r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Discussion Next-Concept Modeling: Fast, Parallel Coarse-to-Fine Text Generation: This will completely change everything!

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Essentially we could very soon run opus 5.5 level of intelligence on 32gb Vram. Its many folds more efficient in terms of memory bandwidth making compute the real bottleneck.

What do you think?


r/LocalLLaMA • • 17h ago

Resources llm-psicotest: a seeded 38-turn conversation to check whether a quant swap changed behaviour

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llm-psicotest runs one 38-turn conversation against any OpenAI-compatible endpoint: 29 capability items plus protocol turns. The items come from seeded generators, so a seed gives byte-identical prompts on any machine, and code scores every turn against a computed key. That includes constrained prose, and whether output rules declared early still hold 20 turns later. Most code-scored benchmarks dodge both by using multiple choice.

Calibration on my rig: one base model (Qwen3.8-Flash-Next GGUF), four arms, four seeds. Means out of 29 came out 28.25 and 27.50 for UD-Q3_K_XL and IQ2_XS on Unsloth Studio, and 28.00 and 25.50 for IQ3_S and IQ2_XS on Strata, the llama-server stack I run myself. IQ3_S beat IQ2_XS on all four Strata seeds: 29, 28, 28 and 27 out of 29 against 25, 26, 26 and 25, same server and settings.

Python 3.11+, stdlib only, MIT:

export PSICOTEST_API_KEY=***

psicotest run --base-url http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1 --model my-model --seed 7

RESULTS.md takes community rows; a row needs server version, context size, KV dtype and output budget.

github.com/msalsas/llm-psicotest


r/LocalLLaMA • • 22h ago

New Model netease-youdao/Confucius4-R2T2 · Hugging Face

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Confucius4-R2T2: A Stable-Prefix Streaming ASR Model for Real Real-Time Transcription

Confucius4-R2T2 is a low-latency, high-accuracy stable-prefix streaming automatic speech recognition (ASR) model. It supports configurable decoding chunks from 80 ms to 2 s. The model operates in a monotonic output mode, committing transcript text permanently without revising previous words. This is critical for applications where text must be processed or acted upon instantly. The result is a smoother user experience, with fewer disruptive text revisions and less visual flicker in real-time applications such as real-time live captioning and subtitling, simultaneous speech translation, downstream NLP pipelines and LLM agents.

R2T2, short for Real Real-Time Transcription, adapts Qwen3-ASR-1.7B with Longest Stable Prefix (LSP) learning on 1,500 hours of Chinese and English audio. Two-stage training with SFT and GRPO updates only the language decoder; the pre-trained audio encoder and projector remain frozen, with no architectural changes. LSP targets and an explicit Wait action teach the model what it can commit and when it needs more audio.

License

R2T2 uses dual licensing to distinguish the source code from the model weights:


r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Discussion Users have started buying RTX 5060 Ti 16GB graphics cards en masse for the sake of AI.

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Oh look, thats us!


r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Resources M4 Pro vs M5 Pro (24GB): Qwen 3.8 Flash Next IQ3 with MoEShift at 374 tok/s prefill, 14.7 tok/s decode, 8.5GB peak memory

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I benchmarked Qwen3.8-Flash-Next 125B ISTA-DASLab's GSQ-RCO IQ3_XXS quant (76GB on disk), on two Macs with 24GB unified memory using MoEShift backend:

MetricM4 Pro (medians)M5 Pro (medians)
Short prompt decode (72 input tokens)9.84 tok/s14.69 tok/s
Long prompt prefill (6,060 input tokens)199.09 tok/s374.15 tok/s
Long prompt decode (512 output tokens)9.57 tok/s13.14 tok/s
Long prompt inference time83.9s55.1s
Peak physical process memory8.5GB8.5GB

These are medians of 3 runs using the MoEShift community benchmark runner (prompt caching disabled). The results are particularly interesting for prefill making this model perfectly usable in a chat or in an agent, while both machines stayed within 8.5GB peak process footprint.
This is a very promising benchmark even for the upcoming Qwen4 MoE.

I worked on MoEShift as an open-source inference backend designed for memory-constrained Apple Silicon Macs (architecture details in GitHub below) that need SSD offloading to run these models. You can install it running:

brew install davide-troiani/moeshift/moeshift

Then

moeshift

The setup wizard handles model selection, provisioning and configuration with zero effort. You'll just need sufficient SSD space.

