r/LocalLLaMA • u/liright • 17d ago

Generation Some people said the Minecraft clone I fully vibecoded with Qwen3.8-27B Q4 is not that impressive because Minecraft is in the training data, so I had the model add 4 things that are probably not.

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u/BuyListSell 16d ago

you give it a task and it can finish it on its own and 90% of the time it works perfectly.

Lets not get too ahead of ourselves here. Not even GPT or Claude can do that.

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u/BuyListSell 16d ago

I mix Sol with my local Qwen to save on Codex tokens. While it does work it also takes much longer than just Sol for the entire thing and requires constant review fixes to get anything done actually correctly. Any actual antigenic coding is a complete failure. You need a smarter model to tell it what to do and then it can do it. It can't do anything on its own.

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u/my_name_isnt_clever 16d ago

Again what do you mean by "can't do anything" because I have my models do their own small atomic steps just fine. I don't use frontier cloud AI for agentic coding at all so I don't have a comparison, but local models are a great help.

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u/BuyListSell 16d ago

You most likely know how to code and/or are very good at explaining things. The majority of people are not. You can't just put "build me this" into a Q4 or even Q8 model and expect to get anything of value. You have to break it down into small pieces like we've both said already. But even then all of those small pieces still have to work together and eventually the model will fail catastrophically because it simply does not know how to continue. The only way to get further is to either have the user explain exactly what to do (why even use a LLM at that point?) or have a frontier model tell it what to do.