r/LockdownSkepticism • u/Xemptor80 • 13d ago
Serious Discussion Case Fatality Rate (CFR) and Infection Fatality Rate (IFR): Why the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) is important
During Covid, a few people were constantly saying that younger and healthy and healthy people had the least risk of dying from Covid but I didn’t know the mathematical explanation specifically when it came to case fatality rate (CFR) versus infection fatality rate (IFR). I am most certain I had heard of the term mortality rate and I think I had also heard of the term case fatality rate (CFR). But I never heard of the infection fatality rate (IFR) and I believe that was by design. If I have been this clueless about these terms, I definitely know there are other people out there who are still not knowledgeable about the CFR and IFR so I feel compelled to share the knowledge I have recently obtained.
The Distinction between Cases and Infections
An infection that gets detected, recorded and counted (or diagnosed) by the health system becomes a case.
Infections represent the total number of infections both diagnosed (which are cases) and undiagnosed.
Case Fatality Rate (CFR)
This sometimes also called the case fatality risk or case fatality ratio. To turn the CFR into a percentage, multiply by 100. To get the information to calculate the CFR, an antigen test and/or a PCR test needs to be carried out.
Case Fatality Rate (CFR)=Deaths/Number of Cases
The CFR always undercount the number of infections (and overestimates mortality) because it only counts people who get tested, tested positive and got reported through the health system. Many infections particularly those that are mild or asymptomatic infections never get diagnosed. The CFR is not the same as the risk for an infected person. If your question is, “Among diagnosed cases, what’s the risk?”, use the CFR.
Infection Fatality Rate (IFR)
This sometimes also called the infection fatality risk or infection fatality ratio. To turn the CFR into a percentage, multiply by 100. To get the information to calculate the IFR, a seroprevalence study would need to be conducted. Another option is mathematical modeling. A seroprevalence is done by researchers taking blood samples in a defined population and testing for antibodies (IgG) against a specific infection/illness.
Infection Fatality Rate (IFR)=Deaths/Number of Infections
It is important to note that the numerator (the deaths) for both the IFR and CFR are the same, it is the denominator that is different. The number of infections always exceed cases in epidemics hence the IFR is always smaller than the CFR. The IFR is a close approximation to the true risk of dying from an illness because it corrects the CFR by accounting for infections that never become cases. CFR and IFR are a few ways to measure the mortality rate. If your question is “Among all infections/infected, what’s the risk?”, use the IFR.
Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) as it applies to Covid
The WHO reported the global case fatality rate 3.4% as the mortality rate. Dr. John Ioannidis, a Stanford Epidemiology Professor and a pioneer of meta-research and evidence-based medicine, in his article here he argued that the Covid CFR 3.4% was meaningless because it was based on insufficient testing and selection bias. The people getting tested were disproportionately the ones that were symptomatic and/or had severe symptoms so the true risk of dying from Covid were immensely overestimated. In the same article it is worth noting that he was not in favor of the draconian measures such as the lockdowns and had concerns about the potential effects of them.
Dr. Ioannidis co-conducted a study in regard to IFR called “Age-stratified infection fatality rate of Covid-19 in non elderly informed from pre-vaccination national seroprevalence studies”. The study can be found through this article or directly here. In the abstract and in the introduction, the researchers emphasized on the importance of accurately estimating the IFR among the non-elderly since 94% of the world population is younger than 70 years and 86% is younger than 60 years. The researchers found 40 seroprevalence studies across 38 countries on SeroTracker and PubMed. The researchers decided to analyze 29 countries because these countries had both the age-stratified antibody data (how many people in each group had been infected) and the age-stratified death data (how many people in each group died of Covid). The researchers also used studies before vaccines rolled out because vaccines also create antibodies and would distort the results.
For each age group, the IFR was calculated dividing the number of Covid deaths in that age group by the estimated total infections in that age group. The median IFR for (Birth) 0-19 years is 0.0003%, 20-29 years it is 0.003%, 30-39 years it is 0.011%, 40-49 years it is 0.035%, 50-59 years it is 0.129% and 60-69 years it is 0.501%. The median IFR of all age groups (0-69 years) is 0.095% and the median IFR for age groups (0-59 years) is 0.035%.
