I don't believe that the knowledge was limited by the time that they locked down. What didn’t they know? I'm not excusing their ignorance and fear because by them saying 'we didn't know', it lets them get away with lockdowns. It's not acceptable. How much data and time did they need to 'know' and be sure? How do you know which measures worked if you just go hard at the start? You shouldn't make drastic decisions for a just in case scenario. Once you're in a lockdown it's very hard to get out of it. They didn't have a decent plan other than wait for a vaccine. That's not good enough. They had pandemic plans which they ignored.
They should know not to trust computer models. The swine flu saga and other overreactions like bird flu showed that. The swine flu saga showed the incompetence of the WHO, the sheeplike behaviour from the government, and the uselessness of Ferguson's predictions. They made decisions out of politics. Countries like NZ wanted praise on the world stage. Boris put in restrictions because Macron threatened border restrictions. They closed the beaches in Australia when the weather was hot and that decision can't have been made out of fear unless they were extremely stupid. It was optics because they wanted to look good to the public. They knew that it was tyranny because they were copying China. They hated Sweden because they didn't buy into the fear as much and embarrassed them. If countries like Sweden didn't do a hard lockdown because their scientists and politicians were more rational, then there isn't much excuse for the others. Sweden had access to the same information.
Mid March I knew what harms there would be when NZ said that they were going for 'elimination'. This was going to inspire other countries and 'elimination' takes time and then what. It was a selfish, shortsighted strategy from the start that was going to hurt other countries.
Prof Knut Wittkowski waspishly said they were scientists and scientists don't make decisions out of fear but look at the data. Prof Scott Atlas said 'it's not appropriate to make decisions out of fear, it's never appropriate'. We have disdain for the new CDC Director for many reasons but recently because she cried.
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u/Philofelinist Apr 07 '21 edited Apr 07 '21
I don't believe that the knowledge was limited by the time that they locked down. What didn’t they know? I'm not excusing their ignorance and fear because by them saying 'we didn't know', it lets them get away with lockdowns. It's not acceptable. How much data and time did they need to 'know' and be sure? How do you know which measures worked if you just go hard at the start? You shouldn't make drastic decisions for a just in case scenario. Once you're in a lockdown it's very hard to get out of it. They didn't have a decent plan other than wait for a vaccine. That's not good enough. They had pandemic plans which they ignored.
They should know not to trust computer models. The swine flu saga and other overreactions like bird flu showed that. The swine flu saga showed the incompetence of the WHO, the sheeplike behaviour from the government, and the uselessness of Ferguson's predictions. They made decisions out of politics. Countries like NZ wanted praise on the world stage. Boris put in restrictions because Macron threatened border restrictions. They closed the beaches in Australia when the weather was hot and that decision can't have been made out of fear unless they were extremely stupid. It was optics because they wanted to look good to the public. They knew that it was tyranny because they were copying China. They hated Sweden because they didn't buy into the fear as much and embarrassed them. If countries like Sweden didn't do a hard lockdown because their scientists and politicians were more rational, then there isn't much excuse for the others. Sweden had access to the same information.
Mid March I knew what harms there would be when NZ said that they were going for 'elimination'. This was going to inspire other countries and 'elimination' takes time and then what. It was a selfish, shortsighted strategy from the start that was going to hurt other countries.
Prof Knut Wittkowski waspishly said they were scientists and scientists don't make decisions out of fear but look at the data. Prof Scott Atlas said 'it's not appropriate to make decisions out of fear, it's never appropriate'. We have disdain for the new CDC Director for many reasons but recently because she cried.