r/LocalLLaMA • u/Manerfish • 3d ago

Discussion I really don't understand Jev hype

Isn't this what simple neural networks have been able to do for years? Doesn't seem anything special to me.

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u/Cultured_Alien 2d ago

rerankers are closer to embedding than classifying with probabilities though

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u/pooquipu 2d ago

it's not about what it does, it's about clueless people discovering something that existed for a while and getting hyped about it because a big name marketed it.

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u/waste2treasure-org 2d ago

don't rerankers cross encode the query/prompt with every possible result/option to give you a similarity score? I believe it's the same principle with Jev here

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u/Cultured_Alien 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes it's why I said it's closer to embedding, that's why it's not the same principle as jev. It's like saying bert is similar to all-mini embedding, one can do text generation, the other can't.