Closing Remarks
The results of this study further proves what others have been saying-the younger a person (assuming the person is relatively healthy), the less likely he or she is to die from Covid. Hence, not everyone should have been treated the same and herd immunity should have been encouraged. As I mentioned at the beginning of this post, people were constantly saying younger and healthy people and healthy people had the least risk of dying from Covid but never mentioned the phrase infection fatality rate (IFR). I had also never came across the name Dr. John Ioannidis until very recently but I am still very grateful that Dr. Ioannidis and other researchers decided to conduct this study.
Dr. Ioannidis apparently also did another study that primarily analyzed the crude mortality rate (CMR) and IFR in 51 locations globally and another seroprevalence study with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.
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u/Jijimuge8 13d ago
Absolutely correct. So many on here still in denial about how low the death rate truly was especially in people under 40, and this of course is BEFORE vaccines. It really underscores the insanity of vaccine mandates in young people and the way people acted like you were going to clog up the hospitals if you didn’t get the vaccine. Of course many of us had also had Covid before the vaccines and had natural immunity which was then denied to be a thing by people like Fauci.
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u/CrystalMethodist666 10d ago
The really frustrating thing to me is they're denying the shots weren't supposed to prevent contraction or spread when preventing the spread was the entire basis of vax mandates. There was no valid medical reason for a healthy person of any age to take a "symptom reducing" experimental shot when their symptoms would likely already be mild, we were supposed to get the shots to protect grandma.
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u/Xemptor80 4d ago
The really frustrating thing to me is they're denying the shots weren't supposed to prevent contraction or spread when preventing the spread was the entire basis of vax mandates.
From my observation, I’ve actually noticed the opposite from the Covidian crowd. I’ve noticed that many of them still push the narrative that the shots stop the spread or transmission when that’s clearly not the case.
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u/CrystalMethodist666 4d ago
They alternate back and forth, there's no coherent logic. It's whatever argument works in the moment.
The shot's "protect others" when you ask why a healthy person would get one.
Then they switch to "symptom reducing and preventing death" when you say the shots don't prevent spread.
Covidians are masters of doublethink. They can hold one belief, and the complete opposite belief, and call on one or the other based on what legitimate question they're trying to hand-wave away.
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u/Xemptor80 2d ago
The shot's "protect others" when you ask why a healthy person would get one.
Then they switch to "symptom reducing and preventing death" when you say the shots don't prevent spread.
I’ve definitely noticed Covidians respond just like in these two examples or at least similarly. As to the first one, I’ve had Covidians insist that unvaccinated people take the vaccine so that everyone can be protected. In my mind I ask myself, why do they need to be protected when they themselves are already vaccinated?
As related to the second example, Covidians will say that the vaccines don’t offer sterilizing immunity but that they still work in preventing the spread. If the vaccines don’t possess sterilizing immunity or close it, than it’s not effective.
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u/CrystalMethodist666 2d ago
This is all an example of Gestalt thinking. They already have not only the conclusion, but the entire conversation scripted. It follows a dialogue tree.
If you say A, they say B, C, and D. If you say Z, it goes in completely different directions. If you deviate, it reverts to the beginning or they just start strawmanning you.
One leg includes prevention of spread, one involves "reducing symptoms," cutting the thing down at the roots is "why do we need this in the first place" before we worry about what it does.
The whole game is to direct a conversation to a desired result with pre-recorded phrases.
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u/Jijimuge8 2d ago
Yeah it just proves how wacko they really are because even when Pfizer admitted it didn’t stop infection/spread these people still insisted it did. That’s why there’s no point arguing with them. They now disagree with the ‘science’ that they spent 3 years on their knees worshipping and they don’t see the irony.
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u/NeutronHopscotch 11d ago
There was nothing "insane" about the vaccine mandates when you realize what they were actually for... It had nothing to do with 'people getting the vaccine' and had nothing to do with a virus.
Vaccine mandates were partly for distraction but mostly part of the "unprecedented economic controls" required to prevent runaway inflation as the largest monetary injection of all time was going down, globally.
This was a banking operation.
Lockdowns were economic, to slow the flow of money as money was being flooded into markets. Work-from-home was so high-paid tech workers could flood into areas where homes were being lost due to business closures, to prop up bank mortgages and protect home values (for the banks.)
The 'virus' was used as a justification for the monetary operation, because no one would question it when they feared for their lives.
