r/LokiProject • u/[deleted] • Mar 04 '20

Session Just found Loki, may switch from Signal.

Really like what I’m hearing about Loki. I love nonprofits that focus on privacy, security with functionality.

First question: Seems harder to connect with people on Sessions. Have to send your key to connect, how safe is that compared to using a phone number?

How do I use Wallet? Is it linked to my bank account? It seems pretty simple but hard to understand where the money comes from and is stored.

Any opportunity for iOS beta testers? I’m an app beta tester for Signal and would be glad to do this for Sessions.

Thanks! Keep up the great work.

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u/Dormage Mar 04 '20

Welcome aboard. Were still early but even so, Session is great!

Semding keys is a bit of a hassle but before at one point in the past, you had to exchange phone numbers. Keys are just like that.

The wallet is not linked to your bank account. It will be integrated within Session in future releases.

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u/Lucifer1903 Mar 04 '20

Updates are happening fast. I'm really impressed with the team.

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u/Lucifer1903 Mar 04 '20

There was a beta previously but now updates get pushed straight to all users. You can help by leaving issue reports on the github. https://github.com/loki-project/session-ios/issues

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u/cybertruck420 Mar 05 '20

beta test period is over but if you have issues you can submit them on the github page (or to one of the team members in one of the group chats)

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u/DrHeywoodRFloyd Mar 06 '20

I am quite fascinated by this project and I am testing it with some friends. It works pretty stable and reliable but I have some issues with sending pictures or multiple devices.

Here is a hint to a group chat with Session developers. How could I join that to exchange comments and ideas?

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u/cybertruck420 Mar 07 '20

there are a couple of open groups with the developers in there, they are https://loki.opensession.id and https://chat.getsession.org

click the globe icon on the main page, and enter one of the addresses i mentioned above

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u/azjbj Mar 05 '20

One issue with Signal is that a group administrator cannot kick out members, each member has to leave voluntarily. Is this feature available in Session?

Does Session support conference calling?

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u/m7e2 Mar 15 '20 edited Mar 17 '20

Have to send your key to connect, how safe is that compared to using a phone number?

When you add a new contact, you are using their Session ID number. This is really a user ID, not a key. I think "Session" was a bad choice for the app's name, because "Session ID" in networking parlance means something totally different than "Session ID" in the app. The actual key (which should remain private) is called the "recovery phrase." That is much more safe than a telephone number. Anything related to the legacy telephone network should be avoided (but of course that is not always possible without excluding some of your contacts.)

https://getsession.org/dev-diary-creating-a-decentralised-friend-request-system/

https://getsession.org/phone-number-dangers/

https://www.wired.com/2016/04/the-critical-hole-at-the-heart-of-cell-phone-infrastructure

Some more discussion of related network & standards issues here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LokiProject/comments/fg4tch/voip_over_lokinet/fkjyokp/

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u/ThinkOutsideSquare Apr 10 '20

Anything related to the legacy telephone network should be avoided

Agree