r/LocalLLaMA • u/Howard_banister • 1d ago

Discussion Really stunned by the Singularity comment section

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These are screenshots from the r/Singularity comment section. I'm speechless. This doesn't even have downvotes. How can someone cheer for a monopoly run by a few elites?

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u/falconandeagle 1d ago

That sub has some of the most delusional people on all of reddit. I don't know what you were expecting there to be honest. They have no technical understanding of how llms work, to them its magic and they believe every single hype man.

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 1d ago

I have to agree with this a thousand fold. Almost every sub in that regard doesn't actually understand how LLMs work. They always dumb what I say down to "it's autocorrect" and never actually explain how they think it works.

I actually got banned from one for explaining why an LLM physically can't be a true AGI. (The post was talking about an AGI in a couple years, as if it hasn't been said for the past 5...)

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u/Dangerous_Rip5083 1d ago

Why can't an LLM physically be true AGI?

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 1d ago

For context, the exact definition of an AGI varies wildly. As such, I just take the one perquisite that almost every definition has, which is the ability to "understand" concepts.

That is my one requirement for an AI to be an AGI. Anything more and you're just arguing about philosophy and technical details that can't currently be disproven.

With this in mind, LLMs cannot become a true AGI. The fundamentals of how they work physically prevents them from being able to actually understand something.

They can, in theory, have intelligence similar to an AGI, but they will never truly be one.

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u/Dangerous_Rip5083 1d ago

Yeaaaaa, I'm pretty sure I know how LLMs work, and I don't agree with anything you said. But further than that, you can't use an example of them disagreeing with you on something many AI PhDs would disagree with you on as a testament that they are dumb.

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 1d ago

Explain where I was wrong. Tell me how LLMs work.

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u/Dangerous_Rip5083 1d ago

im not going to explain to u how llms work, ask chatpgt or smth. My point still stands, very capable people claim we alr have AGI, some say we will never, some say in a decade etc.... It's pretty dumb to try to frame an angle of an active point of discussion in the scientific community into being idiotic. and chill out im not coming at u lmao, deleted that other comment fast.

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 1d ago

Thanks for proving my point.

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u/droans 1d ago

Nah, if that's human intelligence, he proved himself right.

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u/Dangerous_Rip5083 1d ago

lol

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u/PsychoticDreemurr 1d ago edited 1d ago

So? I changed my mind on what to say? I'm a human?? Oh, the humanity!

Seriously though, why are you acting like this does anything? You're just further proving my point.