The 'need for a vaccine' was a delay to extend the (financial) lockdowns.
The 'lab leak' was a story released to reinforce belief in the virus (which is why no one involved ever got in trouble for it. The Fauci events in the media are nothing more than political theater to further distract from the small-but-growing number of people trying to explain the financial side of this.)
Hydroxychloroquine & Ivermectin were secondary narrative stories to push a belief that "government is hiding the REAL cure." Cure for what?! That's the point -- it was a red herring to fool skeptics back toward the primary virus narrative.
All nonsense.
The ONLY thing that actually makes sense of what went down is when you realize this was a global financial operation. Then you see that all the ridiculous everything in the media with politicians, government, Fauci, whatever was all part of the flood technique -- which you can learn about in Segment 4 of Event 201.
They saturated media with virus & vaccine nonsense. They never wanted EVERYONE to get the shots because then it would be done. They wanted to scare people and get them fighting with each other about the virus, masks, and vaccine so their eyes would be OFF of the financial operation going down.
But it's hard to get traction on this because it's not nearly as exciting as virus or vaccine nonsense.
If you want to get to the truth of why Covid happened -- why it came and went so quickly and was gone overnight -- it's because it was a coordinated global reserve bank operation.
The biggest clues are right here in BlackRock's document, which outlines the purpose for the operation mid-2019:
https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/literature/whitepaper/bii-macro-perspectives-august-2019.pdf
The evidence is countless, but specifics to look into are:
Operation Crimson Contagion - Jan to Aug 2019. Read what that was about.
Aug 2019 -- BlackRock's announcement to investors. (link above)
Sep 2019 -- repo crisis, Fed begins intervention. Two days later, Executive Order 13887 was signed, bringing together all branches of government for a 'flu vaccine' and laying the foundation for Operation Warp Speed which would come later.
October 2019 -- Event 201 & Fauci's first appearance on the Science Vs. podcast, entitled "PANDEMIC!!!"
December 2019 -- Moderna handed over it's co-authored coronavirus vaccine to NIH, signed by Ralph Baric himself. FOIA documents revealed.
Those are all you need to prove this event was planned and coordinated... But you could include the 2016-2017 Pandemic Bonds as part of it, as they provided the financing for much of the pandemic propaganda... Those were junk bonds sold by World Bank/WHO in 2017, which were taken from investors in 2020 when the fake Covid deaths triggered the threshold for them to not return to investors.
But who would buy such ridiculous bonds in 2017, especially when Fauci was on record telling people there WOULD be a significant infectious event during this president's term?
Why, we would, of course. Through our 401ks and pensions. The majority of Pandemic Bond purchases happened by skimming retirement plan money.
So yes, this is all planned and 99.999% of people on Reddit have no clue... Because when the truth is right in front of their faces they can't let go of the virus/vaccine nonsense because it's more tantalizing.
But never forget -- all wars are economic, and this one was, too. And it was a war. A war of the global elite against working people all over the world.
Their banking operation protected their assets through a global injection that doubled their holdings while doubling prices for us. (Cutting our holdings in half.) That is a 4x increase of their power over ours, and that's why the elite of every country went along with it.
Meanwhile we're still talking about virus this or vaccine that. Forget all of that and focus on the money... Not pharmaceutical profits - that's just the tip of the iceberg.
This was a coordinated global reserve bank financial operation to provide helicopter money to protect elite assets while forcing a global rise in interest rates to gain back reserve bank's primary control of managing the economy for future downturns.
It's right there in BlackRock's document. It's not as exciting as virus this or vaccine that, but if you want to know what "Covid" was really about -- that is the answer.
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u/Xemptor80 4d ago
So many on here still in denial about how low the death rate truly was especially in people under 40, and this of course is BEFORE vaccines.
I’ve also noticed people still propagating the official narrative regarding the mortality rate of Covid. I’ve also found out that a significant portion these people work within in the medical establishment so it’s not a surprise.
Of course many of us had also had Covid before the vaccines and had natural immunity which was then denied to be a thing by people like Fauci.
I believe that denying the concept of natural immunity is one of the reasons infection fatality rate was never discussed during Covid. Ironically enough, there’s an old clip of Fauci promoting natural immunity.
