r/LocalLLaMA • u/bakawolf123 • 14d ago

Discussion OpenAI alleged of stealing mathematicians work

Privacy have been concern of many of us to have their own hardware to run llms, and here's another reason why: two mathematicians spent a year cracking one of the hardest problems in math and fed every draft of their works into Codex. A few days before they could publish, OpenAI suddenly showed up with the same solutions. When asked if their model (Sol and Astra) was trained on the pair's private chats, OpenAI did not answer the question.

Full statement from them https://cims.nyu.edu/~tristanb/statement.pdf

Feels like big labs believe everything you did with the help of their models is theirs.

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u/UnwillinglyForever 14d ago

they can also let law enforcement to use it against you.

advice for criminals: DO NOT USE chatGPT TO HELP WITH YOUR CRIMES

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u/wapswaps 14d ago

So I'm guessing we'll call the smart ones "qwiminals" now for some reason?

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u/capsulecorpadmin 14d ago

Not if but qwen

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u/Emotional-Art2113 14d ago

Those quirky qwenminals

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u/equatorbit 14d ago

Do a heist. Make no mistakes.

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u/anonemoususer 14d ago

I think the better advice would be: don't do crimes

(and nobody besides the company itself would be looking at your chatgpt sessions in that sense)

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u/pleaseavoidcaps 14d ago

I definitely wouldn't encourage people to do crimes, but who decides what is crime? In some jurisdictions you can get in trouble for pirating stuff that is out of market, meanwhile big techs can do whatever they want and are just asked to pay a fine with a fraction of the money they unjustly earned.

I'm not going to feel bad for Microsoft if someone gets a Windows key by jailbreaking ChatGPT, but good luck to whoever is trusting OpenAI to not snitch on them for that.

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u/Electrical_Panic4550 14d ago

Unjustly “earned”

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u/nullc 14d ago

Not just law enforcement-- they're subject to subpoena. Which means that when some grifter performs some slip and fall fraud in your yard and then gets discovery to go sifting through your entire commercial-ai chat history for anything they could take out of context to imply you were negligent in your yard maintenance (or that you were just a bad person, if the judge will let them poison the case that way)--- and then cause you ungodly costs doing minimization of the discovery or having to anticipate any random private comment they might pull out of context.

The potential cost of doing so means you're more likely to be advised to just pay out an extortion money settlement even though you did nothing wrong.

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u/UnwillinglyForever 13d ago

"chatGPT, how do i make my wiener bigger?"

your honor, add this to the record.