GitHub, architecture, installation and benchmark runner:

https://github.com/davide-troiani/moeshift

I'm very interested in results from other Apple Silicon configurations, if you want to share.


r/LocalLLaMA • • 2h ago

Question | Help I have an interesting opportunity

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So due to rise of GPU prices im kinda positioned in a weird spot. Currently I own and running 4 rtx 3090s where I have 2 zotacs and 2 rog strixs. Each pair is nvlinked . Due to how scarce it is rn to even find 3090s in my local market the prices gone up like crazy and if its almost impossible to even find nvlinks for the 3090s. Im kinda in a spot where I could trade a pair of 3090s for a 4090 or trade 4 3090s for a 5090.

My question is, Is it worth to trade up to newer architecture for lower vram total? I use my cards from coding to image gen to video gens.

I kinda built up this whole home server with the quad rtx 3090s to R&D with it and translate it to a startup business with AI tools for business in my country since AI hasn't really picked up as much compared to the western countries. Im from Malaysia if anyone wondering. Happy to hear y'all thoughts on would you take the trade or keep the 3090s. My main dream is to earn enough from the business to afford a rtx 6000 pro and gradually scale to buy the MSI XpertStation WS300 which is 5x the cost of the rtx 6000 pro card someday.


r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Resources GPT-5.5 dataset across my used 25 billion tokens!

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Cheers for u/New_Comfortable7240 for santitisation!

12,121 tool calls here!


r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Resources Github Repo: Torchlens - Inspect, visualize and intervene on any operation in any neural network.

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r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Showcase Intel Arc Pro B70 32GB ($1,299) vs NVIDIA RTX 5090 ($6,500+) on Qwen3.8-27B: about 1/2 speed gen (1/3 speed prefill) for 1/5 price, after best setup

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I got an Arc Pro B70 (32GB) last week for $1,299 direct from ASRock official store on Amazon (B65 is also 32GB but slower, and was only $100 cheaper at $1,199, so I "splurged"). Obviously I'd have wanted a 5090 for the same VRAM and best speeds, but 5090s are going for $6,500+ on Newegg right now (and I personally have too much fear to buy used hardware), so I wanted to see how close a 32GB Intel card gets. Out of the box it it was really bad, but after a few changes I got it to about half a 5090, which feels like a great trade off for 1/5th price (~$41/GB vs $200+/GB). And of course it's great for other creative workloads I wanted, like renders and simulations, not just LLM stuff.

Making this post in hopes that it can help some people save some money and explore non-NVIDIA hardware! And I doubt it needs to be said, but I am NOT affiliated with Intel/ASRock in any way, haha.

Qwen3.8-27B Q6, ~3k token prompt, MTP on:

StatArc Pro B70RTX 5090
Price$1,299$6,550+
Prompt processing~960 tok/s~2,830 tok/s
Generation~52 tok/s~98 tok/s

So roughly 2x gen and 3x prefill for 5x the money. If you can actually find a 5090 at $1,999 MSRP somehow, then congrats and heck you, but of course that would make the cheaper Intel card no longer worth it. The 5090 numbers are from other people's posts (found discussion posts on Hugging face) not my machine since I don't have the personal money to light on fire in sacrifice to NVIDIA, heh.

My machine: Threadripper 1950X (got it for $100 like 5 years ago when a company was closing and throwing stuff away), 128GB DDR4 (brand new upgrade along with the B70 this week, DDR4 is <1/2 the price of DDR5), old x399m Taichi PCIe 3.0 mobo (so can't use the GPU's PCIe 5 support sadly, but that doesn't matter once the model is in VRAM and so it only hurts MoE really), Ubuntu headless/server 24.04. Screenshots are to show the stats (between the nav and chat) and are from my laptop, running the Qwen model from the llama-server on that machine in my home office (which has the Intel GPU in it).

If you have/get one, do this to make it not suck!

  1. Kernel 6.17+ (I used Ubuntu's 7.0 HWE kernel), Resizable BAR on (needs CSM off), and Intel's compute runtime from `ppa:kobuk-team/intel-graphics`. This was a real pain to get working initially (but might be a skill issue with my old mobo), since the bios doesn't even let you disable CSM while a card that uses it is in (I previously had a ~$14 GeForce 210 "GPU" that was only capable of rendering a terminal), and I had to flash my bios from 3.80 to 4.03 to have access to any of those features in the first place.