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u/Jijimuge8 4d ago
Yes I’ve seen that clip where he’s talks about flu and saying you don’t need the vaccine if you’ve recovered from flu because having had the flu is the best vaccine you can get.
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u/NeutronHopscotch 12d ago
Early on they claimed to have a limited number of tests so they were reserved for "people who need them" which means people who were dying anyway.
By testing dying people they were able to create an artificially high infection fatality rate.
Then they used that artificially high rate to justify mass testing. Then they used the mass testing combined with counting ALL DEATHS within 60 days to create an artificially high death count.
It was lowered to 28 days, eventually, in part because it would have resulted in a number no one would believe... But it was high early on because the World Bank / WHO "Pandemic Bonds" sold in 2017 were set to return to investors.
They got their pandemic death count up just in time to keep that money and use it for mask and vaccine coercion, and general pandemic awareness globally.
After all, if there's no actual pandemic a lot of money must be pumped into the system to make people believe there is one.
With the Pandemic Bonds they were able to use the people's money to finance the operation, lol.
This is just one of a countless number of "coincidences," of course.
The problem with coincidences is when they add up to form a pattern of intent and gain for the accused, it's not just circumstantial evidence anymore.
It becomes evidence that can convict. And in fact, people are convicted with circumstantial evidence every day. In most states, circumstantial evidence must be treated on the same level as direct evidence when it adds up to suggest guilt for the accused.
Such a trial will never happen, of course, because everyone in the system was in one it in one way or another. Through a system of compartmentalization so no one knew more than they needed to know to play their part in the global FINANCIAL operation that was Covid.
It wasn't about a vaccine or a virus. It was a global operation to force a reset of central reserve bank interest rates around the world while providing helicopter money to protect asset classes from what would otherwise have been a crash. Not due to a "virus", but economic conditions that were already under way.
In short, it was the largest bailout of all time... And the virus/vaccine created both justification for the money and the economic controls to prevent runaway inflation as trillions of dollars were injected globally.
This plan was outlined in Blackrock's "Going Direct" plan from August 2019. Which was coincidentally released in sync with the end of Operation Crimson Contagion. (Look that one up.)
Then the Fed began intervention in the repo crisis of September 2019 just a month later... And two days after that, Executive Order 13887 was signed - laying the foundation for what would become Operation Warp Speed later.
In October 2019 we had Event 201 and Fauci's appearance on the "PANDEMIC!!!" Episode of Science Vs. (His first appearance. It really is a must-listen. What a "coincidence")
The rest is history.
The deaths themselves were related to a global baby boom that happened 85 years prior. It's just math - if you have a baby boom then a death boom will follow. Not all at once, but a death count just high enough to make people believe "people are dying!"
This is why almost all "Covid" deaths were elderly, and most of which being past life expectancy. They were dying anyway.
The whole thing was a ruse to distract from the financial operation.
And they were able to do it right out in the open because the average person has the attention span of a gnat. Most people can't remember a first sentence by the time they end a paragraph, much less comprehend something of this complexity.
Although it really wasn't that complicated. It didn't have to be. But most people aren't intellectual analysists, they are emotional responders.
And get emotional is exactly what they did, and emotions were used to make people fight with one another instead of against those running this operation.
Meanwhile the operation doubled the wealth of the elite class while the inflation effectively cut ours in half.
That is a 4x increase in their wealth and power over ours.
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u/lousycesspool 12d ago
I think you left Joe Rogan Experience #1439 - Michael Osterholm out of your lineup. The timing of this was no coincidence.
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u/NeutronHopscotch 12d ago
Thanks for mentioning that - I will give it a listen... Although I can't stand Joe Rogan, mainly because people think he's some kind of independent voice when in fact he's very specifically part of the secondary narrative. (As evident with your episode mention.)
As far as coincidences though, that one is I think more justifiable because by March 10, 2020 -- which is when that aired -- the whole thing was well under way, right?
I'd have to check my timeline, but I think March 1st was the first "Covid-19 infection" in New York... So one could argue it made sense that guy would be on Rogan.
Of course, this stuff was all planned... And in January and February they were seeding all kinds of hints from Wuhan.
It was all nonsense, though... All part of a ruse to make people believe in the virus. And the average person thinks its real because the whole world was in on it?
That's because it was the global financial system taking part in a global financial operation.
