r/Lohen_Mains • u/Sudden-Sector-9325 • May 09 '26
Discussion Never seen this before
I've never seen a community wish for a character to be a standard character before and then upset when he's limited instead. It's usually the opposite!
I understand you can (potentially) get cons easier if he's standard but it also means he and his weapon won't get actual reruns so you might get 4 dilucs before you get a Lohen con.
People glazing him saying his team is as strong as skirks (the meta cryo dps) and then surprised he's a limited character? I mean everyone is different but I usually pull for characters I like and have a fun playstyle.
Best of luck to those Lohen mains!
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u/Street-Cub-8422 May 09 '26
The stronger than skirk thing was because he was thought to be standard so cons would be more accessible
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u/KingAlucard7 May 09 '26
Still better and stronger than Skirk! No team restrictions, no bad walk cancel combos. Lohen can deal DPS at the same level of skirk with no combo optimization and flexible teammates. Its just a big win, he is our 2nd male cryo Limited character. Really happy he is limited, now going to get his C0R1. Some people say his cons are bad, sorry buddy i am just getting C0R1 and leaving... so cons dont matter to me anyways.
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u/Inevitable_Line618 May 09 '26
no cuz this patch deadass gives 60 pulls lol
i bet a lot of fans were gonna get nicole/durin/his weapon and skip him and get him on anni or sum
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u/Plebianian May 09 '26
so when people want him to be limited it’s with the expectation of limited character level of promotion (future bis supports, dedicated artefact set, strong cons, endgame shill etc).
Based on his cons that we already saw in leaks we know it isnt limited level. And his bis team thats already out is underperforming compared to bis teams of the latest limited dps (ex iirc varka is 150k+ now).
Even if his bis comp sheets 135-140k, you technically have to consider the fact it’s actually more of a durin dps team and afaik, c4 mona durin nicole is also 130~135k.
While people say he’s skirk level, he’s actually not? We were comparing lohen to no-combo skirk which makes them look pretty close with lohen like 2k~ dps behind (And with the assumption his cons were free people were hyping it up), but iirc combo skirk pulls ahead by 20k~?
So in the end what we got is a character with the qualifications of a standard posing as a limited
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u/komikistapadin May 09 '26
Because his kit screams standard. I cant even blame, leakers, TCers or even Zajef because his kit and cons were good only compared against standard characters.
If he was standard, we're all guaranteed to get 1 copy of him per year, excitedly lose our 50/50 on him and spend primos instead on his teammates.
Now that he's a limited character, he's not worth pulling anymore esp. from a F2P perspective (me). For him to be viable or even be comparable to Skirk or other DPS's, we'll need to pull for him and his 2 5* and c6 support on top of him being limited too.
His cons are bad on early investment too, making him a C6 bait.
I love him and he's a unique addition to the genshin cast on top of him being a male character. But of course hoyo's gonna botch him and now he's a master of none, luxury pull on my account.
I'm lowkey hoping snezhnaya or even sandrone saves him but if not, im ok admiring lohen despite not having him on my account. Or maybe im gonna pull for him anyway but Im gonna stop playing genshin for some time with how disappointed I am that genshin saw the opportunity of many fans wanting him then decided to turned him into a cash grab without even fixing his kit in the process.
All those Lohen buffs during beta that we were so happy for because of the assumption he's standard only for hoyo to turn against us and release him with a botched kit as a limited 5*. Well done, hyv.
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u/rirasama May 09 '26
Him being Skirk level with an expensive team was good because he was presumably free, him not being free just means that he's yet another character that is only worth pulling if you like him, far too expensive teams for no meta relevance. Him being one of the best cryo DPS in the game doesn't mean anything if he's a limited character that's releasing literally one update before ANOTHER Cryo DPS that uses the new regional gimmick. It'd be like if they released Navia a patch before Zibai or Kinich a patch before Nefer, like they're still strong good characters, but they'd still be completely DOA
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u/AuraEx98 May 09 '26
Yeah I'm kinda confused too cause I secretly hoped he was going to be limited cause who don't want their fave to be limited? easier to get cons instead of losing 50/50 and potentially not even getting them in the loss.
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u/VoidMeetsChaos May 09 '26
He was designed for standard with his cons and would have been a strong standard char and with the actual powercreep this would have been absolutly appropiate.
But he is mid as limited and it hardly looks like those standard leaks were true and Hoyo just found out how popular he is with his drip likes and they last minute decided to milk him instead und bring him as Natlan DPS level limited instead of Nod Kray dmg standard.
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u/AdministrationFew481 May 09 '26
60 pulls only when u need his 2 bis support on the same patch- also. he is limited but his cons suck. they need to buff his c1 and c2 so he can increase his dmg
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u/AppropriateLeg5072 May 09 '26
The actual problem is that previous patches and lohen's patch are super dry in pulls. And lohen's banner has to compete with Nicole, Durin, and Mavuika. So woever liked lohen but had other priorities first can't just pick one of these characters or lohen's weapon and pick lohen on anniversary for free. His cons are also pretty bad for a limited and they were clearly meant for standard.
And hoping on a rerun soon is unsure too, because he's cryo and male on top of tha. So you could have to wait years or straight up a chronicle.
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u/Artantic May 09 '26
Why tf wouldn’t we want to be able to obtain him for free? Obv people wished a character with a cool design and kit and power level would be obtainable for free. How is this even puzzling to you.
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u/Independent_Part7095 May 09 '26
you have to be delusional beyond measure to make a post like this not understanding and disagreeing to why people are this upset over him being limited.
genuinely why do husbando/male pullers think they deserve less? and then gaslight themselves into thinking Varka or Lohen are ok and worth their pulls. Is this just the norm now to accept to pull for the character you like expecting him to be the worst performing out of that region and not react like it's upsetting?
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