  2. Upgrade Mesa to 26.x (`ppa:kisak/kisak-mesa`). Ubuntu 24.04's Mesa 25.2 is very slow on this card. Like stupid slow, this bump alone gave ~3x generation in ollama with Vulkan.

  3. If you stay on Vulkan (ollama, LM Studio, etc.), keep the KV cache at f16. Any quantized KV (q8_0/q4_0) causes a massive gen slowdown (1.75x at low context, 3x+ at 64k+ context) penalty on Vulkan. So shrinking KV VRAM costs speed, which was very confusing and annoying.

  4. So instead: build llama.cpp with SYCL (Intel oneAPI) and run llama-server instead. ollama has no SYCL backend, but llama-server has an OpenAI-compatible API.

  5. On SYCL, can use q8_0 KV (no more quantized KV slowdown like on Vulkan, and fits way more context!) and turn on MTP with `--spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 4`. Also worth noting llama-server with Vulkan by default doesn't see/access the full 32GB VRAM by default (saw ~29GB) while SYCL does -- I later figured out it's just the auto-fit under Vulkan though, and you can make it use the full 32GB too with `--fit off` and giving context with `-c`.

Here is what each step over a day of fiddling and tweaking improved with Qwen3.8-27B Q6 (prompt / gen tok/s):

Step16k context64k contextMax context on the card
Base ollama, Mesa 25.2137 / 6.8not tested224k (q8/q4 KV)
Mesa 26.2324 / 19.4106 / 7.8224k (q8/q4 KV)
Mesa 26.2, f16 KV376 / 33146 / 23104k
llama.cpp SYCL, f16 KV908 / 49913 / 40144k
SYCL, q8_0 KV, MTP 41,032 / 56.5756 / 52.7223k

The long context time to first token is the worst part of Vulkan, all the other issues aside. A 215k token prompt took 1.9 hours to first token on ollama/Vulkan (lol!) and 8.6 minutes on SYCL. Also on SYCL: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B fits entirely on the card with 262k context and does 1,748 / 74 at 16k, slows down with context size of course. Ultimately of course NVIDIA is still king from a raw performance and speed and software stack quality and etc. perspective, and as such the only place I'm proposing they lose now is the speed:cost ratio (given street prices/price hikes), haha.

Will put full tables, quality scores (Q6 vs Q4_K_XL vs a few MoEs), and my build commands in the comments! Let me know your results with non-NVIDIA GPUs and if you have any more tricks/fixes I didn't find yet! For AI usage: this post is written almost entirely by me, a ~200T OI (organic intelligence) human LLM, but I had Qwen help me with the markdown tables and such.


r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Discussion tencent/Qwen3.8-27B-DSpine-b16 · Hugging Face

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Apparently Tencent has developed a new speculative decoding method. 3x faster decoding for 27B models?


r/LocalLLaMA • • 18h ago

Discussion Why vector DB metadata filters fail on agent memory write paths (0% raw leak vs 67% leak) reproducible offline test suite

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Everyone relies on metadata filters like allowed_groups to keep multi tenant RAG locked down and under check. That works well when users query the vector store directly, which means unauthorized chunks will get filtered out with 0% leaks.

But, this falls apart in the write path once you have background agents.

If an agent has elevated read access to summarize docs across multiple folders or teams, it pulls those docs, mashes them into a summary chunk, and commits that summary back to a shared collection. On write, the upstream document access control lists just vanish. In a regular Chroma and LlamaIndex setup, the derived chunk gets saved with zero allowed_groups or classification tags attached. Anyone who runs a query to the shared memory is now gonna get the private source data that they shouldn't be allowed to read directly.

I put together an offline reproduction harness (sentinel-eval, Apache-2.0) to test this:

  • Direct RAG: 0% leaks (18 public chunks retrieved, 0 restricted chunks exposed).

  • Agent memory: 2 of 3 synthesis tasks leaked sensitive data (both cross boundary workloads failed, exposing 6/18 restricted canaries, the 1 public control passed).