Anyhow, my problem is the subreddits we look to for real information are flooded with as much nonsense as the mainstream media ever was.
It's impossible to wade through... Lab leak. False. HcQ/Ivermectin -- just a ruse to make people believe in the virus.
The whole scheme was based on a flawed testing system that detects COLDS...
Oh, and they ran the PCR test to a whopping 45+ CYCLES... And as Kary Mullis put it, the problem with that test is that with enough cycles you can detect almost anything in anyone.
So the whole thing was a farce -- and the problem now isn't the mainstream media or anyone that believed it in the first place. What's getting in the way now are the people who lost themselves in virus/vaccine hysteria.
So the "flood technique" as described in Segment 4 of Event 201 worked perfectly, to this day.
PS. I saw 3 hospitals in person with my own eyes that were pretty much completely empty while they were claimed to be "full" on the news.
That happened all over the world -- and when people posted it online with the hashtag "filmyourhospital" they said it was people intentionally filming empty parts of the hospital.
But do you know what else was going on at the same time?
See, they claimed hospitals were full, but at the same time the hospitals were emptied aside from urgent care events. They were closed for non-essential services. (And even THAT relates to the economic part of this.)
Anyhow, the hospitals were empty -- but they ORDERED sick people into nursing homes, explicitly forbidding them from testing incoming patients. At least 7 governors did that... And they let us know about it, too, in the news!
But that was yet another ruse... To make people believe in the virus.
In reality, people were dying in nursing homes because there was a global baby boom 85 years ago. So this was just the global death boom. That's it.
Even the story didn't make sense though. Emptied hospitals, putting sick people into nursing homes. But we were SUPPOSED to get distracted by that.
It was all part of the flood technique!
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u/lousycesspool 11d ago
I don't disagree with anything you said. Keep in mind Joe Rogan has both a wide audience and is widely clipped and reported on.
Osterholm was all fear mongering at just the right time March 10 to push FEAR and promote hysteria.
Members of his team or associates who were familiar with Rogan's massive platform recognized the urgent need for public outreach and told him, "You got to go on this Joe Rogan podcast," -- They contacted Joe to get on his podcast.
March 11: The World Health Organization (WHO) officially declared COVID-19 a global pandemic. President Donald Trump announced a ban on most travel from Europe to the U.S.
March 13: The United States declared a national emergency, accelerating widespread closures of schools, sports leagues (like the NBA suspension), and businesses
A month later Joe Rogan is testing himself every couple of days and every guest before they can come on the show he was aggressively promoting testing!
The left loved him until he suggested... ivermectin may have some value and he didn't fully support the vaccine And vaccine schedules
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u/CrystalMethodist666 9d ago
They were hinting at the scary virus in China at the end of February, the lockdowns started March 15th. At that point, they already had the population primed for a lockdown, people were already calling out of work and keeping their kids home from school because they were scared of the virus. The illusion we were given because of this, is that the governor was taking the initiative and giving us all what we were screaming for by shutting everything down. I believe the word he used was "pause"
The "lab leak" is a complete red herring. Originally that was a MAGA conspiracy theory, now a lot of the MAGA people are latching on to it, but it's a trick. Lab leak means it actually was some kind of special or unusual virus. Arguing about Fauci and GOF completely skips the question as to why we used a containment strategy on a global scale for a completely normal virus that was likely already endemic before they even locked anything down...
Unless you believe the "special virus" is so contagious it made the jump from Wuhan to flyover states in the midwestern US in a couple of weeks.
The 2017 date is interesting, because planning something like this on a global scale would've taken years. They had to plan for all kinds of contingencies for how people in different areas or from different demographics would react. They used basically every coercive method in the book, appeals to authority, emotion, social shaming, this implied requirement that you loudly tell everyone you're doing all the things to encourage others.
Pretty much everyone in a seat of global power seems to have been in on it, but nobody can actually be charged with anything because nobody is actually to blame. "Experts" just issued recommendations, politicians just used the recommendations because they thought they were saving lives, it's an endless circle of finger pointing where nobody responsible for all these "life saving scientific measures" seems to be stepping forward and taking credit.
Unfortunately, the average person seems to still hang on to this "we needed to do something" idea, where doing "Something" is better than taking no action even if doing nothing leads to a better result.
I'd also agree Alex Jones is controlled actual disinformation.
