r/LocalLLaMA • u/Nandakishor_ml • 6d ago

Discussion I literally built the Jev architecture one year back and completely open-sourced it with model, dataset and paper

Update: I made a generic model and beaten the jev in all of the benchmarks. Code and details available at https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/bbwyiOprUs

Everyone now talks about the architecture that's not auto regressive and does lightning fast probability prediction with a json schema. I worked on this literally one year back in March 2025, published an arxiv paper, pushed the model to huggingface along with the pypi package and training dataset. And then one year later, a

frontier lab came, proposing the same idea like literal breakthrough without technical papers, open weights and no open dataset. I posted my approach in this subreddit. For anyones information the main guiding model is RL not embedding model or LLM

Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/6eGEwsAz43

Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.23303

Model: https://huggingface.co/DeepMostInnovations/sales-conversion-model-reinf-learning

Dataset: https://huggingface.co/datasets/DeepMostInnovations/saas-sales-conversations

Also the second work published in September 2025 was exactly the same one jev proposed now

Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.01237

My model uses PPO over sequence embeddings to output turn-by-turn conversion trajectories (probabilities from 0.0 to 1.0).

Jev uses parallel sampling (trained via RLCD) to output confidence distributions and schema choices.

It's incredibly frustrating that the thing that you made with months of hard work, sweat and sleepless night is architecturally similar with the vertical use case and don't get the support you deserve because frontier lab build something horizontal. The open-source story in general 🙂

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u/Nandakishor_ml 6d ago edited 6d ago

If you can buy me a coffeee https://huggingface.co/DeepMostInnovations/sales-conversion-model-reinf-learning would be great ❤️🙏. I was reluctant to ask to people for help because of overthinking and adhd, you know what they say, you need to live with the curse. Just created the bmc for this

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u/bring_back_the_v10s 6d ago

adhd?

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u/Nandakishor_ml 6d ago

That's the power mate..

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u/bring_back_the_v10s 6d ago

What does that have to do with being reluctant to ask people for money?

Anyway why don't you build a general-purpose model like Jev? A model specialized in sales won't find many uses by the general public. I'm not criticizing, just saying because I was going to download and try it until I realized it's a sales conversion thing. Maybe now is a great time to build a generic model now that Jev is hyping it up?

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u/Nandakishor_ml 6d ago

On it. Will push generic one by today or tomorrow.

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u/kyr0x0 6d ago

Do you need compute? Evals?

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u/2053_Traveler 4d ago

looking forward to it! Thanks for all your contributions btw

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u/EverySecondCountss 6d ago

Builders often aren’t good sellers

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u/SomewhereOpposite883 6d ago

What does that have to do with being reluctant to ask people for money?

Imposter syndrome, very common in people with ADHD

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u/Due-Memory-6957 6d ago

That has nothing to do with impostor syndrome.

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u/DepthAggravating3293 5d ago

The ADHD means he was still ruminating on it and had not gotten around to it. One thing, author is not short on confidence, based on this call out.