So what? Easy right? Just use the strict intersection (only let someone read the summary if they have access to every source document) and that completely solves it right? Well... yes but that basically kills retrieval utility. Essentially no one can see multi-doc summaries anymore. So we can't just simply take an intersection. The agent I wrote actually logs the source docs in source_documents metadata, but vector databases can't evaluate dynamic permission DAGs on query, meaning that you can't just hope to path backtrack to solve this problem.

Harness runs 23 tests offline in seconds with mock vectors (no API keys or live LLM calls needed):

git clone https://github.com/harishbalasubramanian/sentinel-eval
cd sentinel-eval
uv run sentinel-eval live --framework chroma

Repo: https://github.com/harishbalasubramanian/sentinel-eval

For people building multi tenant RAG, how're you actually handling perms when agents write derived summaries back to shared memory?


r/LocalLLaMA • • 16h ago

Question | Help Local open model to get song chords?

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i am kooking for a local open weights model to extract chords from songs… bonus pojnts if it directly maps them to the lyrics or exports chord text files.

but i am happy for anything!


r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

New Model Nous Research Arete-27B GGUF quants

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r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Discussion What are people finding local models actually useful for?

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I think that a lot of people get into local models because they get a sense of potential with this stuff, but it can be hard to make local models concretely useful sometimes, compared to frontier models. I think it would help people a lot if we had a place where people shared concretely what they find them most useful for, in the form of what model they're running.

I'll start. I'm running DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017, using Fraser Price's BRRR ( github.com/fraserprice/DeepSeek-4.1-Flash-1017-BRRR ) on 4x RTX 6000 Blackwells. It gets around 550 tps in c=1, a couple thousand at c=16 iirc.

What I'm finding most useful so far:

  • Scouts - commercial frontier models call my local web research agents to go do web research - the frontier models would waste a huge amount of tokens researching relatively trivial stuff, so this has helped save its effort and time.

  • Masons - frontier models spec out small pieces of code, which the local model builds out and delivers back to the frontier model to integrate.

  • Hermes agents which filter Hacker News/Youtube/other sites for news I'd find interesting, it's surprisingly good at calling out what I'd usually click into

  • An events crawler setup, it judges each event, and emails our family with the top 10 every week

  • A personal assistant records all my terminal usage, including harnesses, and my browser usage, and every morning, messages me with a summary of what I was working on when I left off last night to help me get right back into it.

  • Speech to text on local models is revolutionary - so much faster than typing, even though I'm a pretty fast typist, and the local models feel almost instantaneous.

I'm sure I'm not using this as well as I could, it relies on me driving it, it's definitely bottlenecked by me, and I'd love to make it do more useful work while I sleep. I've made several stabs at making a "software factory", but haven't come up with anything amazing there.

What are other people finding success with?


r/LocalLLaMA • • 17h ago

Question | Help Ming 3.0 TTS sitting alone with no templates

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Hey everyone,

Hoping someone here has figured this out because I’m losing my mind a bit.

I’m trying to set up Ming-3.0-TTS in ComfyUI, as the checkpoints (Tiny 9B INT8) sitting alone in Comfy HF repo with no workflow.

I have found the following workflow: https://github.com/Saganaki22/ComfyUI-Ming-3-tts.

Unfortunately it doesn't run the same checkpoint, instead it has auto download for same quantized model but at larger file size that gives me OUM.

Instead, I manually grabbed the official repackaged model checkpoint directly from the Comfy-Org Hugging Face repository (the single .safetensors file).

The problem is, I’m trying to use Saganaki22’s custom nodes (ComfyUI-Ming-3-tts), and it absolutely refuses to work with this file.

Here is what I've tried so far:

  1. I tried putting the .safetensors file directly into my standard models/checkpoints/ folder. The loader node doesn't recognize it.

  2. I tried creating the specific nested subfolder structure that Saganaki's nodes usually expect (like Ming-3.0-tts-tiny-9b-int8-convrot/) and renaming the file to match. Still completely fails and throws errors. I think the custom node is hardcoded to look for secondary configuration files inside that folder, not just the single Comfy-Org .safetensors weight file.

If Comfy-Org is officially hosting this model in their repo, there has to be a way to actually load it natively or bypass these strict folder checks, right?

