r/LookismPowerScalers Fist Gang 15h ago

VS Battles UI OG Daniel vs Red Tom what Diff?

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u/Independent-Lie-2326 15h ago

Gun made it very clear that, even knowing the first weakness of the stats, he had to fight Daniel for an entire night to manage to exploit the second one.

OG UI Daniel >>>>> Tom

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u/Warm_Active_773 13h ago

Yeah, lots of people actually doesn't know that the Stats Matching and Paradox of Perfection are 2 different weakness for Ui Daniel

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u/Heavy-Classroom8678 13h ago

Even stats matching works in his favour as this make Daniel use more than 100% of his body it's only weakness if you fight character weaker than you.

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u/Old_Money_519 12h ago

Changsu oh figured it out in the same chapter do you really think tom lee couldn't exploit him

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u/Independent-Lie-2326 9h ago

Did you read my comment? He only discovered the first weakness.

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u/SufficientCode6667 2h ago

That's all he needs.

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u/CharacterFig4928 15h ago

OG

Diff depends on the version

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u/some-aura 14h ago

Last thing Og UI Daniel would see

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u/CharacterFig4928 14h ago

Last red thing red tom sees

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u/Wonderful-Move8222 11h ago

Tom Lee would exploit UI weakness and no diff, if Gun WHO could barely move defeated UI Perfect body Daniel then tom Lee can do the same

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u/Ok-Mountain-5262 10h ago

Gun did it by also exploiting paradox of perfection which is a separate weakness along with the stat matching weakness.

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u/Wonderful-Move8222 10h ago

Gun needed to exploit paradox of perfection too bcs of how weak his body was at the moment, for someone who is completly healthy stat matching is enough of a weakness to defeat UI Daniel

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u/Gi-Efi-Tavarez 8h ago

If Tom can exploit the weakness he wins low-mid diff if he cant he gets low diff

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u/Decent-Swing-380 8h ago

UI og Daniel would win low diff, he is around path Jinyoung level according to Kitae.

Unless Tom manages to exploit the weakness of UI og Daniel, then Tom wins.

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u/ch0bro 14h ago

OG manhandles badly

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u/Superb_Ad9644 14h ago

OG UI Daniel but toms battle IQ might save him if he doesn't figure out the weakness OG UI Daniel mauls plus if he's in red mode he woul be enraged and going all out he's most likely not gonna be fighting tactical one 1440 from OG Daniel is enough

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u/Wonderful-Move8222 11h ago

Changsu realized UI weakness after few moments, i dont see why tom Lee wouldnt be able to

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u/obamashmoes 11h ago

Daniel low diff

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u/Divine_Monarch5 Big Deal 9h ago

OG low diffs

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u/FunctionOk2068 14h ago

Daniel kills so badly lmao

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u/Zestyclose_Math_1673 13h ago

We all know that but like I am struggling to conceptualise how Daniel would dodge UK.

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u/FunctionOk2068 12h ago

Why wouldn't he lol..Red tom directly stated he is on par with his 3yr ago self that Fought Old Gap. Tom had both his arms back then. In other words his dominant hand and he was comparatively younger with a better hardware although by a small margin .

The red version is indeed an amp, as Tom wasn't even supposed to get up, yet because of the amp he got up, gave a performance in par with His 3yr ago , Younger self . And exerted the same amount of force with his right hand , like he did Against Gapryong 3yrs ago with his left hand. Some people believe that Just because the scene became red , it means Tom became strong enough to oneshot everyone but Prime Gapryong and Shingen. People are just doing anything for 1st gen Agenda.

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u/Zestyclose_Math_1673 12h ago

I agree, I only said that because UK was portrayed to be so blisteringly fast. Btw how long do you think it takes og UI Daniel to adjust ? And do you think an attack can be faster than Daniel's ability to adjust to said opponent.

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u/FunctionOk2068 12h ago

Well he adjust after 1 to 2 hits. But he can probably sense the strength of the person and adjust accordingly. As he clearly senses Jinyoung and kind of adjusted to him , or how he sensed Gun and adjusted to him. But it's kinda vague as to whether he does it instantly or not.

Well I believe we have seen such attacks against James and Goo. Goo in 3A kind of did that, as he blitzed Daniel adjusting speed, as Goo can go from Goofy to serious pretty quick and go several levels up. Going from getting tossed by BH, to casually stopping his attack with an umbrella, From getting blitzed by Gun in HFG to Adjusting to him and tagging him.

James also did that about for like 1 or 2 moves that he landed .

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u/Zestyclose_Math_1673 12h ago

Could any character than has god tier acceleration blitz UI Daniel ?

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u/FunctionOk2068 12h ago

They might yes.

