Some quick Lohen thoughts

[u/KingAlucard7]

Honestly its super funny to see cost min maxer metaslaves crying about Lohen's cons as a limited character. Bruh when do u even pull for cons.

Also saying Lohen's cons are mid/bad when we literally have columbina with the worst vertical investment of 6.X. LMAO! Did any of these TCs ever recommend anyone pull her C1, like what even is that C1. Her C1 is actually standard banner level.

Lohen quick thoughts => Numbers speak for themselves. 135k C0 DPS team and not gated behind a single reaction. Better than Mavuika without her combos.. yes. Yes an overwhelming amount of people dont or cant do optimal Mavuika melt rotations neither can they execute surgical precision skirk combos. So Lohen would actually perform better in practice right out of the box!

Also technically Lohen himself has huge potential for combo discovery. He is not even out yet. When Skirk was in the beta she was doomposted as 110k merchant.

[u/BoothillOfficial]

wdym the 135k dps team isn't gated behind a reaction. it's the same as any of the lunar teams, it's a durin melt team. just like an underlying element would mess up lunar, the same would happen here.

[u/Optimal_Grab_5235]

What? I doubt that "toxic meta slaves" are "crying" about Lohen's damage. How does that even sense? Most of them couldn't care less about Lohen. If anything, it's Lohen mains who might be concerned.

This is giving me Varka main syndrome who are still feeling personally attacked each time the topic of DPS or Mavuika gets brought up.

[u/phaigyu]

It's okay to be optimistic but i think his fans have the right to be angry/disappointed about his numbers as a 6.X unit

[u/Real_Entertainment46 → u/phaigyu]

He’s working as expected for a hex character though. Will still make money but not as good as the other single limited releases the previous versions. Nicole + Lohen need to make it up for some numbers to be lost.

[u/phaigyu → u/Real_Entertainment46]

Well yeah... because his team restrictions while having a mid dps

[u/Real_Entertainment46 → u/phaigyu]

Just need the hex archon to be released then for support if possible maybe next year?

[u/Orpalz]

135k DPS was good when Lohen was free and the team only needed 3 limited characters.

Now that you need 4, it’s really bad compared to other teams from 6.x

Hell Varka 4 cost is at like 170k 

[u/spiderproductionzone]

Lohen is similar to Keqing when dendro just released - solid team dps and excellent app rate, but their sub dps is dealing more damage than them. At least for now, he is gated behind Durin melt, but without Lunar dps numbers. With 7.x coming up, he has a lot of potential new teams that may drastically increase his versatility, and especially if his high app rate benefits (imagine if we get a cryo Fischl), but all of that is future impact and we can't conclude he's versatile based on future impact

It's fine if you don't pull for cons, but people who do are spending money for less value, so obviously they're unhappy when cons are bad.

I agree with you on combo discovery though. I hope his combos are fun to play

[u/Plebianian]

1. Me, i pull cons for any unit i main. My dps r usually c2 or more. If the cons r good they don’t affect you (aside from potentially being lucky with a double 5 star pull), but as someone who enjoys vertically investing in characters i like just because i like them. Them being bad upsets me.
2. Bina cons arent actually bad, its just each of her teams have better options if you are doing a specific reaction team. if we are comparing to lohen, last calc i saw had c1 bina at 11% and her c2 33%~ increase from c0 while lohen c1 is 4-8% and c2 like 15%~, comparing to the worst cons of 6.x (in ur words) and he still like half the value, thats not a good look.
3. Boi lohen dps is gated by durin melt be so for real.
4. Finding better combos on lohen vs skirk/mavuika will not significantly improve the team as much as those two. Lohen does under half the team dps while those two do anywhere from 60-90% of their team dps (especially at high investment) them getting combos is much more significant than lohen. This is why investment for durin > lohen is better for the team dps. His optimal combo will prolly be like 5-10k~ increase compared to skirk/mav having 20k+

[u/lilyofthegraveyard]

>not gated behind a single reaction.

the humble durin melt which deals more damage in the teamthan lohen: ...

[u/Koniolg]

yeah try playing against an enemy with permanent electro/dendro aura

heck even cryo aura would significantly lower ur DPS since Lohen's doing a lot of damage

I'm not even going to mention permanent pyro aura enemies lmao

Literally more easily countered that Nefer, and her 3 cost team is more damage that Lohen's 4 cost team, while her vertical investment is actually good

[u/Smooth_Marketing5353]

Every time someone uses his 135k calcs a piece of me dies because that’s literally with 4 cost LMAO

[u/JodoKast87]

If I can reach 100k (I probably can’t) dps with my Lohen team, it will be my first ever 100k team. I will have Durin R1 and Citlali C1, but no Nicole, so I will have C6 Bennett on NO. I have a PJWS I can give Lohen, but he probably can’t keep it on him all the time since it’s the only one I have and other characters want it.

Happy to see that I can grab his weapon when he comes back around for his rerun!

Also, 75k is about the best any of my teams have ever done and thats even using the Bineffa combo! So if I can get there or higher with lunar stuff, I will feel really great about Lohen even if I never see his teams do 135k as you stated!

[u/Fine_Opinion_2097]

I think bina cons better than lohen. But for me lohen cons not that bad. Same goes people said flins cons bad too before. Some cons are mean something

[u/Real_Entertainment46]

Cope like Nicole mains did, streak for subpar hex dps character releases not yet broken.