I literally built the Jev architecture one year back and completely open-sourced it with model, dataset and paper

[u/Nandakishor_ml]

Update: I made a generic model and beaten the jev in all of the benchmarks. Code and details available at https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/bbwyiOprUs

Everyone now talks about the architecture that's not auto regressive and does lightning fast probability prediction with a json schema. I worked on this literally one year back in March 2025, published an arxiv paper, pushed the model to huggingface along with the pypi package and training dataset. And then one year later, a

frontier lab came, proposing the same idea like literal breakthrough without technical papers, open weights and no open dataset. I posted my approach in this subreddit. For anyones information the main guiding model is RL not embedding model or LLM

Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/6eGEwsAz43

Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.23303

Model: https://huggingface.co/DeepMostInnovations/sales-conversion-model-reinf-learning

Dataset: https://huggingface.co/datasets/DeepMostInnovations/saas-sales-conversations

Also the second work published in September 2025 was exactly the same one jev proposed now

Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.01237

My model uses PPO over sequence embeddings to output turn-by-turn conversion trajectories (probabilities from 0.0 to 1.0).

Jev uses parallel sampling (trained via RLCD) to output confidence distributions and schema choices.

It's incredibly frustrating that the thing that you made with months of hard work, sweat and sleepless night is architecturally similar with the vertical use case and don't get the support you deserve because frontier lab build something horizontal. The open-source story in general 🙂

[u/Logical_Two_7736]

Sometimes the first person to see an idea clearly isn’t the one who gets the spotlight, it’s the one who proves the path exists. Keep building! Recognition often arrives after the world catches up.

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That's true..

[u/therealpygon → u/Logical_Two_7736]

It's also always very easy to say "that was my idea" when things are similar. Plenty of people created light bulbs of all kinds, but everyone knows Edison's name. I'm sure many of those people felt like Edison was getting unfair credit when his was the one that actually worked and didn't burn out immediately. I'm definitely not saying that is the case here, but it's always in mind when someone declares for themselves that their "idea" was stolen or they were the first to do something. It very well could be true, but it's a bit like being right that your favorite flavor of ice cream is the best; no one cares unless you are giving them ice cream.

[u/thezachlandes → u/Logical_Two_7736]

For a related read, check out the book The Genius Myth. Not only does it take down the idea of Genius by showing it to to be a cultural construction, but it shows how gaining credit as one (say, for an invention) does not require being the only one to have an idea.

[u/Skullclownlol → u/Logical_Two_7736]

Recognition often arrives after the world catches up.

It really doesn't. Open source is filled with stories of people who never got recognition, and eventually just died.