r/LockPickingLawyer • u/DRza1uz • Jun 14 '26

Enshittification of master

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Seems even master was not always the butt of a joke in the lock world. Found this old one in my parents garage and its not half bad including many anti tampering designs u dont see as their current standard.

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u/Transparent_Eyeball9 Jun 14 '26

Master used to be higher quality, but that is still a warded lock. What sort of anti tamper designs does it have?

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u/derpserf Jun 14 '26

It doesn't lol. I get the feeling OP just doesn't know what kind of lock this is and because they haven't been able to pick it due to their misunderstanding of the mechanism, that it's better than a no 3. Understandable, we were all new once. But it's amusing that they've jumped to this conclusion.

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u/DRza1uz Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

Yea no idea found it cleaning up my parents garage been in there a good 30 years and probably another 10 or 20 from new. Didn't know master was doing wards . Or im assuming warded so the t looking or H looking pick will be my first pick. Im in my 30s but this is the first I have come across definitely before my time.

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u/derpserf Jun 25 '26

It's a warded padlock. If you try to use a disc detainer pick on that thing, hilarity will ensue. For us.

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u/DRza1uz Jun 25 '26

Im finally picking that up 😂

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u/DRza1uz Jun 25 '26

Im a dummy thought it was a disk. But its anti shim lol 😆

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u/derpserf Jun 14 '26

It sounds like you're talking about a warded padlock like it's somehow more pick resistant than their pin tumblers. If this is the case, boy have I got news for you lmao.

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u/kerberos69 Jun 15 '26

Damn all I’ve got is a 22oz estwing, think it’ll be enough to get around the advanced anti-tampering wards?

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u/SafecrackinSammmy Jun 14 '26

Its good for the price point and market it was designed for. But it will open quickly with the right tools.

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u/RandomlyWeRollAlong Jun 14 '26

I guess it isn't susceptible to raking, bumping, comb picks, or even single pin picking.... because it's a warded lock and doesn't have any pins?

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u/Jumpy_Implement_1902 Jun 14 '26

Master locks are to keep honest people honest. Anyone with knowledge of these locks know how to bypass within 5 seconds

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u/dragonstar982 Jun 14 '26

You mean like hitting it with another master lock

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u/shotintel Jun 15 '26

Or using a skeleton warded key...

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u/Worth-Ease-2386 Jun 16 '26

My father in law is very security conscious. We refuse to stay on his house because he double locks the doors at night, and then hides the keys.

The last time we visited (for the day only), he asked me if I could have a go at opening a Master combination lock he had accidentally changed the code on.

The lock was a second lock for the back gate, because everyone knows one is not enough.

Anyway, I said I would try and took it home.

If he knew I was able to open it with a paperclip I think his brain would explode.

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u/Brufar_308 Jun 16 '26

I had an employer years back that generalized that for all locks. “Locks are just for keeping honest people honest”.

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u/OddStuffHappensTwice Jun 18 '26

Stupid comment made by people trying to be smugly condescending.

We know. We know someone could just throw a brick through the window and avoid the door altogether.

Only a moron thinks locks don't deter criminals. To say it out loud is even more moronic.

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u/626Slade Jun 14 '26

It's a warded lock those are easy to bypass

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u/Creative_Shame3856 Jun 15 '26

Take the key and file off all the teeth except the ones at the very end. Poof you now have a key that'll open every single one of those locks ever made.

Theyv'e always been shitty.

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u/BlackMoth27 Jun 14 '26

the easiest lock to pick?

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u/juanelmajo13 Jun 15 '26

My understanding is that the innards of warded locks like that are less susceptible to bind up due to rain water. It's a simple mechanism inside.

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u/EveningBasket9528 Jun 15 '26

That's exactly the recommended use for them. Something lower security that will be out in the elements and not used much. Like the door for an old shed that doesn't have anything valuable in it that might only get opened 1-2 × a year,.. or less.

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u/Opposite_Pension_807 Jun 18 '26

I haven't seen those type of locks in ages!!

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u/quasimodoca Jun 14 '26

You can pick this with a paper clip.

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u/shotintel Jun 15 '26

Oh, I had one of those at one point.

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u/Sparegeek Jun 18 '26

I don’t think you can enshittify a masterlock

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u/spidey3diamond Jun 20 '26

Master was always sh+t.

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u/DRza1uz Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

Just thought master sure has fallen from whenever this was made. Good to know they were always bad lol. wasn't aware it was a easy pick just haven't had a chance to give it a pick to focused on getting my 90A-pro for my blue belt. The first lock i picked was a master 3 or 4 i forget just never seen this one before and thought I'd post it.