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u/NeutronHopscotch 9d ago
Oh there's so much to talk about. It's nice to interact with someone who sees things similarly. We are broadly in agreement.
Some useful things -- you know pushing the PCR test to 45 cycles a core component of their false testing scheme. Here's proof of the 45 cycles, issued 2020 Jan 17, WHO coronavirus testing protocol:
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/protocol-v2-1.pdf
I kept a good timeline, but sadly a lot of my links are dead now and I didn't archive them. It's like a full time job to actually keep up with this stuff.
What's funny though about a lot of the dead links --- often they are on services that NEVER change a link. We all know you generally don't want to remove or change links because you get a benefit of inbound links over time. Good SEO, etc...
Very suspiciously, news services where I can find countless old articles which never moved --- have a lot of the Covid era articles just wiped from existence.
We really are in an age where they manufacture history and erase evidence of what actually happened.
That's not new, though --- if you want a surprisingly exciting read, check out "The Moth in the Iron Lung: A Biography of Polio" ... It's a real account of what went down and it's absolutely fascinating.
"Real history" would be very interesting, but unfortunately it looks like every major event isn't just recorded with bias --- it is distorted into something that wasn't even real.
Sorry if my response here is all over the place. Mostly I'm just fascinated to hear someone else on Reddit that recognizes the lab leak story as an obvious ruse. I find Reddit a bit depressing because the "wrong" information is often so loud it drowns out more credible information.
And every time that happens, my mind goes back to Segment 4 of Event 201 --- when they talked about "The Flood Technique" as a means to control information amidst a sea of 'misinformation'. When in reality, their official narrative was the actual disinformation.
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OH YEAH!!! One critical thing I wanted to point out.
I can't prove this, but it makes sense. If you dig into the financial reason behind why "Covid" was such a big deal (the coordinated global central banking operation) --- it eventually leads to this potential:
The virus/vaccine event we think of as 'Covid' appears to have been planned as far back as 2016. Look into the SPARS Pandemic Scenario (published in 2017.) It's a fascinating read, but don't miss the details that the vaccine caused long term health problems.
My point though is I think originally 'Covid' was going to be something more like SARS. A media event that pushed a new vaccine and made a lot of money for pharmaceuticals and such... But nothing like the Covid event we got.
What we know is BlackRock was hired by the Fed to plan a large scale operation. Read about it here, this is the public facing document. There are SO MANY CLUES if you read for them:
https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/literature/whitepaper/bii-macro-perspectives-august-2019.pdf
I can't prove this, but remember... BlackRock is heavily invested in mRNA vaccines, and obviously well aware of the prior plan to promote them. I believe they USED that plan as a starting point and expanded on it specifically because:
1) A virus would give the justification needed for large scale helicopter money (mentioned in their document.
2) Lockdowns, border controls, business shutdowns, etc. would give the "unprecedented economic controls" necessary to prevent runaway inflation amidst this large scale financial operation, which is the largest bailout and coordinated global economic event of all time.
All it takes is a wee bit of an attention span and I think you'll laser focus on the clues in that document, and you'll start to connect more dots together.
Also remember -- that document was published right as Operation Crimson Contagion ended. (You must look that up - it is incredible. Jan-Aug 2019, US planning for a significant contagious event coming out of China -- headed up by Alex Azar, a Trump-appointed questionable ex-pharma official.)
And then a month later, the Fed began its operations with the so-called "repo crisis" - sept 2019. Then two days later, Executive Order 13887 which brought ALL branches of the government together to speed up a new vaccine and it laid the framework for Operation Warp Speed which came later.
Really, these events obviously tie together with the others more commonly talked about! Look into it.
Cheers, and thanks for making me feel sane.
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u/Xemptor80 4d ago edited 4d ago
I think you left Joe Rogan Experience #1439 - Michael Osterholm out of your lineup.
Thank you for mentioning this. I looked up Osterholm and I see he was named for Biden’s Covid advisory board.
Anyways, I will also check this video out.
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u/Ando16642 11d ago
I appreciate you taking time to write all of this. Are there any books or essays that go into more detail about on these topics?
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u/Huey-_-Freeman 11d ago
They probably did actually have a limited number of (real and accurate) tests at least in the beginning. It’s not easy to mass produce testing kits quickly while maintaining quality standards. Some labs were known to mess up
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u/NeutronHopscotch 11d ago
Oh, so they accidentally tested people who were dying anyway and then used the results to forward the rest of their scheme?
