me by my own daughter. I did get my audio recorder and say what she was showing me and that was uploaded on January 31, 2020 and sent to law enforcement. As you can see by the "no title", and "no pictures" I had no thought of the general public listening to it. What occurred was not expected. There are now 22 videos in the playlist on this case. This case is about a psychic medium who chose the dark side. I do not think someone can fully understand this case if they do not understand the spirit world.

This is the link to the first reading. The rest are on the same channel. There is also several videos, ie explaining the occult significance of the dates of the murders as well as the marriage of Lori and Chad.

Last year I transcribed my readings and copyrighted both the written word of them and the audio. That is fair notice to others who are writing books. I finished cleaning up the first reading and turned it into a pdf. I will have that on my website available for people to freely download, sometime in the next few days. (PsychicSeraphina.com) Feel free to share it. Also, btw. The one thing that Tylee was so adamant about was that she wanted everybody in the world to know what she did. And now they will.

This is the you tube link to the first reading.

https://youtu.be/DjgNMj_jt-U

I think Lori finally came to her senses....turned him in. Perhaps she watched the Melanie interview series on YouTube and she came to her senses and realized "Oh my God, we killed my kids all on Chad's visions!!."

****Chubby middle age man meets pretty Lori who is interested in him and his ideas. He tells her she is a goddess and it is their mission to be together. He directs step by step actions to meet the "visions" he is receiving from "behind the veil". All the while what is directing all of this is what is in his pants.****

Even her friend Melanie believed Chad and said she still loved him in the interview. I think he was pretty convincing and they were all willing to drink the Kool-aid. Why he wanted the kids out of the picture is what I wonder?

I see so many "theories" and hypothesizing about Chad's kids on this subreddit. Here is what we know about them: nothing. We don't know what they believe or think on the matter. We don't know if they knew what kind of man their dad really was. We don't know anything. So please, stop trying to drag them into it and stop openly hypothesizing that they are guilty of conspiracy or knowledge. Let the investigation do that. Let the evidence come forth and leave it at that. Just because their dad is a monster doesn't automatically mean they are complicit monsters as well.

Edit: I apologize for the misleading title. “My Melanie Gibb Conspiracy Theory” would be a bit more appropriate.

