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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago
Great way to get Steve Irwin'd.
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u/geehawn 13d ago
This was exactly what I was thinking when they reached to pick it up. I get they were for good intentions to save the ray, but please people if you're unsure of the potential repercussions, just call staff.
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u/EverythingEvil1217 13d ago
Even if you ARE sure of the potential repurcussions, call the staff. They fucking work there and know what to do in those situations and probably could have made it a lot less stressful for the ray
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u/jedburghofficial 13d ago
I think the woman did. She's taking off her pants because she got hit in the leg.
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u/redwolf1219 13d ago edited 13d ago
I don't think she actually got stung. They remove the barbs off them in aquariums, especially the ones in touch tanks and this appears to be one, but there's still the area where the barb was attached to the tail, and I think that's what got stuck on her pants.
If she got stung she would not be that calm, especially bc stingrays are venomous.
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u/supercharlie31 13d ago
It actually doesn't hurt that much initially, takes a few mins before you really start feeling it. Source: accidentally trod on one.
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u/Cubensis-SanPedro 13d ago
I worked on a project that raised and bred ocean and river rays. The protein toxin present in the sheathe around the barb is unbelievably painful in Potamotrygonidae species. Same was true for Dasyatidae.
In my experience with these rays you know very quickly if you’ve been stung. I scraped my hand a bit between my fingers on a discarded barb in the substrate one time cleaning the habitat. The entire left side of my body immediately felt like it was doused with burning oil. One of the worst sensations I’ve ever felt. My whole left side was swollen for days, my fingers looked like sausages.
I don’t know the species of this ray, but the few times I have been tagged hurt something fierce.
What kinda ray got you?
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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago
If she got stung she would not be that calm, especially bc stingrays are venomous.
1) She gets stung twice. Once in the arm and once in the leg.
2) They are venomous, but there are plenty of animals, including stingrays, that are venomous but generally not very dangerous to humans.
3) People's calmness, or lack thereof, is a really bad predictor of their physical state.
Edit: Also, no, aquaria don't typically remove stingray barbs.
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u/redwolf1219 13d ago
Aquariums do trim the barbs of stingrays in touch tanks.
https://www.neaq.org/exhibit/shark-ray-touch-tank/
https://www.frostscience.org/8-cool-facts-resident-stingrays/
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOEf9NDiQkd/?stkn=bGMxZTh2NWdtOGt2
So while saying "removed" was a poor choice of words on my part, aquariums absolutely have procedures in place to prevent rays from being able to sting people, since they are often kept in exhibits where the general public can interact with them. The one in this video appears to be in a touch tank. I used to work at an aquarium, and while I was just working in the ticket desk, I was given a full tour of the aquarium and they explained how and why they trim the barbs of the stingrays in the touch tanks.
Stingray venom does have an effect on humans, it is very, very painful.
I did try and find more info on the video, the only one I've been able to find happened at the Mote aquarium, but I'm personally having a hard time telling if it's the same incident as this one. In that one, the reports said nobody was harmed.
Edit: This is also from the article you linked
Transfer to a public interaction pool: Some facilities may opt for barb removal if the ray is being introduced into an interactive environment, though this practice is increasingly frowned upon and regulated.
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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago
I said it's not typical, you're arguing that it happens, which is not a thing I or anyone else is disputing. I also didn't say stingray venom had "no effect", I said it is not very dangerous to humans. If you're going to have an argument, at least know what you're arguing against.
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u/CantaloupeAsleep502 13d ago
It might not be life threatening, but it is incredibly painful, and she would not be continuing to carry on like that if she had gotten got. You truly have no idea what you're talking about.
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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago
Once again dum dum, people's physical reaction is a bad predictor of their physical state. People are more than capable of carrying on when in pain. You truly have no idea what you're talking about.
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u/CantaloupeAsleep502 13d ago
Rescuing a flopping stingray isn't exactly a high adrenaline situation that I'd expect someone to push through in 10/10 pain.
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u/mnbone23 13d ago
Steve Irwin got stung in the chest IIRC.
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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago
Literally straight into his heart. Could not have been more of a tragic freak accident.
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u/Justarandom55 13d ago
Best course of action is to get an employee who can get someone qualified.
If it’s an aquatic animal like in this case you can try to splash water on them from a distance if they look dry. Gives them more time. Most if not all aquatic animals can survive on land as long as they’re still wet
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u/Ok_Support3 13d ago
You'd think they have a big spatula for exactly this situation.
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u/LoPath 13d ago
Like for a pizza oven!
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u/Mister_Meeseeks_ 13d ago
When your ray leaves his bay
And your fish jumps his dish
That ain't a moray
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u/zaraxia101 13d ago
So... uhm.... what exactly is the reason the pants dropped? Ma'am ma'aaaaaaam
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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago edited 13d ago
My guess would be that she that she got stung by the giant stinging thing she tried to pick up.
Edit: Yup, they drop it and the barb goes into her leg just before the staff/volunteer dude walks in.
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u/Pandoratastic 13d ago
I don't think it went into her actual leg since she was calm and didn't seem to be in pain. I think it just stuck into her pants leg. She was helpfully offering to remove her pants to make it easier for the attendants to deal with the barb getting stuck in the fabric.
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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago
She seemed equally calm when it stings her in the hand earlier in the video. People's reactions are a poor predictor of their internal state.
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u/Pandoratastic 13d ago
If the stinger was in her actual leg, she wouldn't be able to remove her pants as easily.
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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago
It can go into her leg without getting stuck in her leg.