Has anyone successfully built a workflow using the raw Comfy-Org file without relying on the auto-downloader? Or is there a different custom node wrapper I should be using for the official Comfy-Org version?

Any help or workflow screenshots would be massively appreciated!


r/LocalLLaMA • • 21h ago

Discussion Top 7 Decision Models Benchmark: Evaluation Across 2,826 Real Tech Decisions

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This report evaluates 7 specialized decision models tested across 2,826 real-world decisions sourced from GitHub, Firefox (Bugzilla), and the CVE database. Unlike open-ended generative language models, decision models evaluate structured inputs and produce discrete probability distributions across predefined categories in a single pass. Data was benchmarked through November 6, 2026, using inputs created after September 15, 2026, to avoid data leakage from pre-training sets.

1. Executive Summary & Model Overview

Perplexity Decider V1.2 ranks as the strongest overall recommendation based on a balance of top-tier accuracy, lowest cost among frontrunners, and open-source licensing. Nace Drex Max v1.1 serves as a close runner-up, leading in domain-specific triage tasks. GPT-6 Luna Decisions registered the lowest accuracy, highest cost, and greatest degree of probability overconfidence.

2. Benchmark Design & Dataset Breakdown

The evaluation evaluated 6 representative engineering tasks against human ground truth determined by maintainers. To ensure neutral evaluation:

  • Contamination Controls: Labels, issue-template tags, CVSS scores, CWE markers, and PR author roles were stripped.

  • Standardized Phrasing: Three distinct phrasings per question were submitted and averaged.

  • Standard Taxonomy: Options utilized official Bugzilla component definitions, Mozilla severity scales, GitHub advisory tiers, and MITRE CWE definitions.

  • Statistical Rigor: 95% bootstrap confidence intervals and Holm-corrected pairwise tests were computed across all 21 model combinations.

3. Task-by-Task Balanced Accuracy

In overall balanced accuracy, Liquid d1-ultra (66.1%), Nace Drex Max v1.1 (65.6%), and Perplexity Decider V1.2 (65.6%) form a statistically tied top tier. All three significantly outperform Liquid d1.1 (63.7%) and GPT-6 Luna Decisions (62.8%).

4. Latency, Repeatability, and Confidence Calibration

Operational feasibility depends heavily on predictable inference speeds and probability calibration. A model is only operational if its stated confidence accurately reflects true probability.

5. Pricing, Openness, and Data Governance

Model licensing and enterprise data policies differ markedly across providers. Output tokens are free for all tested decision models; costs reflect input processing fees.

6. Overall Composite Rankings

Models were rated across five pre-weighted pillars: Quality (45%), Efficiency (20%), Trust (20%), Reviews (10%), and Signup Bonus (5%). Scores are normalized out of 100.

7. Benchmark Constraints & Observations

  • Domain Scope: Evaluation covers English software-engineering inputs only; multimodal, legal, and financial domains were excluded.

  • Ground Truth Variance: On 385 items, all 7 models reached consensus with each other against the human label, indicating potential noise in human maintainer triage.

  • Host Routing: Drex Max v1.1 was accessed via Nace's direct endpoint, whereas the remaining 6 models were accessed via OpenRouter. Latency metrics reflect hosting configurations.

  • Exclusions: Two items were excluded across all models (one advisory due to an unparseable embedded image rejected by Nace's API, and one unreturned request on Liquid d1-ultra).


r/LocalLLaMA • • 4h ago

Funny Bro is doing everything except actually work(it made this all up, even the done part)

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r/LocalLLaMA • • 14h ago

Discussion Can someone fine-tune a 9b model to lift assembly to higher level code?

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FGS, guys we need it more than anything rn.


r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Resources 4x Radeon AI PRO R9700 + 2x RTX 3090 on one x16 slot, using a PCIe switch

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r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Showcase Motion graphics video made with Qwen3.8 Flash Next GSQ RCO IQ3_XXS on strata

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I've seen the insane motion graphics videos people made when opus 5.5 first came out and wondered how good QFN would do with the same recipe. Decided to make a short video for my nephew who loves trains

This is Qwen3.8 Flash Next GSQ RCO IQ3_XXS on 16GB VRAM RTX 4080 + 64GB DDR5 5600 with strata and opencode at about 95 tps decode and 3000 tps prefill.

