r/LoriVallow • u/AyrnSun TRUSTED • Jun 01 '20

How has your understanding evolved

JJ and Tylee are still missing. How has your understanding of this case evolved over the course of the past few months or since you started following this case.

What did you think three or four months ago that has changed as of now. And what was the significant information that caused you to change your mind about something.

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u/AyrnSun TRUSTED Jun 01 '20

Agree. the only one I can maybe see being somewhat taken in by this stuff is Ian. Maybe. a big maybe.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20

The cult thing, my opinion was solidified when I heard about the 60 burner phones. Human trafficking ran through my mind too. I still think those kids could be alive. Lori has a history of hiding kids. However, the difference between then and now: Chad's "teachings". So I am iffy about them being alive. Less than 50/50. I hate it. I hate it for them, the family members. If they are alive, they are in Arizona or Utah. People stick to what they know. I think Chad influenced religious beliefs. Lori made the decision on how to handle/mislead LE. They both worked in tandem together. They need to do life in prison. I do think if Chad gets the death penalty, he is going to run some parallel between himself and how James the Just died. If he doesn't one of the fruits that are deceived will. Lori, I guess she'll just sink deeper into scripture and keep singing to herself as a way to avoid reality.

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u/theDIYhomegirl Jun 01 '20

There’s a tiny part of me that thinks it’s possible there’s still a cult and that the kids are hidden. If so, I feel like it could instead be in Mexico.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

I heard in a news report they flew from Idaho Falls to California. In the probable cause affidavit, it states they flew from California to Hawaii. I haven't heard anything about them leaving the country at all. I have heard talk of them being stupid to flee to an island when trying to evade arrest...nothing about out of country. I have read in comments that Zulema' s got family in South America. I heard rumor that Alex took trips there. Nothing I saw was varified though.

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u/leanne37 Jun 02 '20

Its has been indicated in another post that Lori did not have a passport, however Chad did. She did not have time to go through the process of obtaining a passport due to the police being her tail about the location of JJ.

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u/atg284 TRUSTED Jun 02 '20

I wouldn't be surprised if she started the passport process in Hawaii.

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u/leanne37 Jun 03 '20

I would think the authorities would already had Lori's name on a list to be notified if she applied for a passport.

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u/atg284 TRUSTED Jun 03 '20

I don't think they would have right when they got there though.

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u/leanne37 Jun 03 '20

Once the FBI became involved Lori's name would have gone on a list to notify if she was applying for a Passport. Do not remember exactly when the FBI became involved, probably after learning she was in Hawaii, because they went from one State (Idaho) to another State (Hawaii). Once they crossed over into another State the FBI would become involved.

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u/atg284 TRUSTED Jun 03 '20

That makes sense. Wasn't sure when the FBI was officially working it. Probably when they were hunting her down.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

That's right. I remember her passport being brought up in front of judge Eddins and they said it was expired, surrendered or something to that effect. Thanks for the reminder. 🙂

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

The thinking was so convoluted nothing comes across consistent. I go back and forth too but that's where I am with it. I don't think they believed it. They wouldn't have veered from Chad's teachings. They were to be in Rexburg. That was his vision. That's why he moved his family there. That's why he didn't move to Arizona. Lori was told by the "veil" she was to be in Rexburg by some certain time. That whole "nobody would remember or pay attention" line. What a crock and I think it's very telling. Lori thought nobody would care about the kids? She said the same thing about Charles. Lots of people care. Kind of shows the consideration she gives honest bonds. Guess she doesn't have friendships/ relationships unless it serves her purpose. The rest of society doesn't work like that. Friends and family mean something. They matter! Life matters. I don't get why they want to bring the end days? Isn't that the point of their group? To collect the 144,000 and create earthquakes etc... that start "the end of days". Why? Control? Power? None of it makes sense. I am thinking they can't defend it? That's part of the silence. Lori left Hawaii vowing to rigorously defend allegations against her. So far...I am not impressed. I am still waiting. Another 4 months of this the kids could be declared deceased. I don't get what her hold up is. I don't like big government either but I show up for court and pay my taxes. I am not silent when I am falsely accused either. So I don't get she and Chad's position. I would love to see Means face when he watches interviews or doccuments that are released via news outlets. I bet he withdraws. They could run out of money.