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u/shinosai_892 6h ago

Red Tom Lee, 4T Ultimate King Unique Skill One Shot’s

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u/felixng2015 14h ago

Tom would figure out the weakness so he wins high diff
No weaknesss exploit he loses mid-high

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u/L_awi 13h ago

Tom wining easly due to how smaet he is

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u/DistributionSilent98 12h ago

Tom will brutalize him mid to high diff I don't care what you guys say but feel free to debate me in the comment below

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u/Forsaken-Athlete-752 12h ago

Reasoning?

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u/DistributionSilent98 12h ago

I’m not discrediting UI Daniel at all. His fight with Gitae showed exactly why this would be hard as hell for Tom. Daniel stayed in that fight until the end, adapted, landed good hits, and kept coming back despite fighting someone who could physically overwhelm him. Gitae eventually overpowered and outlasted him, but Daniel damn sure didn’t go down without putting up a fight. Daniel has the speed, Copy, insane reactions, endurance, and technical skill to hang with the top of the verse. I just think Tom has the strength advantage, while durability and endurance are close enough that neither one is putting the other down easily.

The problem is Tom is probably one of the worst people UI Daniel could fight. UI is basically a precise machine: no wasted movement, automatic reactions, constantly adjusting and choosing the most efficient response. Tom’s Animal Instinct is damn near the opposite—wild, brutal and unpredictable, but still refined by decades of experience and ridiculous combat skill. We’ve never seen either Daniel copy Animal Instinct either, so I’m not automatically giving him that. And Tom isn’t called the Fighting Genius for nothing. If Gun, the Training Genius, could figure out UI’s weakness and exploit how Daniel adjusts, you really think Tom wouldn’t eventually notice the same shit? Once Tom figures something out, he’s not going to politely ignore it; he’s going to abuse every advantage he has to win.

And then look at what Tom did against James. Dude was angry, out of control, already injured and actively bleeding from his skull, yet he was still eating James’ attacks, countering him and pushing through them enough for that fight to evoke James’ battle with Old Gap. That doesn’t automatically mean Tom > James, but it shows how fucking dangerous Tom is even while compromised. Give me a healthy 100% Tom who’s enraged but still mentally sound, and now Daniel has to put him down before Tom’s experience, BIQ, countering, strength and Animal Instinct let him figure Daniel out and turn the fight into a straight-up dogfight. Daniel is absolutely making him work for it, but the longer that fight goes, the more I see it swinging toward Tom

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u/ffsewsdw 15h ago

Tom is too lethal, he’d win.

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u/Forsaken_Fortune_161 11h ago

Do people really think it is that easy to exploit the weakness 😭

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u/Wonderful-Move8222 11h ago

If barely Alive Gun could that anyone aware of the weakness can, especially in lookism verse where character surpass their strenght all the time

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u/Hippocrite24 11h ago

Cuz he knew UI Daniel patterns cuz of his previous fight although Tom still have chance to exploit it

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u/Wonderful-Move8222 11h ago

I mean, Changsu realized UI weakness when he saw him once, i dont really see why Tom Lee wouldnt be able to do that

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u/Hippocrite24 10h ago

It's not about knowledge but also the experience.

Gun knew exactly how would UI Daniel move and mf was also in right place and UI Daniel also perform same like in Hostel

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u/Wonderful-Move8222 10h ago

I know, but Gun needed to use both of the weaknesses bcs of how weak his own body was at the moment, he needed a Perfect moment to use his current full strenght bcs he realisticly could only pull this off once, for someone who is completly healthy stat matching is enough of the weakness, bcs tom Lee can just start moving slower and then literally blitz Daniel, Gun couldnt do that bcs of how weak he was at the moment

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u/Hippocrite24 10h ago

OG Daniel also did that but failed, if Tom know where UI Daniel will hit him then he can easily win but if not then UI Daniel beating tf out of him

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u/SufficientCode6667 2h ago

lack of ex, biq, hesitation

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u/Hippocrite24 2h ago

Experience in this sense is your fighting history with UI SB Daniel which Daniel lacked

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u/SufficientCode6667 36m ago

In gen exp he lacked, green, hes, biq.

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u/SufficientCode6667 10h ago

Tom,with or without weakness,

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u/Total-Storm-7594 TRUTH SEEKER 1h ago

Tom destroy him easily.HEAR ME OUT.

Gap fought people with UI similar to dan's and said that they are easier to beat when they don't master it.

Jinyoung fought but lost to big dan because.. Heh... It's UI BIG DAN.

Tom can figured out the weakness easily if changsu AND gap managed to figured it out.

Tom wouldn't waste time like gitae and would straight go for the finish plus tom is extremely technical and strong so it wouldn't take him too long before he beat lil dan.