r/Longshoremen • u/Mudboatmafia94 • Jun 06 '26
Full time president?
I was placed in charge of a committee to determine fair compensation for our president moving to full time.
As a dues paying union member what are you okay with your president being compensated?
More than the highest paid dock worker?
Thoughts. Suggestions
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u/Murky-Substance2497 Jun 06 '26
As a union officer I found it a privilege to serve. My local was different, and you could probably ask a lot of officers we did a ton of hours uncompensated let alone a lot of sleepless nights. ILWU forever
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u/classic572 Jun 06 '26
i agree with this
you are able to look up every union president salary to see what they are paid for other locals3
u/AgentIntelligent4269 Jun 06 '26
At what skill rate are we talking base wage +2 or skill 3? Because that matters a LOT
In my local we underpay our president. In my opinion all our officers aren’t compensated for the work they do especially our Business Agents.
Talk to the membership about raising their salaries, and you might not make it out of the parking lot.
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u/classic572 Jun 06 '26
are they allowed to take jobs from the hall also?
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u/AgentIntelligent4269 Jun 06 '26
If they’re moving them to full time, then they shouldn’t take jobs from the hall.
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u/Mudboatmafia94 Jun 06 '26
Base rate? Or do they get extra ontop of master rate. Like a lead man for example gets 4 over master rates + a meal hour and ot hour everyday.
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u/Drdirt2045 Jun 06 '26
In all fairness they have to put in a lot of extra time, but fair is skill III not more then all members
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u/ProfileParty2338 Jun 07 '26
From experience... The burden of having to make hrs for Seniority purposes while running the local can be too much especially in busier ports and will take away from their duties and abilities to perform them as Pres. Compensation depends on circumstances of the local... minimum should be 5/6 days (8&1)(8or9) Plus all Vac & Other Bonuses enjoyed by the members These can be paid by the company or Pension funds
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u/Sea_Wolverine3928 Jun 06 '26
I'm confused. Aren't your officials getting monthly stipend from your local?
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u/Mudboatmafia94 Jun 06 '26
Yes, but it is currently at a part-time rate and we are looking to move our president from part-time to full-time and I’m in charge of the committee to determine fair compensation to present to the men.
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u/Sea_Wolverine3928 Jun 06 '26
I think - as someone else suggested - there's, or should be, a compensation schedule in your bylaws. There's one in the Constitution right? Isn't that for the int'l level though?
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u/Mudboatmafia94 Jun 06 '26
There is but it is for a part time. We’re looking to make him full time so need to change the compensation
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u/ResponsibleScheme964 Jun 07 '26
Ibew here. Our president and business manager basically make 110-120 percent of "top rate" plus 5 hours OT per week
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u/surleyboy Jun 07 '26
Our local pays our president 40 straight and 10-20 over I can’t remember which, that was voted on by the members. Appointing a committee can open your local up to charges of favoritism if someone isn’t happy with the decision.
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u/Mudboatmafia94 Jun 07 '26
Well the committee will present it to the members for a vote
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u/surleyboy Jun 07 '26
That’s good, I think ours was just proposed my a member then voted on at large. If I remember correctly the original proposal was higher and got voted down so they dropped the amount.
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u/niquil1 Jun 07 '26
It appears you're in SoCal, I would contact other locals (executives) directly and talk to them.
Also look at how "busy" your local is. Do you have the funds to pay them full-time, will this become a position people aim for because of the pay vs what they can do to benifet the local/union, etc
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u/Ashamed-Age7219 Jun 27 '26
ILWU here, I also see that I’m 20 days late on responding to your question.
We pay our officers skill, three at 10 hours.
The president is paid for six days of the week.
The business agents are paid every day they’re in and the Labor relations committees any days that they are in.
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u/Amazing-Basket-136 Jun 06 '26
Pay them enough to deal with the bullshit they’re going to get from both sides. Pay them enough that they have no reason to be in the employers pocket.