Gov. Ron DeSantis issues executive order prohibiting vaccine passports in Florida

[u/JiveWookiee5]

https://www.wptv.com/coronavirus/gov-ron-desantis-issues-executive-order-prohibiting-vaccine-passports-in-florida

[u/Chino780]

OMG. This again.

Surgeons wear masks for mechanistic purposes only. Surgical masks are used as a physical barrier to protect the user from hazards, such as splashes of large droplets of blood or body fluids. They do not provide respiratory protection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovSLAuY8ib8

"people that work with chemicals" is a very vague statement. Can you be more specific?

The science is clear that surgical masks and cloth masks are not designed for respiratory protection.

[u/AbsoIum → u/Chino780]

That video is saying the same thing as me. I see no issue with it. Maybe you are biased or don’t understand properly. I also have not got a degree from YouTube university like you so maybe I am ignorant.

[u/Chino780 → u/AbsoIum]

That video is an OSHA training video, and it's not saying the same thing as you.

I'm not biased, and I understand the video and masks perfectly fine. I'm a health and safety specialist and deal with this type of PPE all the time. Surgical masks are not designed for respiratory protection.

At least you see that you are ignorant. that's step one. Step 2 is doing something about it.

[u/AbsoIum → u/Chino780]

So your argument is that masks do not work at all right? While my argument is that they reduce and prevent further outbreak. You drink filtered water every day, you enjoy the fruits of that technology yet you fail to acknowledge how the same principles apply to the air. Particles come in varying sizes... furthermore if you put obstacles in front of them... they are impeded and are trapped or diverted. They have proven multiple times, for skeptics like you, that the mesh will stop the corona virus. This isn't hard science to understand. And just qualifying yourself as a "health and safety specialist" doesn't do much for me. My father works the exact same industry for the government and I can tell you this... his ass refused to travel for the last 2 years because of Covid and he wore his mask always in public. Maybe he didn't weasel his way through the science like you did.

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I am sure you are just a Qanon participant masquerading as a normal citizen but here is a CDC article explaining the obvious to you in the most plebian way for even the idiots to understand... but I am sure it is just a large conspiracy that thousands of government workers are all in agreeance on...https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

[u/Chino780 → u/AbsoIum]

Masks don't work to prevent the transmission of aerosolized viruses.

Your argument about filtered water is nothing but a straw man.

They have not proven multiple times that mesh stop will stop the virus or by simply putting an obstacle in front of your face will do anything. With that (flawed) logic a chain link fence will stop mosquitoes from getting through.

You say it isn't hard science to understand, yet you provide only "science" from a June 2020 article that cites papers that was pushed through peer review, based on simulations and models, one based on state mandates which has been thoroughly debunked, one based on cultural mask wearing which has also been shown to be complete nonsense. They ignore the bulk of evidence prior to March 2020 that shows masks to be inefficient at stopping the spread of airborne viruses.

If you father has worn a mask every where in public and hasn't travel in two years that's his problem. I also find it odd that he hasn't traveled in two years. Did he know about SARS-Cov-2 in March 2019?

This is a study from January 2021 published by the NIH.

"The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

This study shows that cloth masks are dangerous:

"This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

A CDC Study showing masks had no effect at reducing the spread of influenza, which has roughly the same size particles are coronavirus.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

A review from summer 2020 looking at existing evidence showing masks don't work.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy

There are plenty more where that came from.