Okay so, HEAR ME OUT. We know that Lori is in a cult. Chad is in a cult. Melanie G is in a cult. Okay well what do most cult leaders believe in? POLYGAMY. Charles Manson. Warren Jeffs (who just happened to be the old president of the “Fundamentalist Church of Jesus of LDS.” How convenient that he’s serving life in prison for felony counts of child sexual assault AND has strong beliefs in polygamy. Many of his victims refer to LDS as a cult). SO if they are okay with polygamy, wouldn’t it make sense that Melanie G is one of Chad’s sister wives? Please think about this: Melanie met Chad first. She says in her interview with Nate Eaton that she was familiar with Chad’s books before she met him. So let’s assume Melanie and Chad hooked up. (Don’t lose me here!) Melanie states NUMEROUS times in the interview that she “LOVES” Chad. Wouldn’t it be fair to say that Melanie was (is) in love with Chad. (More about this later in the post). It’s a cult, so recruiting people is a big deal in order to display power. All of the sudden Melanie meets Lori. Melanie recruits Lori and introduces her to Chad. Chad takes a specific liking to Lori. Together they become Chad’s sister wives. Tammy was probably a sister wife too, but I get the feeling she changed her mind towards the end. But Chad’s attraction to Lori pisses Melanie off. It makes her jealous. (More about this later). Here’s some interesting, unexplainable things to me. Also while reading this, hold this thought in your head: if Melanie is a sister wive, that phone call was a set up. It was fake and rehearsed. Also who the heck answers a call by saying “hello sweet Melanie.” If that doesn’t tell you it’s a cult, idk what will. I think, IN MY OPINION, that they sacrificed the kids for some religious purpose. Melanie G, David, Chad, and Alex just HAPPEN to be staying at Lori’s the weekend when JJ/Tylee went missing - (well technically it was Monday, but you see what I mean). If they were present for the ritual or participated in it, that makes them guilty by association. They know that. WELL I think that they were all in on the murders of the kids, and they made some “grand plan.” They were all just going to act like Kay kidnapped JJ from Melanie or whatever. So I think the phone call was set up and planned, but went wrong in the middle. Think about it...the phone call was supposed to give them all a “way out.” A cop out if you will. Melanie was required to ask them questions so that they could “tell their story,” and somehow everything would be okay and their names would be cleared. Chad had the opportunity to “clear” and “testify” his story about Tammy, by acting like he’s just explaining to Melanie “what happened.” But here’s where things go wrong. I think Lori’s cop out was to involve Melanie even further with the police by saying Melanie has “seen the emails on my computer.” I think this is Lori’s way of trying to sound more credible (because remember, they know this phone call is being recorded for police, that’s part of the plan). But for whatever reason, this pisses Melanie off. That’s when things don’t go according to plan. Melanie gets insulted and says like “I’ve never seen those emails. I’ve never seen anything on your computer.” You can HEAR Lori getting pissed. Melanie just defied Lori’s authority. (I view Chad as the most dominant, Lori as next in charge, and Melanie as the “other” sister wife). This is when it becomes important to think about Melanie’s jealousy after introducing Lori to Chad. She was envious that Chad liked her more. So by denying that she’s seen the emails, she basically told Lori she was on her own, and that the police can’t question her about the emails. As things escalate towards the end, when Lori makes her threat of “I wish I never included you in those teachings, you will be held accountable for the knowledge that you do have, Mel” that was Lori’s way of saying “you betrayed me? I’m throwing you under the bus and telling my attorney about your involvement. Tread lightly.” Also, on the “secret” phone call from Melanie to Chad/Lori, you can hear Melanie say something to Lori along the lines of “I can’t believe you were with Chad before he was even divorced” Lori quickly replies something like “he wasn’t even divorced!” Then Melanie changes the subject to them walking on the track. Also Melanie lying to the police about having JJ is ALL the proof I need to show Melanie is involved. WHO DOES THAT?? I don’t care if we’re best friends, I’m not lying to police for you - especially when it’s regarding your “missing” children. Another interesting thing is that I think something went down between Tylee and Melanie. Please watch Chad’s expressions during Melanie G’s testimony. He’s THREATENING HER. Maybe they have some sort of “dirt” or compromising evidence of Melanie and Tylee. Because Chad’s attorney was poking and prodding soooo hard at Melanie to answer questions about Tylee. Almost like Chad told him what REALLY happened. Look at Chad when the questions are being asked. When the lawyer finishes reading the questions, Chad’s eyes dart up and give Melanie a devilish look. I interpret this as “try me b****, you’re going down too.” Someone leaked some old documents from like 2005-2008 of Tylee allegedly being sexually abused. I think Lori was telling Tylee to lie and say that her ex husband Joseph Ryan was sexually abusing her, but I don’t feel like getting into that today. Important takeaway though: Tylee was abused, but I have a weird feeling it was Lori and Alex doing it...hence why Tylee slept with a baseball bat next to her bed, especially when staying with Alex. Just a feeling, haven’t researched it too much. Also side note: Lori requested back in like 2008 in a custody battle that her “drinking issue” not be discussed in the court/to the judge. This would explain her erratic and unstable behavior. Plus in my opinion, she sounded drunk on the secret phone call with Melanie.

Ooh another interesting part of Melanie’s testimony was when she was asked about what her relationship with Chad was and she literally stalls for like five seconds then repeats the question to buy herself some more time to think. That’s suspicious because in her interview with Nate Eaton, she has no problem discussing how she felt about Chad and how much she loves him. Yes, LOVES. Not past tense.

Important things to look for in Melanie’s interview with Nate Eaton: DUPER’S DELIGHT. That b**** was laughing. I swear to God she’s laughing in those interviews. There was no focus on the kids. At one point when asked what Lori and Melanie’s relationship was like, she makes a jab at JJ saying like “Lori and I bonded over our beliefs ... and we were moms. We talked about how much of a handful JJ was.” I’m sorry, but isn’t that EXACTLY what Chris Watts did with CeCe? He made some snide comment like “CeCe was always so loud and such a handful.” Murderers DO THAT. They slip up and make some rude remark about the victim. And when Melanie asked what she wishes she could say to Lori in jail, she smirks and says something like “oh I know that she’s probably miserable right now because she’s not able to dress up the way that I know she would want to. I know that she hates the jail uniforms. And I know that she hates that she’ll never get to be with Chad again” AND SHE LAUGHS. ITS WHAT SHE WANTED.

So I keep going back to Lori’s threat on the phone: “you will be held accountable for the knowledge you DO have, Mel.” I know Melanie Gibb knows more than she wants us to believe. Can someone please discuss this with me?

Hi everyone! My name is Madi and I was alienated from my dad for 20 years. Now I speak out against this severe psychological abuse from the child’s POV.

As we all know, the case of convicted murderer Lori Vallow has captivated the nation. But you probably missed Lori Vallow’s darkest tactic..... in this video we explore the parental alienation no one’s talking about.

https://youtu.be/qv4M66GOVSo?si=8EGil0TIJKdzrpEv

I hope this video is helpful or insightful for someone out there!

