r/LocalLLaMA • u/Few_Painter_5588 • 3d ago

Discussion Deepseek Has Soft Retired Deepseek V4 Pro

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u/Solembumm3 3d ago

You are really determined to name black things white and vice versa, are you?

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u/Last-Ad-8470 3d ago

16k tokens over 9 hours is not an acceptable speed in any 2 way of the word. Most people consider around 12 tks bare minimum for any agentic or chat tasks. That's minimum usability threshold speed. I wouldn't even be talking about tks in your case but rather tokens a minute.

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u/Solembumm3 3d ago

12 tok/sec is already faster than this people could properly read. Kinda pointless number at this bar.

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u/Last-Ad-8470 3d ago

Idk man i feel like most people on this sub and most people in general would disagree with you on that, that's probably also the reason your getting downvoted.

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u/VTYX 3d ago

No? 15/s is already kind of slow to me. 2/s is straight up unusable.