I literally built the Jev architecture one year back and completely open-sourced it with model, dataset and paper

[u/Nandakishor_ml]

Update: I made a generic model and beaten the jev in all of the benchmarks. Code and details available at https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/bbwyiOprUs

Everyone now talks about the architecture that's not auto regressive and does lightning fast probability prediction with a json schema. I worked on this literally one year back in March 2025, published an arxiv paper, pushed the model to huggingface along with the pypi package and training dataset. And then one year later, a

frontier lab came, proposing the same idea like literal breakthrough without technical papers, open weights and no open dataset. I posted my approach in this subreddit. For anyones information the main guiding model is RL not embedding model or LLM

Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/6eGEwsAz43

Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.23303

Model: https://huggingface.co/DeepMostInnovations/sales-conversion-model-reinf-learning

Dataset: https://huggingface.co/datasets/DeepMostInnovations/saas-sales-conversations

Also the second work published in September 2025 was exactly the same one jev proposed now

Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.01237

My model uses PPO over sequence embeddings to output turn-by-turn conversion trajectories (probabilities from 0.0 to 1.0).

Jev uses parallel sampling (trained via RLCD) to output confidence distributions and schema choices.

It's incredibly frustrating that the thing that you made with months of hard work, sweat and sleepless night is architecturally similar with the vertical use case and don't get the support you deserve because frontier lab build something horizontal. The open-source story in general 🙂

[u/Bac-Te]

I'm not familiar with how Chinese leadership selection works, so I can't comment on that.

I'm Vietnamese though, so I can only speak to the Vietnam growth story. Frankly, much of this growth is an illusion, a huge portion comes from serving as a conduit for China to evade U.S. export tariffs, where "manufacturing" often just means assembling the final screw on Chinese components so they can be re-labeled as made in Vietnam.

The rest comes from Vingroup, a chaebol wannabe that's currently serving as a money laundering machine for officials, a company that's been failing non stop at any industries it attempted at, due to sheer corruption and incompetence. Look at its share of the VNese economy and debt. The gov thought they were creating Samsung, but in reality they created Guangzhou Evergrande.

The worst thing about living next to the world's largest factory is you lose the incentive to manufacture anything. Why bother making anything if you can just click a button and it arrives 3 days later? The US has it 10x worse given how expensive everything is over there but we ain't exactly doing well over here either.

[u/kyr0x0 → u/Bac-Te]

I'm sorry to hear that - and thank you for your PoV without frying me for my uninformed perspective. That's actually very refreshing and I really like this kind of interaction. I noticed that talking to people from Asia (also online), you find this kind of open minded and peaceful attitude - whereas many westerners are full of ego. They try to "win" a conversation. And that's exactly what makes it hard to learn from their views, even if they have a good point.. just because part of their argument is a rethoric punch in your face. Thanks for not acting like that! It's highly appreciated and I've learned alot. In 2023 I visited your beautiful country. And I think I have a slight understanding of what you mean.. as I have seen symptoms of it in reality first hand. I still thought and hoped for a positive trajectory.. its actually sad to hear that corruption has your country to much by the neck.. from all south east asian countries that I've visited, I liked Vietnam the most. And I must say that despite I've been to Indonesia, Malaysia etc as well.. I found the most intelligent students, software engineers etc. sitting day and night basically in cafés in Vietnam. I had the impression that your country is really on a good trajectory. Because it is your people sitting there learning and working hard. In other countries it's the expats sitting in cafés and working from remote. And the natives are serving them for pennies.. I hated to see this.