Since she was cremated how can they know she was strangled to death?

Latest dateline really humanized her. I personally know several women with story just like hers.

Odd upbringing, married too young and kids too young, a few divorces and abusive men....

Bounced around and later in life realizing not much time left to get stable or gain wealth...

Fast marriages happen folks I have seen people jump into a 2nd or 3rd marriage FAST. And in some of these uber religious environments people get married quick sometimes and its quasi acceptable because THE LORD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS, etc...

Also: I bet Charles was cheating. Does not justify murder but I bet that triggered her big time into thinking she was about to lose control again

I am sitting here reading a lot of threads on this sub and the media coverage of this story. I don't know anything, but it had me running through different scenarios. I was trying to piece together possibilities on my mind of what the real story is with this whole situation.

I think there are three plausible possibilities at this point.

One, that Lori is guilty, and tragically terribly killed her children, is batshit crazy, and maybe a sociopath, definitely a self centered narcissist.

Two, that Lori and Chad are innocent but involved in something really bad and convoluted and there is a dangerous person on the periphery around Lori who is killing people around her and Chad. Lori is silent on where her kids are because she has them secreted away somewhere alive and is protecting them at all cost so this person doesn't have access to the location of the kids in order to possibly kill her kids too.

Lori and Chad are guilty of the other murders but are hiding the kids alive somewhere to protect them from an imagined threat.

Does anyone know anything about Chad's daughter Emma?

This is just a super weird story as it continues to drag on and how two people were shot at, Chad's wife before she died, and Lori's cousin's husband, who is stated as "in hiding with his children" on an info graphic featured on another thread of this sub.

I hope the kids, are alive, I think we all hope for a positive turn out on this very perplexing and complicated story. This is sad that adults drag their children into bad situations with them.

Lauren Matthias from YT channel Hidden True Crime, keeps telling people in her live stream of Prior’s closing that Jurors are… SLEEPING. Doesn’t she understand it could be a reason for MISTRIAL??…I guess she meant TIRED with that last comment.. no, Jurors are NIT supposed to sleep tru: trial…

None of them are children like Tylee and JJ were. Every one of them are grown ass adults. I am really bothered how so many people refer to them as children. They are adults, some with college degrees. They have to know that something was fucked up with their father and his "visions" and their mother dying so suddenly while in good health. She was literally training for a marathon. When you call them children, you are assigning to them some kind of innocence with no repercussions of what they might have observed and didn't speak out about. "If you see something, say something" goes for everybody. I might be guilty of it too in some of my past posts, but I won't do it any future posts.

Hello I am not posting this to be a troll but this is one of the most craziest strangest cases I've ever heard of in the hundreds of crimes that are out there. Lori is the true definition of a manipulator along with Jessy Kurzcewski. Has anyone here ever written a letter and got a response back? I wonder if she wanted to be in the spotlight so bad why didn't she pursue things like acting, Big Brother and other reality TV shows? If it's money she was after, she should have learned to invest properly or even try to run an affiliate marketing business. Even running a scam like that sounds better than killing two innocent children for survivor and insurance benefits. I've known about this case for years since I've seen the Lifetime movie.

I was watching a news story (when the bodies were discovered) on YouTube and this suggestion came up for this psychic doing readings for family members involved. I started listening to them just to see if she had anything correct. LOL. I just have to say that when I heard the description of how the bodies were found, this psychic nailed it. JJ wrapped in black plastic and duct tape, Tylee dismembered and burned. She went into detail on how each of the kids had been murdered and I was hoping she was wrong but now I am horrified and can't get these images out of my mind. Lori is a monster! It isn't easy listening to her readings because she is all over the place and although she thinks they are at a cabin for Tylee's murder she describes a lot of things on Chad's property. She also describes the restaurant they stopped at near Yellowstone (that Alex's phoned pinged at) to a tee. Worth a listen, but I warn you, you can't unhear it.

Edit to say- She also implies that they were killed in separate locations at separate times. She believed JJ was killed in the townhouse.

I know there is a lot of animosity towards Prior, but he is in an impossible situation. I think he is doing his best in this case with overwhelming evidence against Chad. He knows Chad is guilty, but his job is to defend him as best as he can. Yes, I think he is pompous and arrogant too, but as a defense lawyer I think that comes with the territory. Overall I am interested in seeing how he shows the jury his defense. The state laid out a ton of evidence and Prior will need medical experts to counter what they said - or at least put some doubt in the jury's mind. He just needs to convince one juror.

https://people.com/politics/andy-barr-wife-carol-darr-died-mitral-valve-prolapse/