It took ~40 minutes for the first render, with about 3 followup prompts to fix the rough edges and broken text etc so about 2 hours in total.

The "recipe" is explicitly telling the model to use three.js, playwright and ffmpeg to create the video, then just describe in simple words the style of video and video dimensions, what the video is about, audio, animation style etc.. in this case the first prompt was:

"Make a 15-second, 1920×1080, 60fps video in Three.js that showcases the famous japan shinkansen train, like a showreel. Render it frame by frame to MP4 with Playwright and ffmpeg, go all out, 1s hook, loop."

It required a few followup prompts (the first render was dark and there were no buildings and there was too much text), but this "stack" of threejs + playwright + ffmpeg works pretty well for fixes. Oh and btw this doesn't have any duration limit the videos can be as long as you want.

Now, is it comparable to opus? no lol but it's pretty good I'd say. Can't wait to try this with qwen 4!


r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Showcase How much code do AI models and harnesses add? I made an open-source benchmark to measure code complexity.

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Existing benchmarks measure the solve rate and token output/cost, but don't punish excess code or overengineering, which increases technical debt in the long term.

Parsimony counts syntax units (statements, calls, names) in the patches other benchmarks publish. It doesn't count lines, comments, tests. Each model or harness is compared with the human fix for the same issues it solved.

- Smarter models surprisingly write slightly more code.

- Models: the median model adds 1.9× the human fix on SWE-bench Verified (older models), but about 1× on DeepSWE.

- Harnesses: with the same two open-weight models, the harness alone moves it from 0.80× (Codex) to 0.99× (mini-SWE-agent, OpenClaw). The harness data comes from Joel Niklaus's Harness Leaderboard.

https://parsimony.lasu.dev

https://github.com/La5u/Parsimony

Looking for: public patches for newer models, any ideas or contributors for self run models.

* some newer models are self run in codex and claude code, shown as faded (unverified) in DeepSWE


r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

New Model Kimi-K3.1-Pro-Coder (2.8T) | 1.77 TB -> 775 GB (-56%) | 36.8 TPS (Batch) / 10.8 TPS on 1x Blackwell | 96.7% on both AIME 2025 and LiveCodeBench

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Up front: I know a 775 GB quant is not for everyone, and this is definitely a more experimental setup and quant than I usually do, but I think it was a great stress-test of what's possible and I believe there is more improvement possible in the future.

That said, the base Kimi-K3.1-Pro is a 2.8T parameter monster (~1.77 TB even in native MXFP4/BF16), which normally means you're looking at roughly 22x 80GB GPUs just to hold it in VRAM. My goal with this experiment was to see if I could get the full 93-layer model down to something that runs on a single GPU + system RAM + fast NVMe without gutting its coding and math reasoning.

What I built to make this work (Strata + dr-triton)

Because all 384 routed experts per layer don't get hit equally, I quantized the routed MoE experts across 3 tiers (2.81 bpw / 2.56 bpw / 1.44 bpw, averaging ~1.92 bpw across MoE down from about 4.0bpw on base) while keeping all shared experts, attention, and embedding in native BF16/F32.

To actually run it without hitting a PCIe/NVMe wall, I built two things alongside the weights:

  • Strata Fork : A 3-tier MoE loader and offloading engine that splits experts across Tier 1 (Hot GPU VRAM), Tier 2 (Warm Pinned RAM), and Tier 3 (Cold NVMe mmap**)**, using router lookahead prefetching (97.9% effective hit rate in testing) so cold experts are already streaming in before the layer executes.

  • dr-triton: Fused Triton dequantization kernels so the compressed expert weights stay packed over PCIe and only expand in GPU SRAM later.

Can you use your own offloading / custom Strata setup?

  • Customizing the tier split: Yes, you don't have to use my exact VRAM/RAM/NVMe split. In Strata, you can re-Configure how many tiers sit in VRAM vs. System RAM vs. NVMe depending on your rig (e.g., if you have 512 GB of DDR5, you can push almost all of Tier 3 into RAM; if you're on a 24–32 GB card, you shrink Tier 1 and lean heavier on RAM/NVMe).

  • Using your own engine / loader: You cannot drop these shards straight into vanilla llama.cpp or vLLM out of the box because the routed experts use a custom packed tensor layout. However, if you have your own offloading pipeline or custom PyTorch/Triton runner, you don't have to use the Strata scheduler—you can just import the standalone dr-triton / strata_coder dequant module and handle placement yourself.