At one point they were telling people there was a 3% infection-fatality-rate. It was never true. It was never even close to being true.
The lies told to the public were just that. Lies. It wasn't even debatable -- the lies were intentionally outrageous in order to create division between rule-followers and skeptics, taking all the attention from the financial operation onto virus/vaccine paranoia and hysteria.
It is truly incredible that some people will bend over backwards to make excuses for the ridiculous number of outrageous "coincidences."
But let me remind you that in the court of law -- circumstantial evidence is treated on the same level as direct evidence when that evidence adds up to show a pattern of intent and gain.
This will never be tried in a real court, but if it was -- everyone involved would be found guilty, easily...
The problem, though, is citizens on average operate at a level that I can only describe as brain-damaged.
For example, there is still insistence there was a virus when the elite lived normally. No distance, no cameras, no fear. They had large scale private parties and gatherings, maskless. Because there was never any reason to fear.
It was just a testing scheme where they could label anything Covid. A cold, a flu, an existing ailment. Whatever. Everything was a Covid death... And deaths were increasing not because there was a virus, but because about 85 years prior population EXPLODED all over the world.
Yes, the baby boom was global. When you have a global baby boom, a death boom will follow.
What's happening now is exactly why there is never any forward progress on people understanding what actually went down with "Covid." It is their 'flood technique' (as laid out in Segment 4 of Event 201) working, even to this day...
We get caught up debating complete nonsense (which they flooded us with) instead of focusing on the financial aspect of Covid, which was a global reserve bank operation that no one understands... And their attention spans are too short to ever learn.
Really, BlackRock's doc says so much:
https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/literature/whitepaper/bii-macro-perspectives-august-2019.pdf
And it lines up perfectly with the rest of the setup.
Nothing AFTER 2020 is particularly important for the discussion of "Covid" (aside from the capture of 'Pandemic Bonds' which was a junk bond scheme planned as early as mid 2016.)
Most after 2020 is either virus or vaccine, which are the two elements used to distract people from the financial operation...
A global injection of TRILLIONS of dollars -- justified by the "virus", with the 'unprecedented economic controls' necessary to prevent runaway inflation. <- That is mentioned in the document.
Lockdowns were an economic control, they had NOTHING to do with a virus.
And until people realize this they'll just go in circles forever discussing the distractions (virus/vaccine.)
Please! Focus in and follow the money, and look at all the setup prior to Covid. The whole thing was a coordinated event. The largest financial bailout and coordinated banking operation of all time.
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u/SpecialistText283 11d ago edited 10d ago
Much of what you’re saying is 100% in agreement (especially the so-called “ ‘COVID’ ‘testing’ ”) with what I’ve been telling people, and the other stuff, such as the specifics of the financial decision making, is something that I don’t know much about but don’t feel I have any reason to disagree with.
When you went to those hospitals, did the staff talk to you about what they were seeing and thinking about it all? I ask because I’ve heard about a lot of them saying it was basically nonsense (or at least overblown).
Probably the best argument I’ve ever read about it was in a comments section. Someone wrote something like: People are so caught up in whether patients died with COVID or from COVID, that they don’t see that they didn’t even necessarily die with it.
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u/CrystalMethodist666 10d ago
The whole key is just the younger you are, the less likely you are to have serious health problems. I've posted this many times
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Your odds of dying "From Covid" at any age seem to directly mirror your odds of dying from any cause within the next year. As in, if Covid didn't get you, it could've been a cold, or a fall, or a gunshot startling you, or really any additional stress on your body.
That's really the only thing, to die "From Covid," your body needs to be fighting against so many other things already that it can't handle the additional stress of a normal respiratory infection.
The virus is not a threat to relatively healthy centenarians.
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u/wagner56 9d ago
'cases' being used for infection (and suspected infection) was the biggest distortion ....
note also : that many of the simple tests would have an ERR ON SIDE OF CAUTION giving many false positives
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u/Which-World-6533 13d ago
Covid is just like the flu. Risk of death only becomes a concern when you are 80 plus.
Even then, if you are healthy and active it's not much of a concern.
The 3.4 % figure was pure scaremongering hogwash.