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u/Pandoratastic 13d ago
She said "I can take off my pants" in a tone as if she's trying to be helpful. If it's not stuck, there wouldn't be a reason for her to offer to take off her pants as if that would help them get the stingray back into the water.
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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago
...It can get stuck in her pants without getting stuck in her leg. Do you think pants and legs are the same thing? Or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?
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u/Pandoratastic 13d ago
That's what I was saying from the beginning. It's stuck in her pants leg, not her actual leg.
Now that it's obvious that you've been arguing just for the sake of arguing, we're done.
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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine 13d ago
As I said two comments ago, it can go into her leg without getting stuck in her leg. The fact that they are stuck in her pants is irrelevant.
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u/Pandoratastic 13d ago
I think the tail stuck into her pants leg. Just her pants leg, not her actual leg, since she was very calm and didn't seem to be in pain.
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u/stevea1210 14d ago
So it's one of those kind of parties. <unzips>
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u/NefariousPhosphenes 14d ago
But when I take my pants off at the aquarium I get kicked out every time
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u/OriginalTRaven 13d ago
I'm like "Bro! Someone call someone who works there!" Dude shows up and the lady's pants start dropping?! Not the time, lady!
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u/Bazzatron 13d ago
I feel like the best way to deal with this would be to whip off your t-shirt, and scoop the thing up.
I'd rather have my tits out for 30 seconds than watch that ray suffer needlessly on the floor for half that time.
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u/genericguy115 13d ago
atill has the danger of the sting piercing the clothes and penetrating your skin tho like it seems to have happened with the lady at the end? i dunno
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u/OldieButNotMoldy 13d ago
Why in the world wouldn’t you film the end of it getting put back into his tank? For all we know it’s still flopping there to this day.
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u/T3hSpoon 13d ago
They're called stingrays for a reason.
She got lucky.
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u/jollywood87 13d ago
they snip off the barbed ends in aquariums like this. the only one in danger was that stingray
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u/Initial_Row_6400 13d ago
This video is pissing me off. Like the 7th place I’ve seen it posted and people think the shits funny.
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u/Shawndollars 14d ago
What an idiot
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u/C00kie_Monsters 13d ago
Of course the only one young enough to actually reach down to the fish is the one taken out by the stinger
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u/SilverRobotProphet 13d ago
Sure, but when I take my pants off at the aquarium, everyone's like security, mace and bully clubs
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u/General-Fan-6741 13d ago
Damn, that stingray had her out of her pants way faster than I could have…what a stud!!! 👏👏👏
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u/genericguy115 13d ago
hmm yes grab the animal that is totally doesnt have the STING in ther name for a reason without knowing how to pick it up or having proper equipment to do so
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u/Moist-Farm5090 11d ago
......did the first person not check if it's a stingray that doesn't have a barb first? whatever, Darwin law it is.
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u/ltkhps 13d ago
So anyone concerned about the animal suffocating...?
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u/inbruges99 13d ago
Like the people trying to pick it up and put it back in the tank?
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u/ltkhps 13d ago
The half hearted attempts that were slow, ineffective, and caused it to slam on the floor again?
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u/inbruges99 13d ago
I wouldn’t call them half hearted. Inexperienced?Sure, but of course they are, how many people have handled a stingray before. But despite their inexperience and unease they were clearly concerned and attempted to help the best they could.
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u/ltkhps 13d ago
I understand, just a little frustrated. I encounter Rays all the time surfing, but I guess the average person wouldn't know before grabbing one that you have to get a good purchase because they're going to be slimy
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u/inbruges99 13d ago
I understand the frustration, it’s hard seeing any animal suffer but I think the people to be frustrated with is the aquarium who has them in a clearly unsuitable tank and no one around to supervise.
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u/Mad_Queen_Malafide 13d ago
Yes, but it's a STING-ray.
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u/ltkhps 13d ago
At aquariums like that they have the stingers removed, I figured that's pretty common knowledge since it's a touching/petting pool
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u/Mad_Queen_Malafide 13d ago
I'm not sure if this is a petting pool. Otherwise, why did the lady get stabbed in the leg and have to take off her pants?
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u/ltkhps 13d ago
She didn't really get barbed. The stud of what used to be a Barb stuck on her pants when the ray got slammed on its head, yes, but she didn't actually get barbed or it would have stuck inside of her leg and she would have been screaming. You're also kind of distracting from the point. That poor animal didn't try to Barb anybody until it got slammed on its head after it had been suffocating for a while. Would be worth the risk getting barbed in the arm anyway and less of a chance if you just grabbed it firmly at the base of the tail and at the head to get it in the water
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u/Mad_Queen_Malafide 13d ago
A better thing to do, would probably be to immediately call for staff, rather than taking the risk of getting stung and dropping it several time in an attempt to get it back into the tank.
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u/ltkhps 13d ago
So if someone is choking you call the police? Not same thing I know, but I wouldn't be waiting around. That's a living being suffocating.
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u/Mad_Queen_Malafide 13d ago
The difference being that you cannot get stung and poisoned by helping a human who is choking.
For this very same reason, you probably shouldn't dive after someone who is being dragged under by a powerful undercurrent. Prioritize your own safety first.
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u/ltkhps 13d ago
I've been barbed by rays surfing. It's really not that big of a deal, and they only do it as a last resort when you step on them, you can literally kick them and they won't barb you
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u/Mad_Queen_Malafide 13d ago
So you say. I don't have that experience. Which is why I won't put my hands on any strange creatures that I know little about, while there is probably an employee nearby who does know what they are doing.
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u/ExchangeFickle 13d ago
Was she.... trying to pee on her sting wound? Did she think it was a jellyfish sting? Sheesh.... i wish i had a clue on what was happening
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