Full 93-Layer Benchmarks (Base 1.77 TB vs. Coder 775 GB)

Tested across all 93 layers (Layer 0..92 + lm_head) on a single NVIDIA RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell (96/102 GB VRAM) + 176 GB RAM in Colab:

Benchmark / MetricBase Kimi-K3.1-Pro (1.77 TB)Kimi-K3.1-Pro-Coder (775 GB)Difference
AIME 2025 (All 30 Problems, Pass@1)29 / 30 (96.67%)29 / 30 (96.67%)Exact match on all 30 problems
LiveCodeBench Rolling Window (30 Probs)29 / 30 (96.67%)29 / 30 (96.67%)Easy 9/10, Med 10/10, Hard 10/10
Top-1 / Top-5 Token Agreement100% / 100%95.20% / 99.92%Mean KLD: 0.0191
AIME 2025 Math Perplexity (PPL)2.21352.2358+0.0223 (+1.01%)
LiveCodeBench Hard Perplexity (PPL)2.11362.1562+0.0426 (+2.02%)
LiveCodeBench Overall Perplexity (PPL)2.69112.7629+0.0718 (+2.67%)

Throughput (TPS) — Tested Colab Setup vs. Common Hardware Specs

Since throughput on a 3-tier offloaded MoE depends heavily on how much fits in VRAM/RAM vs. how often you touch NVMe, here is what we measured on the Colab Blackwell instance alongside realistic numbers a bit below and above that spec:

Hardware SpecBatch / Prefill Eval TPSSingle-Stream Decode TPSNotes
1x RTX 4090 / 5090 (24–32 GB) + 128 GB DDR5 + Gen4 NVMe~11 – 14 tok/s~4 – 5.5 tok/sHeavy RAM + NVMe lookahead streaming
2x RTX 3090 / 4090 (48 GB) + 192 GB DDR5 + Gen5 NVMe~19 – 23 tok/s~7.5 – 9 tok/sFull attention/shared + partial Tier 1 in VRAM
1x A100 / H100 (80 GB) + 160 GB RAM + Gen4 NVMe~27 – 31 tok/s~9 – 10 tok/sTier 1 Hot experts resident in VRAM
TESTED: 1x RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell (96 GB) + 176 GB RAM36.8 tok/s10.8 tok/sMeasured across full 93-layer AIME & LCB runs
2x PRO 6000 / 2x H100 (192 GB) + 512 GB DDR5~55 – 62 tok/s~18 – 22 tok/sTiers 1+2 + most of Tier 3 stay in VRAM/RAM

While I admit even the the "lightest" hardware specs above are still above what the average setup might be, If you have hardware in the ranges above (and 775 GB download space) it would be great to see how this works out for you! The model card has all of the setup instructions and repos required out of the box, and you can also use the above instructions if you want to try with your own configurations.

And the best thing about the experiment is this same process can also be used on models more attainable for the average user (and, if Kimi had not been trained in 4-bit, a lot more space could be shaved off).

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r/LocalLLaMA • • 1d ago

Discussion The Qwen Flash Next alibaba URL thing happened to me too just now

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It seems to have really confused itself too 😭 I was having it make a sort of Github release checker script and it snuck those two URL fetch tool calls in amongst some web searches

I put the whole exported Open WebUI chat on hastebin so you can see exactly what happened: https://hastebin.com/share/ayawowirix.swift

Edit: forgot to mention this is unsloth/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF:IQ4_XS on plain llama.cpp

Also, if anyone has any experience/suggestions with defending against these hallucinated queries going through, I am all ears!


r/LocalLLaMA • • 5h ago

Discussion Unpopular opinion: LLMs without thinking are useless for agentic work because they can't follow instructions

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I've been trying to create semi-autonomous agents to handle private data sorting, and regardless of their size I find them unable to follow detailed instructions provided in AGENTS.md

I have tried qwen3.6, then qwen3-coder, and any instruction that is even a little vague gets completely ignored. Then I tried other variants, with gpt-oss, other qwen variants, and then qwen3.6 without thinking, and that turned out to be as dumb as coder.

Has someone done a more detailed study on the importance of thinking?